Page 11 of 34 FirstFirst ... 78910111213141521 ... LastLast
Results 251 to 275 of 847
  1. #251
    Emperor Duncan>>>>>King James tim_duncan_fan's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Post Count
    3,964
    This is exactly the reason I want the Spurs to retain him next season. I don't care wether the plan is to tank out the season or gun for the play-in, but we need these kind of vet presences, not only in the lockerroom but also in practices. Devin and Lonnie could both use the help in the areas Rich is already great at, and he seems to have nice chemistry with the team and been integrated well. He could really help the youngings' development through the off-season and next season too.

    Solidly on "keep him at any cost" camp, tbh, which I also wasn't expecting to be when the trade was announced.
    I don't know why he wouldn't be back. Dude is a smooth player. He's not an all-star but he can hoop and he's wanted to play for Pop for a long time and he makes us better.

    He's better than White by simply taking the open shot without stuttering and having an existential crisis to give the defender time to close. The shots actually going in is a bonus.

  2. #252
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    10,246
    Celtics fans are already turning on him because of how ty his offense is .

    Love Derrick but literally can’t shoot. And he’s a SG lol. Trading him was 100% the right move.
    Boston sports fans can be emo tools. It’s not an accident that they went on their tear when they got White. He’s the glue that prevents them from playing “your turn, my turn.” Really elevates their BBIQ.

  3. #253
    Veteran emanueldavidginobili's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Post Count
    5,151
    I don't know why he wouldn't be back. Dude is a smooth player. He's not an all-star but he can hoop and he's wanted to play for Pop for a long time and he makes us better.

    He's better than White by simply taking the open shot without stuttering and having an existential crisis to give the defender time to close. The shots actually going in is a bonus.
    Yeah that's what I love about J Rich, this dude doesn't hesitate whatsoever and we desperately need someone like that.

  4. #254
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    342
    It was a win-win for both franchises. White has helped Boston's offensive flow and team defense even though his shooting has been booty (picking up as of late though). I'm sure he's happy to be on a contender too and they are a legit threat to make it out of the East, particularly if Timelord returns by the 2nd round. First round draft picks don't really mean that much for contenders.

    The Spurs got more cap flexibility and a good haul in trade return: A late FRP, a player in Richardson who possibly fetches a late FRP since he's under contract another year to my knowledge, and that top 1 protected pick swap that won't likely convey but you never know. Not sure Romeo has any value internally as a development project or trade asset.

    The Spurs need a Star level talent (preferably a big) to pair with DJ as he continues to evolve to move this franchise from a late-lottery to perennial playoff team. Acquiring all these draft assets give them a better chance to find him because as many have stated, it won't be in FA. You have a bunch of young players that could become good as well that could be packaged with all these picks as well.

  5. #255
    Veteran Dejounte's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    15,644
    It was a win-win for both franchises. White has helped Boston's offensive flow and team defense even though his shooting has been booty (picking up as of late though). I'm sure he's happy to be on a contender too and they are a legit threat to make it out of the East, particularly if Timelord returns by the 2nd round. First round draft picks don't really mean that much for contenders.

    The Spurs got more cap flexibility and a good haul in trade return: A late FRP, a player in Richardson who possibly fetches a late FRP since he's under contract another year to my knowledge, and that top 1 protected pick swap that won't likely convey but you never know. Not sure Romeo has any value internally as a development project or trade asset.

    The Spurs need a Star level talent (preferably a big) to pair with DJ as he continues to evolve to move this franchise from a late-lottery to perennial playoff team. Acquiring all these draft assets give them a better chance to find him because as many have stated, it won't be in FA. You have a bunch of young players that could become good as well that could be packaged with all these picks as well.
    Why won’t the top 1 protected pick convey?

  6. #256
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    45,483
    Why won’t the top 1 protected pick convey?
    I think what he means is that if we have a worse record than Boston, a top 1 protected pick swap option is useless. If we improve, and are at pick 20, and Boston is at 26, obvs we don’t swap.

  7. #257
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    1,151
    Why won’t the top 1 protected pick convey?
    Boston has it protected from some of the things I have seen. it is only protected top 1 though not even top 4.
    Last edited by talkspurs; 04-03-2022 at 05:04 PM. Reason: https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2022/02/derrick-white-trade-celtics-draft-pick-compensation-sent-to-spurs-have-light-protections-for-2022-2028-swap.html

  8. #258
    Formerly Spurs21 KingKev's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Post Count
    5,928
    Boston has it protected from some of the things I have seen. it is only protected top 1 though not even top 4.
    It’s very simple. If Boston has the top pick no swap. If the Spurs have a better pick than Boston no swap. If Boston has a better record it conveys so long as they aren’t #1.

