The Power Forward position

[Leetonidas]

Any chance Spurs buy low on Julius Randle? Maybe the Spurs therapist can help that dude. He looks like he’s about to snap like Will Smith yelling at Chris Rock from his chair. He’s only 27 years old…

Good god no. This dude is the definition of soft, mental midget. He completely collapsed during their embarrassing playoff performance last year against ATL with homecourt. No thanks. His efficacy has plummeted this year. His numbers look nice in 2021 but then you realize he was playing 38mpg He is also an average to poor defender

His only saving grace is that his contract is somewhat 'reasonable' for today given you have guys making 40+ million a year now. but i'd rather save the cap space for a real game changer. dude has a poor at ude as well

[PhantomDashCam]

Did you post Primo's stats to support what I said? They certainly look similar. I am not a huge fan of the d-league redshirt season, so I don't put stock into either player's performance there. There's not a player on the Spurs who wouldn't dominate as the Toro's focal point.

I don't know why you think saying Eason has questions hurts his stock. Unlike Jones, Eason hasn't had professional coaching or even time to see if he can respond to NBA opponents. What seems good and weak are just guesses. Eason has been a game changing defender with a burgeoning offensive game. That's a much better foundation than just being tall and have some floor game. There's a reason why PFs have such a high bust rate. It's because people keep falling in love with the physical tools and just assume they can teach the to play basketball. In a league as marginal as the NBA, that's usually a bridge too far.

You think Primo’s stats are impressive?? Look I like the kid but as a primary PG option (which is what he was there, in an admittedly small sample size), I want to see him shoot the ball better than 39% and not turn it over at almost 4 a game.

Tari may not be as raw a prospect coming out of college as Kai but it’s pretty close. There would still need to be considerable teaching required to get him on the floor in the Spurs system.

Kai’s numbers are incredible to me considering how little he gets the ball in the Greensboro system. They have so many shoot first, undersized 2s (think a team of Patty Mills’) it’s pretty incredible his month to month improvement.

Here take this article FWIW:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...young-prospect

Best young prospect per team - Charlotte Hornets: James Bouknight

1. Deciding between James Bouknight and Kai Jones is waaay harder than it should be.
   Both are rookies. Neither is playing real minutes with the Charlotte Hornets. One was drafted at the end of the lottery (Bouknight.) The other came off the board at No. 19. Default to the lottery pick. End of story.
   And yet, Jones has put up video-game numbers in the G League while gauging the full extent of his range from the perimeter. He also fills a more glaring need in the Hornets rotation, both immediately and over the longer haul. This might be their center of the future in training…

[DAF86]

davis "future all-star" bertans tbh

He would fit like a glove right now, tbh.

[John B]

He would fit like a glove right now, tbh.

I think those knock-out shooters who are defensive liabilities are best fitted to contenders, who have tier 1, 2 players who would demand double-teams. Spurs don’t really have that type of player, yet.

[Chinook]

You think Primo’s stats are impressive?? Look I like the kid but as a primary PG option (which is what he was there, in an admittedly small sample size), I want to see him shoot the ball better than 39% and not turn it over at almost 4 a game.

Tari may not be as raw a prospect coming out of college as Kai but it’s pretty close. There would still need to be considerable teaching required to get him on the floor in the Spurs system.

Kai’s numbers are incredible to me considering how little he gets the ball in the Greensboro system. They have so many shoot first, undersized 2s (think a team of Patty Mills’) it’s pretty incredible his month to month improvement.

Here take this article FWIW:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...young-prospect

No, I think both are mediocre. That's what I've been saying. I don't think Primo's stats are worse like you seem to be implying.

I think Eason and Jones are about the same now that Kai's had a year of professional coaching. Jones wasn't a good college player. Eason is. Just because he has improvement areas doesn't make him a project. You want a good mix of upside and floor. Jones had a low floor and a lower ceiling than many believed. Eason's floor is high and he still has a lot left in terms of ceiling

[DAF86]

I think those knock-out shooters who are defensive liabilities are best fitted to contenders, who have tier 1, 2 players who would demand double-teams. Spurs don’t really have that type of player, yet.

