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    Lakers look completely done.
    they literally cant beat anyone without lebron&ad. They are fcked. No pick and no chance to win

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    Dallas is smacking that Ass - Le China is done

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    Lol westy and melo

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    Drafting in the 1st round doesn't automatically equate to high end talent. The Rockets have one player projected to fit that description. The Kings are horribly constructed, including their two "All-Star threats".

    I want the Spurs to get a high pick because it's greater odds of getting a high end talent. There are obviously no guarantees though.
    If we're being real, I think the draft will take care of itself. I'm not saying that I expect the Spurs to get a top-four pick, but I do think they'll come away with a prospect that ends up in the Rising Stars game (though more likely their second year) and at least one other that people like (and I expect that second player to be different for different fans). Eason is a guy I've liked a lot for a while, and Duren looked good recently. Would I hope to draft Jaden Ivey in the top four and come around to grab one of those other guys in a trade-up? Yeah, I'd prefer that. But someone is going to fall that ends up being intriguing, and while I don't doubt there will be one or two guys obviously better taken higher up, I think there will be a lot of worse players that SA may have taken over the player they get if they had the chance. They drafted Samanic over much better players after all. They can be blinded by raw potential.

    But they don't have tons of assets.
    They have 10 firsts over the next seven drafts and a number solid prospects to go along with their cap space and expirings. As a team looking to make a win-now move, that's pretty good. They also have a high-end role-player center and a young All-Star with two years left on his deal. As a team looking to completely tear down, that's really good. Yes, there are better teams out there for both cases, but the Spurs have the la ude to bring in two All-Star --caliber players this summer without going into pick , and they're one of the few teams that could acquire a top-five pick that would have any real interest in doing so.

    A single building block is all I'm advocating for. This is not a ground floor re-build.
    I'm saying the idea of building from a single block isn't enough of a plan. How you get that block matters, because you can't count on keeping that block past like seven years (less if you're in New Orleans). Stars don't just want to play with players. They want to play in situations. If the Spurs can't put a good situation together, they aren't likely to keep their stars. If they can't, they're more likely to acquire more stars. I know a Murray/Lavine/Collins trio doesn't feel like a contender, but they'd be a young group that could be together for a long time, and the Spurs would still have some of Poeltl, Vassell, Richardson, Johnson and their picks to continue to build. Do they have a real chance at Lavine? I don't know, but I don't think it's less likely than them winning the lotto AND hitting on the right player. If it's not him, it can be someone else. There are a number of good scoring guards in the league in unideal situations (Mitc , Nunn, Gary Harris and Sexton as youngish examples but also guys like Beal and Irving as unlikely free-agent wildcards). Murray's flexibility allows the Spurs to bring in guys at either position. The same interchangeability is there with Collins as well. Randle, Ingram, Siakam, Grant and Harris are other examples.

    I agree, but the lineup you're proposing is too lacking in ball handling mainly.
    With Vassell, possibly. With another lead-guard type, maybe not.

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    Lebron to miss playoffs for 4th time in his career?!

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    Lebron to miss playoffs for 4th time in his career?!
    I wish people didn't on him for that. How many years has it been since Tim played in the post-season? What about MJ? Wait, Lebron is still playing?

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    I wish people didn't on him for that. How many years has it been since Tim played in the post-season? What about MJ? Wait, Lebron is still playing?
    whos ting?! Its impressive. Not as impressive as timmy but still

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    I wish people didn't on him for that. How many years has it been since Tim played in the post-season? What about MJ? Wait, Lebron is still playing?
    well thats a bit apples and oranges. lebron is in his 19th season, duncan played 19 seasons. obviously though lebron in year 19 >> duncan in year 19

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    Man if the mavs can ever put anyone next to luka

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    It's pretty hilarious that the Lakers now have the same record as SA

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    Couldnt get boban a bucket

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    well thats a bit apples and oranges. lebron is in his 19th season, duncan played 19 seasons. obviously though lebron in year 19 >> duncan in year 19
    Eh, should look at it through ages. Timmy at 37 > LeBron at 37.

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    It's pretty hilarious that the Lakers now have the same record as SA

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    Lakers active cap...$149M

    Spurs active cap...$80M

    Record after 75 games....even.

    Don't sit there and tell me Pop isn't a great coach.

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    Lakers active cap...$149M

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    Record after 75 games....even.

    Don't sit there and tell me Pop isn't a great coach.

    Dear... well, Me. A .413 winning percentage is now proof of good coaching? You do realize that under the old, non-playin system they would be 5 games behind the 8th place team with 7 games left, and next to last in the Southwest division? So functionally dead.

