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JRich was just salary dumped last offseason and traded as a matching salary this trade deadline. I never said anything about payroll.
We got a FRP and a pick swap for White. We got a FRP for our good second rounder and the corpse of Thad Young. I don’t think I’m over valuing the return for JRich at all, and he’s increasing his value to contenders daily.
BTW, you just lost all credibility by suggesting trading DJ to keep payroll manageable and keep JRich.
JRich was just salary dumped last offseason and traded as a matching salary this trade deadline. I never said anything about payroll.
We’ll, I had to try to interpret what your babbling about min max meant, so…
If the Spurs were in a different situation, he'd be a keeper. Since that's far and away, if you're offered a decent first rounder or a younger prospect with more potential, you take it. If he keeps proving himself valuable, he'll be tempting for someone.
I generally agree with this but if the Spurs happen to make a move to land an impactful player that moves the needle he'd be worth keeping. He's a great glue guy and seems to fit nicely with this roster. It's been a smooth transition adding him.
Barring a trade for a star level talent I think Richardson is on next year’s opening roster. He’s the exact veteran presence this team needs. If the team looks like they can be compe ive and contend for the top 7 in the West then I think he sticks. If we’re bottom feeding again next year then I think he’s a trade deadline move.
I’m assuming the end of our roster is all at risk of losing their spots this summer depending on who we acquire. McBuckets becomes expendable I think now that the Spurs have JRich. Lonnie’s fate might rest on what other teams want to pay for him. I’d personally like to see Lonnie back next year.
This team has come a long way since their 4-13 start. I have a feeling Pop will want to hold most of the core together. In spite of me bashing Wright he seems to be the guy more willing to shake up the roster snow globe and so far he’s been doing that surprisingly well. He might surprise us by moving a core piece this summer.
I am not arguing about trading or keeping Josh or whatever other points u are engage in. I am pointing out that KJ and Vassell are not paid as per your previous post.
This guy knows what's up.
This team is close to the playoffs. They need a PF-type and some real wing help. They especially need to learn how to close out games.
Richardson helps way more than some people realize. He IS an impact player. And you're not likely to find him again with a late first round pick you get from a contender.
I'd rather keep JRich and look to trade McNugget. Spurs look much better without him
You’re picking at minutiae, and ignoring the overarching point: WE’VE GOT A LOT OF MOUTHS TO FEED OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. unless we strike some kind of gold this summer, he maybe a luxury we cannot afford. We’re not the Knicks, Lakers, or Celtics with an unlimited budget.
yup,spurs cant keep everybody
I am not picking on anything, like i said i am just pointing out that the information of when their new contract starts is in accurate. I am not supporting to keep or trade anyone. Is it so difficult to understand and admit a mistake?
Already did. Now, we’re just kind of left with you picking nits.
This! Especially if we don't resign Lonnie but even then I love Lonnie when he plays like the player he can be but still after all this time he is still so shaky for my taste. I'm mostly saying that there are a few Spurs I would rather see traded first before JRich. He provides many unique things that you just can't find everywhere and he is the type of Vet that is needed for this young team.
I don't know about this... I think there will be teams out there willing to make an offer for a young guy averaging 17 & 6 and 40% from three, a guy Draymond Green called a future All Star.
Keldon isn’t a FA this summer, restricted or otherwise. He’s eligible to sign his extension, which would kick in next summer. If he doesn’t, his year 4 contract kicks in and he’s a RFA next summer.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/
Richardson has been playing well, earning his minutes every game on both ends of the court. He is consistent.
You can't say the same for some of the players currently on the roster in the logjam at guard/SF.
I don't think there is one part of his game you can point to and say, "He's way worse than Player "X" on this team." TBH, he's looking good because none of the Spurs players he's competing with are showing themselves to be way better. I did a comparison on Basketball Reference using Richardson against Lonnie and Devin. He and Devin are almost mirror images in all categories. He's marginally better than Lonnie on offense and defense.
One thing caught my attention. He is showing a way greater per rating for on/offcourt than normal for his career. So that probably has something to do with why he's getting more favorable attention. He really IS helping us win a few games.
Should we keep him? I don't know or care much one way or the other. I suppose it will finally depend on which of the three can be packaged for something better. Any decision about his future with the Spurs will depend a lot on salary demands and his age relative to the others.
between McBuckets, J-Rich, Vassell, Keldon, Walker and Primo 2 have to go. That's it unless you want to keep playing Keldon at PF. I think it's a given that McDermott should get moved, so it's either keeping Walker or J-Rich
Being close to the playoffs isn't the goal. If you're a small market team with little hope of improving with free agent signings, then there's no point in not trying to improve your team through the draft if you can. Getting a FRP pick for Josh greatly increases the odds you don't just become a fringe playoff or play-in team. That's basketball purgatory where drafting location may or may not get you much. If you're not a top 4 seed or so, you have to be willing to part with great teammates like Josh. And I'm a fan. But he'll be 30 soon. And we're a 10th or 11th seed right now. You absolutely trade him for the right return price.
I'm saying they're close to the playoffs right now. Next year they should be in the playoffs. They're already much better both as a squad and in knowledge of how to play than they were a few months ago. Trading Richardson for some draft pick just sets them back.
Portland has two top 10 picks, and will be getting Dame, Nurk, Simons, and Hart back. The LAC will be getting Kawhi back. The Spurs won’t crack the top 8 without a major infusion of talent. We’ll be grasping for the play in again.
Rich is someone this team needs. Lonnie can not be counted on imho...
Absolutely agree. It will take some serious luck and savvy/risk taking from PATFO to not be in the exact same position we are currently a year from now which is why consolidating this plethora of decent talent and continuing to build draft capital
is so important.
Whether we want to acknowledge it or not, the Spurs want to win now. Trading a player who fits for some random late first round pick isn't going to do the trick.
Well, by that reasoning then go ahead and trade Keldon Johnson, Vassell and the picks for a couple of years rental of a veteran frontcourt player. I'm sure it can be done. That way you maximize your chances of making the playoffs the next 2 or 3 years just so you get stomped on by the 1st seed as they go on to fight for a championship. Oh, and while you're at it, make sure you overpay Lonnie Walker now, and Poeltl and Richardson next season so that you keep it going, while you kiss your salary cap room goodbye. Nice plan indeed.
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