  9. #259
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    1,151
    It’s very simple. If Boston has the top pick no swap. If the Spurs have a better pick than Boston no swap. If Boston has a better record it conveys so long as they aren’t #1.
    I know what it is I was answering the two people right before that did not know it was top 1 protected.

  10. #260
    Veteran R. DeMurre's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    4,126
    When the Lakers traded away a ton of draft capital to the Pelicans in the Anthony Davis move, they never expected the 2022 pick to be a lottery pick. They assumed it'd be a pick in the late 20s. And that was only in the summer of 2019. Fast forward three years, and the Lakers are royally screwed, though that also has to do with a mul ude of bad moves. 2028 is a long long ways away...

  11. #261
    Formerly Spurs21 KingKev's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Post Count
    5,928
    When the Lakers traded away a ton of draft capital to the Pelicans in the Anthony Davis move, they never expected the 2022 pick to be a lottery pick. They assumed it'd be a pick in the late 20s. And that was only in the summer of 2019. Fast forward three years, and the Lakers are royally screwed, though that also has to do with a mul ude of bad moves. 2028 is a long long ways away...
    it’s so fulfilling isn't it. I hope the entire league boycotts them this summer, I’d even enjoy over paying Monk just to fk them. Not even minimum contract ring chasers will want to go there.

  12. #262
    El rojo y los Spurs!!! Ariel's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Post Count
    4,175
    The trade is already ok as Richardson has proven himself useful and fits better. If there's something of value at twenty-something, it's VERY good. And if the pick swap sees us rise up the board significantly, it's a jackpot. There's no downside, only question is how good in the ok-awesome spectrum the deal lies. Time will tell, but we can wait at ease.

  13. #263
    Remember Cherokee Parks The Truth #6's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Post Count
    6,911
    When the Lakers traded away a ton of draft capital to the Pelicans in the Anthony Davis move, they never expected the 2022 pick to be a lottery pick. They assumed it'd be a pick in the late 20s. And that was only in the summer of 2019. Fast forward three years, and the Lakers are royally screwed, though that also has to do with a mul ude of bad moves. 2028 is a long long ways away...
    This seems to be their new pattern, perhaps. Tamper to get a player, trade away their future, suddenly vault into contention, make dumb moves to keep superstars happy, and then back to being ty again. Feels like a metaphor for something grander, but I'll keep it to basketball here.

  14. #264
    near awake, semi-coherent
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Post Count
    1,386
    This is exactly the reason I want the Spurs to retain him next season. I don't care wether the plan is to tank out the season or gun for the play-in, but we need these kind of vet presences, not only in the lockerroom but also in practices. Devin and Lonnie could both use the help in the areas Rich is already great at, and he seems to have nice chemistry with the team and been integrated well. He could really help the youngings' development through the off-season and next season too.

    Solidly on "keep him at any cost" camp, tbh, which I also wasn't expecting to be when the trade was announced.
    I would be a nice guy to keep, not a at any cost guy but definitely valuable. I would be willing to offer a contract roughly equal to 12 mill, add 75k per year is reasonable. I would say 2 year which takes him to 30 with a team option for a 3rd year. That is fair money for the production seen out of him in S.A. and based off of his last contract. At 2 years he will be 30 and hunting his last good contract.

  15. #265
    Veteran exstatic's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    45,483
    I would be a nice guy to keep, not a at any cost guy but definitely valuable. I would be willing to offer a contract roughly equal to 12 mill, add 75k per year is reasonable. I would say 2 year which takes him to 30 with a team option for a 3rd year. That is fair money for the production seen out of him in S.A. and based off of his last contract. At 2 years he will be 30 and hunting his last good contract.
    His contract isn’t up until summer 2023, at which time he WILL be 30. The question isn’t about a new contract, but flip him for assets or keep him. His value to a contender is sky high right now.

  16. #266
    Chopper Ed Helicopter Jones's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    14,068
    When the Lakers traded away a ton of draft capital to the Pelicans in the Anthony Davis move, they never expected the 2022 pick to be a lottery pick. They assumed it'd be a pick in the late 20s. And that was only in the summer of 2019. Fast forward three years, and the Lakers are royally screwed, though that also has to do with a mul ude of bad moves. 2028 is a long long ways away...
    And even though Lebron says he's a forever Laker at this point, I don't see him being satisfied playing for a loser for too long. However, if you're the Lakers you can be the sh!ttiest run franchise in sports and you'll still be able to quickly rebuild because so many people want the LA lifestyle.

    That's how you know pro-athletes aren't the greatest money managers. You choose to live in one of the most expensive cities in America and willingly subject yourself to a 12.3% personal state income tax rate on the majority of your earnings.

    Not smart. Flashy and glamorous, I suppose, while it lasts though.

  17. #267
    Wolf Ruvinskis tonight...you's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Post Count
    6,497
    And even though Lebron says he's a forever Laker at this point, I don't see him being satisfied playing for a loser for too long. However, if you're the Lakers you can be the sh!ttiest run franchise in sports and you'll still be able to quickly rebuild because so many people want the LA lifestyle.

