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    ����. Give your boy Langford a fair look before making statements how you prefer this or that collegiate player over him. Low hanging fruit is sometimes poisonous……. In all fairness I like the UCLA kid, the question should be to either draft him or pay Lonnie JS!

    If you're a fan of Langford, we're just going to wind up spitting at each other and I don't want to bother doing that. I'm not. This time of year I'm always looking for bargains and diamonds in the rough - not just franchise guys at the top of the draft. I called for the Spurs to throw a second round pick at Kenyon Martin Jr., and to sign undrafted free agent Caleb Martin. Those are the kind of guys who keep you in games when the starters are on the bench. All I'm saying is that Juzang would be a value pick in the mid-second round. I don't know that he would ever be a starter, but I don't think of Langford as ever being a starter.

    I did exaggerate. I said Juzang would be 1/10th the salary of Langford, but he would really be about 1/6th. Still, you can't look at second tier guys (especially) in a vacuum, without considering the cap space they eat up. So, yeah, I would rather see rookie Juzang hold a roster spot next season on a min contract vs. Langford at $5.6 M, just on the basis of his 3P stroke and energy. He's a bargain play in the second round, and there's still the possibility of him having a lot more upside.

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    If the Spurs want to move into the top 4 its going to require one of Primo, Keldon or Vassel. Cant imagine any team picking the top 4 would have much interest in acquiring Jak or Richardson for that matter with only one year left on their deals. The Raps and Celtics picks wont move the needle much either.
    I’d move Vassell.

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    I haven't seen much, but is Keegan Murray even significantly better than Keldon Johnson? He doesn't look like a legit 6-8 to me in the brief stuff I've seen
    Hes legit and his offensive game is a little more polished. His jumper is quicker and better as well. Murray has poor mans McDyess vibes

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    I’d move Vassell.
    Vassell is a future allstar. I am pretty confident on that when all things considering.

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    Vassell is a future allstar. I am pretty confident on that when all things considering.
    Bold take

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    Vassell is a future allstar. I am pretty confident on that when all things considering.
    I like Vassell and I agree that he could be a future AS, hence my avatar. But for a shot of a potential tier 1 (top 4 pick), nobody is untouchable. I think Pop would pack his suitcase and drive him to the airport himself, especially for Chet.

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    No one is trading out of the top 4.
    Probably true and if Keegan Murray continues his accession nobody will trade out of the top 5.

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    My guess is the Spurs will hope for lottery luck, but will prefer one of their young picks plus whoever is available at 7/8 over trading for a top 4.

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    Some good stuff right here.

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    Again, these are just mocks but it appears now that Dyson Daniels is firming as a lottery talent (and considered the best Ignite prospect from that team), as we get closer to the draft.

    “Shades of Derrick White” - no wonder I like him.

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    Dyson Daniels is a guy I'm interested in but will probably be gone by the end of the lottery. There are so many question marks throughout this draft. Doesn't look like a good one overall.

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    Nothing against Daniels specifically, but I'm tired of combo guards or wings who range from non to mediocre shooters and lack a specific physical attribute that prevents them from being switchable (for him it's strength).

    If they're going to pick a shaky to non shooter, at least have it be something different like Sochan.

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    Dyson Daniels is a guy I'm interested in but will probably be gone by the end of the lottery. There are so many question marks throughout this draft. Doesn't look like a good one overall.
    I'm actually seeing shades of the 2020 draft here, which was considered a weak draft overall but actually contained considerable depth.

    You've got two athletic wings from the same school with one coming off the bench, the other starting, where they likely get drafted in opposite order (2020 Devin Vassell, Patrick Williams - 2022 Jeremy Sochan, Kendall Brown), the Enigmatic Big Man (Jalen Duren - James Wiseman), the combo guard from Kentucky (TyTy Washington - Tyrese Maxey), the Senior shooter that slips (Desmond Bane - Ochai Agbaji) etc.

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    I'm actually seeing shades of the 2020 draft here, which was considered a weak draft overall but actually contained considerable depth.

    You've got two athletic wings from the same school with one coming off the bench, the other starting, where they likely get drafted in opposite order (2020 Devin Vassell, Patrick Williams - 2022 Jeremy Sochan, Kendall Brown), the Enigmatic Big Man (Jalen Duren - James Wiseman), the combo guard from Kentucky (TyTy Washington - Tyrese Maxey), the Senior shooter that slips (Desmond Bane - Ochai Agbaji) etc.
    I definitely think there will be gems, absolutely. But there's a lot of dross, even more than usual. Fortunately Jalen Duren looks much better than James Wiseman, but I'm baffled by a player like TyTy Washington. How is he even in the conversation for a top 10 pick? Ochai Agbaji is really old. Kendall Brown reminds me of Greg Brown from last year, pretty much only an athlete. Last year it seemed like potential was rolling into the 2nd round. This year not even the top picks seem close to sure things and there's even a heavy drop-off after them. AJ Griffin is a great shooter but lead-footed and can't dribble. Johnny Davis is small and has no real three-ball. There are so many question marks.

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    Really hope the Spurs can get in the top 8. I think there is a significant drop off in talent and upside potential after Chet, Jabari, Banchero, Ivey, Murray, Griffin, Sharpe, Duren.

    Any of these for the Spurs would increase their talent/upside level considerably and allow them to make other roster moves to balance out the team if needed.

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    I can see Duren in the top five or six very easily. He may not be consistent yet, but he's already a physical marvel with a lot of skills and he'd be the youngest guy in the draft. definitely top ten but probably much better.

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    Well, looks like the Keegan Murray watch in the NCAA tournament has been truncated by the Richmond Spiders.

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    Well, looks like the Keegan Murray watch in the NCAA tournament has been truncated by the Richmond Spiders.
    Big 10 gonna Big 10… lol

    Looks like Gonzaga and Chet are also in a dog fight against a smaller school.

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    Well, looks like the Keegan Murray watch in the NCAA tournament has been truncated by the Richmond Spiders.

    That will hurt his stock imo tough he did not have a bad game.

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    That will hurt his stock imo tough he did not have a bad game.
    Looking at the bright side, Keegan Murray is old enough that he can probably put all of this in perspective.

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    Iowa couldn't figure out the Spider defense at all. The chance for Murray to raise his stock with a deep run is gone. I figure he'll settle around the 7-10 range, but who knows.

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    Chet is also wetting the bed right now

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    Both Holmgren and Murray look like complementary players to me. Holmgren is a glue guy on defense, somewhat on offense, and not a guy to start sets or necessarily to get his shot. Murray seems like a third option or maybe even a bench option. I'm not sure he can get points by himself alone in the league but in a right situation will be a problem.

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    Chet is also wetting the bed right now
    No sabe, no creo.

    No ing way.

    Chet Holmgren is a bleeping stud.

    (As are Jabari Smith and Paolo B.)

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    If Gonzaga get through this game they’ll play Memphis. Chet and Duren going at it would be good to see.

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