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    Or, Richardson is being showcased for contenders, and he’s intentionally sabotaging winning by force feeding Lonnie.
    You often live in your own reality

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    Or, Richardson is being showcased for contenders, and he’s intentionally sabotaging winning by force feeding Lonnie.
    I don't think established veterans ever have to be 'showcased.' Teams know who these players are.

    My guess is they are still in the trenches of developing Lonnie. Now that they have him scoring consistently and being aggressive and no longer thinking about that side of the court as much, they may want to get him more screwed in defensively. It's not a matter of swallowing the game whole, but in breaking it down into increments for him.

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    Or, Richardson is being showcased for contenders, and he’s intentionally sabotaging winning by force feeding Lonnie.
    You keep repeating this take and its just stupid. Pop is not intentionally tanking, or stealth tanking, or any other kind of tanking. He's giving the young guys an opportunity to make it into the play in while still trying to coach them up.

    They are 8 - 11 since the start of Feb which is obviously not great but definitely not some sabotage run that you seem to be implying.

    I don't know why y'all are so hung up on looking at wins or losses as if either is going to give you some key to the final record that the other doesn't. Just look at the remaining games and the likelyhood of the Spurs winning each one and you'll see where this team is going to end up. 8th is the likeliest individual outcome, but that doesn't mean that tat its more likely than a combination of other outcomes. In other words, is it more likely that the Spurs improve from 8th, or stay at 8th? Probably improve. So while 9th and 10th might have lower percentages than 8th individually, combined its probably more because the margin between these places is so small.

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    I will say this, Pop isn't going all out to win. Yet. He's still playing Tre Jones and Primo quite a bit and while one could argue that the Spurs don't really have any other options, he could shorten the bench and ride his better players more. Maybe that's in play more if they move into the 10th position. I do think that would be in play if they make the play in game.

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    Looked like a Cleveland loss and a Toronto win. Both games to OT, and both Denver and Toronto blew it. Portland tanked out a loss under Brooklyn. That Toronto pick is looking like a pipe dream right about now.

    A perfect night for the Spurs turned upside down. At least the Spurs aren't going to overcome a 36 point deficit in the 4th. Maybe Pop will have enough sense to let go and not risk injury to DJ and Keldon.

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    And the tank rolls on

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    Looked like a Cleveland loss and a Toronto win. Both games to OT, and both Denver and Toronto blew it. Portland tanked out a loss under Brooklyn. That Toronto pick is looking like a pipe dream right about now.

    A perfect night for the Spurs turned upside down. At least the Spurs aren't going to overcome a 36 point deficit in the 4th. Maybe Pop will have enough sense to let go and not risk injury to DJ and Keldon.
    Toronto is on the plus side of the play-in, aren't they? Even if they couldn't beat Brooklyn (if thing stayed the way they are), they have a second game against the winner of Atlanta/Charlotte to make the playoffs.

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    It sucks we got to play Portland 3 times as man oh man they seriously trying to get in the top 5

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    You keep repeating this take and its just stupid. Pop is not intentionally tanking, or stealth tanking, or any other kind of tanking.
    I will say this, Pop isn't going all out to win.

    Uh....

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    lol

    What i'm saying is that Pop isn't valuing winning at the expense of everything else. He's trying to develop players even if it hurts the team now. That, IMO, is not like tanking. Tanking means you're actively trying to lose. If you want to say that this is stealth tanking, then OK, I don't really agree but I can't say that Pop is going all out.

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    Pop isn’t trying to win games right now……..

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    Pop isn’t trying to win games right now……..
    why would he?

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    I will say this, Pop isn't going all out to win. Yet. He's still playing Tre Jones and Primo quite a bit and while one could argue that the Spurs don't really have any other options, he could shorten the bench and ride his better players more. Maybe that's in play more if they move into the 10th position. I do think that would be in play if they make the play in game.
    lol

    What i'm saying is that Pop isn't valuing winning at the expense of everything else. He's trying to develop players even if it hurts the team now. That, IMO, is not like tanking. Tanking means you're actively trying to lose. If you want to say that this is stealth tanking, then OK, I don't really agree but I can't say that Pop is going all out.
    Pop isn’t trying to win games right now……..
    Hot takes.

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    It’s probably already been posted several times but a big difference in top-4 pick odds between 7th and 8th worst records.

    San Antonio has a 31% odds of getting a top 4 pick at the 7 slot, and drops down to 20% if they rise to 8th.

    Somehow gotta prevent any of Portland, Indiana, or Sacramento from falling behind the Spurs in the draft slot.
    Coach has to do what he must

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    It’s probably already been posted several times but a big difference in top-4 pick odds between 7th and 8th worst records.

    San Antonio has a 31% odds of getting a top 4 pick at the 7 slot, and drops down to 20% if they rise to 8th.

    Somehow gotta prevent any of Portland, Indiana, or Sacramento from falling behind the Spurs in the draft slot.
    Coach has to do what he must
    #7 32%
    #8 26.3%
    #9 20.3%

    The last two years, our odds were 8%. and 8.5%

    Per Tankathon.

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    It sucks we got to play Portland 3 times as man oh man they seriously trying to get in the top 5
    We shall see because Portlands remaining schedule has got to be one of if not the most # of sub .500 team opponents remaining of all.

    Some of these lottery fight games might be, make that will be real laughers.

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    Portlands next two games are Indy and Detroit, two teams tanking for position.

    I’m actually OK with #8, and that’s a fairly firm position. Losses are everything. NO, who s vying for the play in, are 3 losses behind us. NY, Wash, and LA are all 4 losses behind us, and there are only 11 games left for us, and close to the for everyone else.

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    Portlands next two games are Indy and Detroit, two teams tanking for position.

    I’m actually OK with #8, and that’s a fairly firm position. Losses are everything. NO, who s vying for the play in, are 3 losses behind us. NY, Wash, and LA are all 4 losses behind us, and there are only 11 games left for us, and close to the for everyone else.
    Detroit does not appear to be tanking.
    John B lives in Detroit IIRC and he's kept an eye on. Sure enough they've been giving full effort. Indeed they pounded Orlando in the would-be tank vs tanker and are about 5-5 their last 10. Go figure.
    I dunno.

    Feel free to add to the Tank thread, I'd love more input.

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    Uh….yeah I know. Didn’t think it needed to be stated for the 1000th time but here we are��

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    Uh….yeah I know. Didn’t think it needed to be stated for the 1000th time but here we are��
    It does.
    When he lost with these two Chosen Ones etc post Tim and Kawhi (Zaza) the Sniffers still gave and give a full salute to Pop and his strategies.
    Now that he continues to lose after reaching the Longevity record (cough cough) he is some sort of player development genius who is currently losing in stealth mode per Snifferese.

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    Hopefully we can milk Lonnie back injury for the remaining games which will leave us with maybe getting one more win if he is out the season

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    Hopefully we can milk Lonnie back injury for the remaining games which will leave us with maybe getting one more win if he is out the season
    It would be really hard to go 1-10 with 3 games left with Portland.

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