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I remember there was a report suggesting Butler was on the Spurs radar and if Kawhi is not available Butler is gonna be our pick. However since we got Kawhi, we go after CoJo instead
I like CoJo, but he was the player selected immediately before Jimmy Butler. I don’t know if Jimmy Butler was on Spurs’ radar having already drafted Kawhi at #15, but the Spurs drafted a position in need (having traded George Hill for the right to draft Kawhi) instead of a BPA who turned to be a multiple AS player, member of All-Defensive in multiple years, and possibly a future Hofer. Sadly that would people remember CoJo for instead of the dunk on Ibaca. Who knows what could’ve happened next had Spurs drafted Butler instead to pair with Kawhi. Dang
I remember there was a report suggesting Butler was on the Spurs radar and if Kawhi is not available Butler is gonna be our pick. However since we got Kawhi, we go after CoJo instead
So on this instance Spurs picked a position in need and not the BPA?
As Dex and others have mentioned, he can man the ship at PG fine for a team that is trying to move up in the lottery. A backup point guard for a contender? No way. I cringe when Sean and Bill Land talk about what a great guard he is. He gets hammered at the rim if there's a decent defender nearby. He doesn't create offense, and his outside shot is sh!t.
He's at the top of my list of "who needs to be replaced" on the roster for next year. Some length at the wing and a true backup point guard are the two gaping holes with this team.
I guess when we have multiple picks we have more optuons
I honestly can't understand why Primo isn't running 2nd pg duties. His vision is so great an he can score. They just throw him in a corner for some reason. But tbh, I love Tre Jones... Just shouldn't be playing if he can't hit the 3ball
He simply is not ready. Primo has a long way to go to even be a nightly backup. I think PATFO are unsure how to best unlock what appears to be a high ceiling. I’m not sure asking him to run the point at the NBA level is the answer, not yet atleast.
Primo is not a PG while Tre is. Pop gives Primo some PG responsibilities as part of unleashing skills, and hopefully he can facilitate like Demar did playing a combo guard/SF. But yeah, Primo has a long wayyy to go.
It sounds like Tre Jones needs to hit 40% from three and average 8 assists otherwise he’s like a total bust!!!
and grow to 6’5
One of his attributes as a collegian was his defense, but in the NBA bigger players start licking their chops when he's paired off on them. Whether on the perimeter or taking him down into the lane, he simply presents very little in the way of defense to bigger players.
I think you've touched on Tre's "issue" which is that his attributes don't match what's required of a player in today's NBA. Guys need to be able to play multiple positions and guard multiple players and handle multiple matchups and be able to shoot from the outside. Jones is basically a throw-back to Avery Johnson without the same level of court leadership. As talented as he is, the NBA of today might not match his skillset.
This thread is not going to age well, as soon as Tre hits the 3’s this off-season, and posters start praising what a steal at 41st pick
Disagree completely. Hes a fixed jump shot away from being one of the better back up points in the league. Hes very good defensively, he does run the offense the best to its ability currently. If England can develop his shot better, which hes proven he can with players of all ages, then the offense when hes in improves.
Wouldnt be quick to give up on Tre Jones. Patience.
He's filler at this point he'll be replaced in the draft
He was a good pick at 41. He’s on path to be a solid backup point guard. His lack of switchability is a concern in general, and probably the best critique of him, but if he already was a great shooter then he wouldn’t have been available at 41. You take what you can get in thensecond round. As far as asset management, I’m way more concerned about Primo.
I agree that Tre isn't a bad pick at #41 by any means, but disagree on the rest of the analysis. He's on path to be a "solid backup PG" in the same way that the Spurs' current players are "NBA starters" - a low threshold. As long as he can't shoot (and moreso, as long as he's literally scared to shoot, we're not even talking percentages here because he doesn't allow himself a sample size), he'll never be an above-average backup PG. His scoring is "nifty" in the vein of having to be wary of his shot getting blocked 1/3 times, he doesn't have a real pullup from anywhere on the floor, and is just scared of putting the ball in the hoop in general.
I'll be the first to admit that I haven't watched too much of him closely, nor checked his numbers, maybe he's one of those cases where the eye test is very misleading and stats paint a wholly different picture. But nothing that I've seen from Tre Jones is irreplaceable, not even for a backup. I'd much rather they keep on drafting PGs with their later picks (they have 3 this season, I'd like two of them to be forwards/bigs and one PG, if no trades are made), in search of one that can shoot. Because there's no more to it than that... If you wanna play in the NBA nowadays, you gotta shoot, at almost every position (even non-shooting C's like Jakob are suffering heavily from this, like last night showed), and being the smallest player on the court? Yeah, you gotta make them respect you.
He's not "condemned" to never make it in the NBA, and maybe he locks himself in the gym with Chip, yadda yadda. But there's not so many cases of guys entering the league, at 22 no less, with literally no shooting, and then turning their careers around in that aspect. I'm quite low on him, and his overrated defense, as mentioned above, is another reason why. Players aren't scared at all to bully him and shoot over him, and it's not gonna change. He runs the offense just fine, yes, but there's hundreds of 18-19 yo PGs waiting to be drafted that can do that too, and bring everything else to the table that Tre lacks.
Very low on him, thus far, sadly.
At the apologists still misconstruing something that couldn't be more simple.
Sugus: Well thought out points, but I wasn’t trying to offer an in-depth analysis other than second round picks generally suck and there’s no reason to get too worked up about him; our first round picks plateauing is my bigger concern
TD21: Never really sure if you’re trolling or you actually subscribe to the black and white world you project.
Interesting. Tre 2/3 from downtown tonight…
all three attempts were the Bruce Bowen corner variety. He needs to master that shot going forward
This thread is not going to age well
it really isn’t. LolThis thread is not going to age well
i will admit him getting switched on defense is an issue but he does a solid job fighting through screens and he is pretty good with on ball defense.
offensively he is pretty good beating guys off the bounce already, he just needs to work on his 3 and mid range shots. Dude will be a good back up point guard in the NBA just like his brother if he gets his jumper working and getting drafted at the 41st pick he is already pretty decent.
And he’s already sending those 3’s. I’m pretty sure he’ll work on that some more this off season
Modern game is at the rim and 3s. He gets to the rim. 3 is a work in progress but it seems achievable.
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