    That's how you know pro-athletes aren't the greatest money managers. You choose to live in one of the most expensive cities in America and willingly subject yourself to a 12.3% personal state income tax rate on the majority of your earnings.

    Not smart. Flashy and glamorous, I suppose, while it lasts though.
    YOLO!!!

  18. #268
    Veteran R. DeMurre's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Post Count
    4,126
    And even though Lebron says he's a forever Laker at this point, I don't see him being satisfied playing for a loser for too long. However, if you're the Lakers you can be the sh!ttiest run franchise in sports and you'll still be able to quickly rebuild because so many people want the LA lifestyle.

    That's how you know pro-athletes aren't the greatest money managers. You choose to live in one of the most expensive cities in America and willingly subject yourself to a 12.3% personal state income tax rate on the majority of your earnings.

    Not smart. Flashy and glamorous, I suppose, while it lasts though.

    Yeah, I don't find L.A. appealing at all and would much rather live in a place like New Orleans, which is one of my favorite American cities. I'm amazed more players don't want to be there, but I suppose that's mostly young guys who think bigger places are more flashy & glamorous, like you said.

  19. #269
    Dyna5ty BatManu20's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    36,495
    Lebron back to CLE might have some wheels to it. They’re young but up-and-coming and have solid foundational pieces in Garland and Mobley. Jarrett Allen just made the All-Star team as a reserve. Isaac Okoro and Cedi Osman are solid role players. Kevin Love comes off the books next Summer which will open up a ton of cap space. Makes sense. I agree Lebron won’t wanna stick around if the lakers are dog again next season.

  20. #270
    Every game is game 1 Seventyniner's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Post Count
    10,608
    And even though Lebron says he's a forever Laker at this point, I don't see him being satisfied playing for a loser for too long. However, if you're the Lakers you can be the sh!ttiest run franchise in sports and you'll still be able to quickly rebuild because so many people want the LA lifestyle.

    That's how you know pro-athletes aren't the greatest money managers. You choose to live in one of the most expensive cities in America and willingly subject yourself to a 12.3% personal state income tax rate on the majority of your earnings.

    Not smart. Flashy and glamorous, I suppose, while it lasts though.
    I bet LeBron is making way more endorsement money with the Lakers than he ever did with the Cavs, or even the Heat. He ain't hurting for money.

  21. #271
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    13,102
    And even though Lebron says he's a forever Laker at this point, I don't see him being satisfied playing for a loser for too long. However, if you're the Lakers you can be the sh!ttiest run franchise in sports and you'll still be able to quickly rebuild because so many people want the LA lifestyle.

    That's how you know pro-athletes aren't the greatest money managers. You choose to live in one of the most expensive cities in America and willingly subject yourself to a 12.3% personal state income tax rate on the majority of your earnings.

    Not smart. Flashy and glamorous, I suppose, while it lasts though.
    These guys make millions the added tax is nothing for them. For a regular person California is tough to live in due to expenses but for a rich person that's not the case.

  22. #272
    Veteran Sugus's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Sep 2019
    Post Count
    3,703
    I don't know why he wouldn't be back. Dude is a smooth player. He's not an all-star but he can hoop and he's wanted to play for Pop for a long time and he makes us better.

    He's better than White by simply taking the open shot without stuttering and having an existential crisis to give the defender time to close. The shots actually going in is a bonus.
    Without knowing anything about his contract situation, I'll say the obvious: the Spurs as currently constructed don't really project to be a strong playoff team next season, they're looking like they'd top out at fringe playoff squad unless they go all-tank.

    Jrich, who'll be 29 next season and clearly on his prime, might not want to stick around for the rebuild as just a vet presence/floor raiser. I hope he doesn't look at it like that and stays, but it'd be understandable if he spoke with the FO during the off-season about it. To his credit, he's embraced the Spurs' playoff push instead of checking out after getting traded here, so I'll wish him the best whether he stays or goes, tbh.

  23. #273
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    100,825
    richardson has been as good as we could have hoped for, and could likely net us a pick from a contender next year as well the same way we did with thad young this year. or they could just hang onto him since he's clearly a good player. probably depends quite a bit on what happens with lonnie

  24. #274
    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    57,943
    Since the deadline the Spurs are 14-10. They have the sixth best record in the west in that time frame. Honestly that is phenomenal for this team. NOLA has had all the attention since the deadline but they are only .500.

    Future is bright for this group.

  25. #275
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    100,825
    Since the deadline the Spurs are 14-10. They have the sixth best record in the west in that time frame. Honestly that is phenomenal for this team. NOLA has had all the attention since the deadline but they are only .500.

    Future is bright for this group.
    yep with 3 first round picks coming this year (albeit not great ones)

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •