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    Either of you catch the super obvious out of bounds off North Carolina guy who dribbled it off himself?....
    No challenge by Baylor.
    Super key possession either end of reg or end of OT can't remember, but Baylor would get ball back down 3 or 2 (def chance to win or tie).
    I heard announcer point it out. Did not hear, is this one of those super lame *cannot challenge* rules?
    It had to be under 2:00 for them to be able to challenge it and the play happened at the 2:02 mark I think

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    Sochan with our 1st pick would be pretty depressing tbh as he projects as nothing more than a role-player at the next level. But our choices may be limited since it doesn’t look like we’ll be selecting any higher than 8th and could drop to 9 or 10.
    I think with respect that it's a bold statement. Sochan could be the pick if the spurs are something like 10-11, i don't see them going too high with him but in this range 9-11 with his youth, versatility, body ( 6'9 230 lbs 7'0 wingspan) he could be a very good pick imo. Lot of uspide.

    Sochan is a beast on defense, has a foreign pedigree, and is already used to having to live in Texas.
    Agree and we are not alone


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    Sochan wants to be Dennis Rodman the way he plays kinda dirty and likes to get under people’s skin. He was definitely pissing everyone off that game and was even trending on Twitter for it. He even trips people like Rodman used to . Even his hair looks like Rodman’s. He was definitely public enemy #1 today but I kinda dig it tbh

    That 2nd half was legit one of the worst officiated halves of basketball I’ve ever seen though tbh.

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    Sochan doesn't seem like a head off the court. Actually seems like a sweet guy. His mom's Polish and he grew up in the UK. There's a video of his family coming to visit him in Waco for the first time.

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    And, yes, the officiating in the UNC was atrocious. That call on the flopped three by the Carolina guard was one of those pivotal terrible calls.

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    I think with respect that it's a bold statement. Sochan could be the pick if the spurs are something like 10-11, i don't see them going too high with him but in this range 9-11 with his youth, versatility, body ( 6'9 230 lbs 7'0 wingspan) he could be a very good pick imo. Lot of uspide.



    Agree and we are not alone

    I agree, and he can guard multiple positions and he's a dog. He has massive potential and he's going to turn 19 a month before the draft. He might not do all the flashy things but he for sure looks like a game changer, could be a Draymond type of player but even bigger and stronger with the same speed on the perimeter if not better imo. He has legit 2 way player potential and I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs have their eye on him.

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    , I wouldn't bat an eye if the Spurs selected him with their first pick.

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    I like Sochan too��. I love defense and he give effort unlike his teammate brown!

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    The only thing I don't like is he is not a shot blocker but he is a very good defender keeping his feet moving and understanding angles and schemes. It just depends on what the Spurs think and off course where we draft will determine a lot will see who keeps moving up in the mock drafts as March madness continues

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    Either of you catch the super obvious out of bounds off North Carolina guy who dribbled it off himself?....
    No challenge by Baylor.
    Super key possession either end of reg or end of OT can't remember, but Baylor would get ball back down 3 or 2 (def chance to win or tie).
    I heard announcer point it out. Did not hear, is this one of those super lame *cannot challenge* rules?
    I didn’t start watching until 2 mins before the ejection. I don’t know if they used their one challenge before that. The out of bounds play happened at the 2:02 mark so the refs couldn’t look. NCAA refs are the worst. College sports is such a gross industry, I generally only watch March madness to look at Spurs prospects. Every time I do, the refs make NBA refs look so so much better.

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    Is there anyway we can put the mind of Memphis’s Tyler Harris in Lonnie Walker’s body?

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    I don't think Duren is as tall as he's listed.

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    I don't think Duren is as tall as he's listed.
    Yeah I’ve wondered about that too.

    A weird thing I’d like to know is what is his hand size?
    There were multiple plays to start the game where he could have dunked with his left
    but kept forcing the ball to his right hand where he was stuffed at the ring by Chet.

    Combine measurements could play a huge role for some of these guys.

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    I don't think Duren is as tall as he's listed.
    Yeah he’s been touted as a 6’11 guy mostly but during this season a few scout/analysts have said he looks closer to 6’9. My guess is that the combine measurements will reveal he’s about 6’9 without shoes which would make him 6’10 in the old NBA height. Apparently his wingspan is 7’5 so he should have a good standing reach.

    I don’t think he’ll have a problem playing C in today’s NBA. Also I think he’s the type that will thrive more with better players around him, especially good passers who would allow
    him to be a lob threat and above the rim floor spacer. He reminds me a bit of Robert Williams from Boston.

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    Well we don’t have those players on our team only reason I am a hard pass on him.

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    , I wouldn't bat an eye if the Spurs selected him with their first pick.


    You really like him that much? I assume you're talking about the 8 or 9 pick. Would you still be okay with him if they got the 4 pick, knowing who all would be on the board? I'm just curious how much you like him.

    I said before that I wasn't crazy about Eason with the Spurs' pick because he's been a me-first player, IMO. But I have to say, if it was a choice between him and Sochan my gut says Eason.

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    You really like him that much? I assume you're talking about the 8 or 9 pick. Would you still be okay with him if they got the 4 pick, knowing who all would be on the board? I'm just curious how much you like him.