    Maybe they can win those two playin games and get to the 15th pick in the draft, proving once and for all that Pop really is the GOAT.

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    Dear... well, Me. A .413 winning percentage is now proof of good coaching? You do realize that under the old, non-playin system they would be 5 games behind the 8th place team with 7 games left, and next to last in the Southwest division? So functionally dead.

    Maybe they can win those two playin games and get to the 15th pick in the draft, proving once and for all that Pop really is the GOAT.
    Have you SEEN this roster? We spent half the year playing Drew Eubanks and Bryn ing Forbes

    Yet, still somehow as good as a team with LeBron, Anthony Davis, and Russell Westbrook.

    But I'm sure Tim Duncan carried them there, too.

    We ain't winning a championship or anything and are lucky to even be in the playoff conversation, but give credit where it's due, dude

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    I think we definitely should try for the play-in. These young guys need to taste success.. and not tanking.

    Murray needs to zone in and lead us.

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    Have you SEEN this roster? We spent half the year playing Drew Eubanks and Bryn ing Forbes

    Yet, still somehow as good as a team with LeBron, Anthony Davis, and Russell Westbrook.

    But I'm sure Tim Duncan carried them there, too.

    We ain't winning a championship or anything and are lucky to even be in the playoff conversation, but give credit where it's due, dude
    Spurs are only as good as the lakers right now record wise because lebron and ad have missed soo many games. Still, im not arguing pops greatness at all

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    Lakers active cap...$149M

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    Record after 75 games....even.

    Don't sit there and tell me Pop isn't a great coach.
    Memphis is 52-23 with a cap of 117M vs Spurs 127M

    Not sure where you're going with "active cap" (cherry picking?) but if you mean for the 1st time in years Pop isn't overpaying for slackers like Softridge and Patty 50, well congrats.

    Phoenix last year made the Finals with a salary of 128M vs Spurs 129M, and that included massive overpay for Chrissy Paul.

    Guess Monty Williams and Taylor Jenkins might be greater?

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    Memphis is 52-23 with a cap of 117M vs Spurs 127M

    Not sure where you're going with "active cap" (cherry picking?) but if you mean for the 1st time in years Pop isn't overpaying for slackers like Softridge and Patty 50, well congrats.

    Phoenix last year made the Finals with a salary of 128M vs Spurs 129M, and that included massive overpay for Chrissy Paul.

    Guess Monty Williams and Taylor Jenkins might be greater?
    "Active cap" is pretty obvious if you aren't looking for a diss. He's talking about cap space that isn't used on dead money. The Spurs are paying guys $80 Million to get their record and $47 Million to guy who aren't on the team and basically never were.

    I don't really like the "bang for buck" logic in the first place, mind you, but the counter you used wasn't very good either.

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    Memphis is 52-23 with a cap of 117M vs Spurs 127M

    Not sure where you're going with "active cap" (cherry picking?) but if you mean for the 1st time in years Pop isn't overpaying for slackers like Softridge and Patty 50, well congrats.

    Phoenix last year made the Finals with a salary of 128M vs Spurs 129M, and that included massive overpay for Chrissy Paul.

    Guess Monty Williams and Taylor Jenkins might be greater?
    The Spurs took back salaries that they cut in order to get future assets. A lot of salary isn’t playing for them.

    Yes, Memphis is great. And their record is even better without Ja. What’s up with that?

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    If Spurs eliminate The Lakers and LeBron leaves. They would have broken up two LeBron super teams
    ooo yeah baby i like the way you talk

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    "Active cap" is pretty obvious if you aren't looking for a diss. He's talking about cap space that isn't used on dead money. The Spurs are paying guys $80 Million to get their record and $47 Million to guy who aren't on the team and basically never were.

    I don't really like the "bang for buck" logic in the first place, mind you, but the counter you used wasn't very good either.
    Huh?
    Working examples?

    If the Spurs are paying guys 47 million who aren't on the team isn't this dog doo doo?

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    The Spurs took back salaries that they cut in order to get future assets. A lot of salary isn’t playing for them.

    Yes, Memphis is great. And their record is even better without Ja. What’s up with that?
    Like the guy who dressed like Disco Stu?
    And is Softridge still extorting money from the Spurs?

    Memphis without Ja, all i can say is the parts of games i have seen Memphis in recently they are team balling big time. Like the cooperation.

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    Huh?
    Working examples?

    If the Spurs are paying guys 47 million who aren't on the team isn't this dog doo doo?
    No, because they got two firsts and three seconds for them. They didn't eat that money for free. They rented out a ton of cap space and still put together a roster that might make the playoffs. That's good asset management, though as I said I'm not committed to the idea that it's (more) proof Pop's a great coach.

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