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    It's sad that I think Richardson would have been even better with the Spurs last year. Not that I would have done the White trade to Dallas, but the team badly need a good shooter who played solid D at the wing last year. I would be pretty reluctant to let him go in a trade if the team has any chance at a star free agent. They can make max contract space by paying to dump Langford and trading away the Celtics pick. They can create a bigger max by stretching Collins (though at this point he might deserve another year to get healthy). I'd do that over trading either Richardson. In the very least, his the buoyant ballast needed to make including McDermott neutral in a trade package.

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    I cant imagine Doug is worth much on the trade market given his contract. Prolly an expiring plus a second rounder. Maybe a very late or far away first with heavy protections.
    Doubt you even get a first for him. Probably not too hard to move that contract… I’m sure a contending team over the cap would entertain him but the most you could hope for is an expiring and a second or two. McLovin isn’t good. He is a horrid defender who can’t even box his man out. Shoots a decent 3pt % on low volume for a so called sniper.

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    He's already being paid fairly so he doesn't have much surplus value so why should teams attach major assets for him?

    I could see a Thad Young style deal with Doug and Lakers pick being packaged for a first this year. Memphis has three firsts and would make a ton of sense. Almost any contender picking at the end of the first would make sense for such a deal.
    Where did I say major assets would come back? It's essentially a salary dump, but his skill set is the asset we attach to the deal. I would honestly take almost any ending contract that has a pulse.

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    Surprisingly Richardson filled a need. Many fans have talked down on the The D. White trade, but we are finally seeing some of the plusses. It just took a while. Lets see what we get from the Boston draft pick. Even if its in the late 20's it could turn into something better as well.

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    Surprisingly Richardson filled a need. Many fans have talked down on the The D. White trade, but we are finally seeing some of the plusses. It just took a while. Lets see what we get from the Boston draft pick. Even if its in the late 20's it could turn into something better as well.

    not too surprising. Hes always been a good defender and not afraid to shoot. Spurs needed a good 3/d vet

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    This can be said of countless players but man Richardson would have thrived in the big three era. He would have been the fourth best player on a lot of teams from 04-11

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    This can be said of countless players but man Richardson would have thrived in the big three era. He would have been the fourth best player on a lot of teams from 04-11

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    This can be said of countless players but man Richardson would have thrived in the big three era. He would have been the fourth best player on a lot of teams from 04-11
    Why they should have found a way to pay Stephen Jackson

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    I really would like the spurs to keep this guy. He seems to be a high character and good locker room type with good skills to back that all up.

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    I really would like the spurs to keep this guy. He seems to be a high character and good locker room type with good skills to back that all up.
    There are a lot of moving parts this summer, draft picks, cap room, FAs, trades. If things go poorly, and it looks like another lottery year, he'll probably be moved. He might be anyway, as an ending contract that will be 30 in the summer of 2023 when he hits free agency.

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    Surprisingly Richardson filled a need. Many fans have talked down on the The D. White trade, but we are finally seeing some of the plusses. It just took a while. Lets see what we get from the Boston draft pick. Even if its in the late 20's it could turn into something better as well.
    Honestly not seeing any drop off from Derrick at all. I was a fan of Derrick, but I'm gonna say this was a of a trade by our FO. Got a first and a pick swap for no discernable downgrade at the position and put us in a better salary cap position... that's pretty damn optimal.

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    Honestly not seeing any drop off from Derrick at all. I was a fan of Derrick, but I'm gonna say this was a of a trade by our FO. Got a first and a pick swap for no discernable downgrade at the position and put us in a better salary cap position... that's pretty damn optimal.

    if that pick swap pays off its a freaking of a steal for sa

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    I'm in for keeping this guy. He gives a dynamic sorely missing not only to the bench, but to the team, and he seems like he's fitting in very well personality-wise. Obviously cost matters, but I can't see easily finding this sort of player otherwise.

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    If the goal of the Spurs is to start becoming a playoff caliber team, then not only do you not trade Richardson we need to find a way to re-sign him. For the type of team we seem to be trying to build you will not find a better bench guard. He was miscast in Dallas and Boston but he is a perfect fit here. Even if the Spurs have to pay a little above market value they should, otherwise they are going to have to invest time and effort into finding a guy like Josh...which would be dumb...since he is already on the team.

    If we could give him a Josh Hart type deal, 3 for somewhere between 30 and 37 million...that would be an absolute steal for us.

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    If the goal of the Spurs is to start becoming a playoff caliber team, then not only do you not trade Richardson we need to find a way to re-sign him. For the type of team we seem to be trying to build you will not find a better bench guard. He was miscast in Dallas and Boston but he is a perfect fit here. Even if the Spurs have to pay a little above market value they should, otherwise they are going to have to invest time and effort into finding a guy like Josh...which would be dumb...since he is already on the team.

    If we could give him a Josh Hart type deal, 3 for somewhere between 30 and 37 million...that would be an absolute steal for us.
    Lonnie hasn’t been paid. Keldon hasn’t been paid. Vassell hasn’t been paid. Primo hasn’t been paid. I love Josh Richardson, but he’ll be 29 this summer, and 30 when he’s a FA in 2023. We got a first and a pick swap for White, and a first for Thad and our top SRP. If you can pull a good deal for him this summer or next deadline, you do it. He’s increasing his value to contender daily. I don’t think a FRP and a good SRP is out of the question.

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    Lonnie hasn’t been paid. Keldon hasn’t been paid. Vassell hasn’t been paid. Primo hasn’t been paid. I love Josh Richardson, but he’ll be 29 this summer, and 30 when he’s a FA in 2023. We got a first and a pick swap for White, and a first for Thad and our top SRP. If you can pull a good deal for him this summer or next deadline, you do it. He’s increasing his value to contender daily. I don’t think a FRP and a good SRP is out of the question.
    I'd be shocked if Lonnie is on this team next year. Keldon is not going to get some crazy offer from other teams, I can see him getting a Murray type deal. Vassell is two years away from getting paid. Paying Richardson a reasonable contract really shouldn't affect the contract of any of those players. Doug can also be traded since he not only adds anything of value to this team, we have easily played our best basketball without him.

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    I'd be shocked if Lonnie is on this team next year. Keldon is not going to get some crazy offer from other teams, I can see him getting a Murray type deal. Vassell is two years away from getting paid. Paying Richardson a reasonable contract really shouldn't affect the contract of any of those players. Doug can also be traded since he not only adds anything of value to this team, we have easily played our best basketball without him.
    Lonnie is a year late, because he didn’t get an extension. If he’s kept, he gets paid now. Keldon is also THIS year, and Vassell is NEXT year.

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    Don’t look now but I think J-Rich could be staying. This guy has a lot of dog in him. He’s new in the team, yet you can see already his veteran presence yet his only 28, very vocal. Already he was hanging out with the guys in Austin. What to do with him? Start him ala Danny Green? Keep him as a spark coming from the bench? He’s a good problem.

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    Richardson is 41% from three and 44% overall. Looks like a keeper to me

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    Lonnie hasn’t been paid. Keldon hasn’t been paid. Vassell hasn’t been paid. Primo hasn’t been paid. I love Josh Richardson, but he’ll be 29 this summer, and 30 when he’s a FA in 2023. We got a first and a pick swap for White, and a first for Thad and our top SRP. If you can pull a good deal for him this summer or next deadline, you do it. He’s increasing his value to contender daily. I don’t think a FRP and a good SRP is out of the question.
    As much as I've come to enjoy his contributions to this team on multiple levels, this is the correct answer.

    This franchise really has no other option than to get better via the draft, ultimately. If a high second or FRP is available, you take it.

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    Lonnie is a year late, because he didn’t get an extension. If he’s kept, he gets paid now. Keldon is also THIS year, and Vassell is NEXT year.
    KJ can get his extension this offseason and Vassell can get his next offseason. However the new contract starts one year later after their current contract ends, so not sure where KJ gets paid this year and Vassell next year comes from.

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    Can't replicate what he does for this team. Hard to find a better fit who is fine coming off the bench. Just take the win and don't try to min max everything.

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    Can't replicate what he does for this team. Hard to find a better fit who is fine coming off the bench. Just take the win and don't try to min max everything.
    Josh is a nice piece, but he’s really not going to elevate the team to another level. If you want that player who will elevate your team, you need to obtain and use as many FRPs as possible. Keeping players like Josh to stay on the play in/ bottom playoff team treadmill is suicide, and not a win.

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    KJ can get his extension this offseason and Vassell can get his next offseason. However the new contract starts one year later after their current contract ends, so not sure where KJ gets paid this year and Vassell next year comes from.
    OK, so KJ gets paid next year, at the same time JRich is up, and Vassell the year after. Do you know who else gets paid that next year? Dejounte, for the second time, and I guarantee you, it won’t be 4/$64M again.

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    Josh is a nice piece, but he’s really not going to elevate the team to another level. If you want that player who will elevate your team, you need to obtain and use as many FRPs as possible. Keeping players like Josh to stay on the play in/ bottom playoff team treadmill is suicide, and not a win.
    You are overvaluing Josh as a trade piece. You wan't to min max things you trade DJ.

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