    I said before that I wasn't crazy about Eason with the Spurs' pick because he's been a me-first player, IMO. But I have to say, if it was a choice between him and Sochan my gut says Eason.
    I'm not saying I would select Sochan at 7 or 8. I'm saying I can totally see the Spurs taking him there even if draft boards are showing him lower.

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    I'm not saying I would select Sochan at 7 or 8. I'm saying I can totally see the Spurs taking him there even if draft boards are showing him lower.

    Okay, I get that. I confess I didn't pay that much attention to him this year. I spent more time deciding I didn't like Kendall Brown as much as a lot of the mocks. But I wouldn't mind seeing someone who plays defense being drafted with one of those later picks.

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    My board right now.

    Tier 1: Holmgren, Ivey, Smith, Banchero - generally weaker top tier compared to most drafts but pretty equal in terms of quality and projection. Wouldn't surprise me if Ivey goes 2nd, even 1st, depending on which team gets the number 1 pick.
    Wild card: Sharpe - no idea where to put him, his stock will depend a whole lot on workouts, but he seems the kind of player who'd excel in an empty gym. If the Spurs pick around 7th/8th/9th and he's still there I'd be totally fine rolling the dice.
    Tier 2: Davis, Mathurin, Griffin, Murray - again, not great mid-lottery talent compared to past drafts. Currently I like Davis and Mathurin the most, both projecting to be good NBA scorers and decent defenders, i.e. high floors.
    Tier 3: Sochan, Duren, Eason, Hardy, Baldwin Jr, Daniels, Kessler, Washington, Branham - yet again, not impressive. I believe Hardy and Baldwin will be selected higher than currently projected based on talent rather than production just like Ziaire Williams last year. Same with Houstan, Christie, Watson if they declare. Major questions about literally everyone's ability to score efficiently on the NBA level, bar Branham, who seems to have a low-ish ceiling.

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    I've watched everything on Spagnolo except the full games, that's still to come, but I really like what I've seen.

    He's decently young, 19 and a half at draft time, turns 20 in January. He's allegedly 6-4, but I think he's closer to 6-3. Eye test looks like he does not have long arms, which does contribute to his lack of steals and watching some clips suggests he won't be a plus defender.

    But damn he can be fun to watch. His handle is pretty slick and he can get downhill at the current level of compe ion. He has the pull up 3 and overall hits 3s at a good clip, though the attempts per game are low. His passing in the pick and roll is promising, and in general his use of fakes I think is advanced for his age. There's some Manu-type flashes with his passing, it's that fun. But lots of turnovers too, and if there's Manu flashes in passing there might be Marco flashes on defense.

    I also like how he is able to seek out contact and use use it to score at that level, something that has been missing from the Spurs backcourt for years now

    On to the full games if they're on YouTube

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    Yeah he’s been touted as a 6’11 guy mostly but during this season a few scout/analysts have said he looks closer to 6’9. My guess is that the combine measurements will reveal he’s about 6’9 without shoes which would make him 6’10 in the old NBA height. Apparently his wingspan is 7’5 so he should have a good standing reach.

    I don’t think he’ll have a problem playing C in today’s NBA. Also I think he’s the type that will thrive more with better players around him, especially good passers who would allow
    him to be a lob threat and above the rim floor spacer. He reminds me a bit of Robert Williams from Boston.

    I also think he's close to 6'10 than 6'11.

    I like your comp with Rob Williams, i think he's a better version of him with more upside.

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    There's a distinction there, in a similar vein to players who were clearly on a Hall of Fame trek only to be derailed by injury.



    Beyond that, the Warriors just didn't have a long enough run at or near the top to earn dynasty status.

    I'd agree with you that it was a shorter run than the 60s Celtics, 80s Lakers, 90s Bulls, etc., but I still think having a five year run with a 73 win season sandwiched in between two 67 win seasons plus three les is good enough material for a modern day NBA dynasty. It seems this debate got a little off track though-- the original point was that they built the core of their team primarily through the relatively ordinary draft picks of a #7 + a #11 + a #35, and I'd still say that's pretty impressive. Teams like Sacramento, the Knicks, and quite a few others have consistently had similar or better chances and not even produced playoff teams.

    Durant's a whole other topic, but I've always sided with him & the Warriors on that one. Staying with Westbrook would've simply been a bad basketball decision on Durant's part, and I think more & more people are seeing that. I can't fault a guy for wanting to play with guys who play the right way fundamentally over anchoring himself to Russ. People were dazzled by Westbrook's number for a while, but most have come around now to the opinion that his style of play-- low efficiency shooting, poor shot selection, laziness on defense, high usage rate, high turnovers-- is not conducive to winning championships. I'd judge Durant more harshly if he'd stayed in OKC for sentimental reasons, ignoring the fact that it wasn't the best move to make at the time.

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    A quick 7 - 8 minute video where Ryan puts forward what he has heard from 5 different NBA FO types from 5 different teams…
    One even has Shaedon Sharpe as number deuce on his board…


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    Taking a guy who you don't even know if he can play college ball with a #2 pick seems insane. It's not like you're picking Kemp or Bryant or some other dude straight out of high school. He wasn't that good in high school.

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