Bertans isn't a defensive liability though. He can stay with folks on the perimeter and is an underrated off ball rim protector.

[RC_Drunkford]

Eason wouldn't be a bad pick. He hit his free throws at 80% this season which bodes well that he can develop a three point shot the same way as Keldon.

I wouldn't compare anybody's work ethic to Keldon's tbh. That dude woke up everyday at 4AM bustin his ass in workouts during the offseason and it shows. The only rooks with similar work ethic have been DJ and nephew when he got here. That's very rare.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Bertans isn't a defensive liability though. He can stay with folks on the perimeter and is an underrated off ball rim protector.

It's interesting how his playing time went from 29 MPG two years ago to 14 or so now. I don't really follow him too closely these days. Is the drop-off due to injury, or has he not lived up to expectations? A great shooter who's supposedly not a defensive liability, with his height, seems like someone who'd be playing more minutes.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

LeBron for a year? Lol

It's funny you say that because I've wondered if he's going to try to bolt from that debacle of a team he's created in LA.

[Mr. Body]

It's interesting how his playing time went from 29 MPG two years ago to 14 or so now. I don't really follow him too closely these days. Is the drop-off due to injury, or has he not lived up to expectations? A great shooter who's supposedly not a defensive liability, with his height, seems like someone who'd be playing more minutes.

He's not a good shooter anymore and doesn't do anything else. And he's a defensive liability.

[BackHome]

Bertans isn't a defensive liability though. He can stay with folks on the perimeter and is an underrated off ball rim protector.

He was just a terrible rebounder though

[Gagnrath]

So at 6'11" and built in college Durens seems like he's being groomed to be a center but he has some face-up game has anyone seen if he has enough speed to reasonably play PF next to Poetle?

[Mr. Body]

So at 6'11" and built in college Durens seems like he's being groomed to be a center but he has some face-up game has anyone seen if he has enough speed to reasonably play PF next to Poetle?

He seems like a straight-up center. He's also likely smaller than listed.

[PhantomDashCam]

Is Josh Primo a Spur??

I am not a huge fan of the d-league redshirt season, so I don't put stock into either player's performance there. There's not a player on the Spurs who wouldn't dominate as the Toro's focal point.

No, I think both are mediocre. That's what I've been saying.

Without getting Eason involved, my point was I’d do Kai for our 1st (if not top 4) straight up. I’m clearly in the minority. I’m cool with that. Watch some of the games Chinook, not just the boxscore, highlights and advanced stats.

[The Truth #6]

Duren would have to be a center from what I've seen. I can't tell how skilled he is, on offense at least. Meaning, is he completely unskilled or does he have very brief glimpses of something more because I haven't seen much. I kind of think he's overrated as far as being a top 7 pick. Hoping for Bam seems unrealistic but I'm open to being convinced otherwise.

[spurraider21]

Bertans isn't a defensive liability though. He can stay with folks on the perimeter and is an underrated off ball rim protector.

let this one go, scrah

[SPURt]

Boucher is 29 already, not exactly "younger." Not sure he is a good fit with Jak either considering he's been hoisting six three pointers a game at a 29% clip this season

Dang, I thought Boucher was younger. Welp, I guess Smith it is

[The Truth #6]

Spurs Talk Guide to Interpreting G-League Stats


If they are doing poorly but you like the player. See #3
If they are doing well but you don't like the player. See #2
If they are doing poorly and you dislike the player. See #4
If they are doing well and you like the player. See #1

1. Dude, he's ripping it up! He's going to be awesome. Heard it here first.
2. Whatever. My grandmother get could a triple double in the G-League.
3. It's foolish to read too much into the stats. Counting stats without context. He's young. Give him time. This is his first time to get professional coaching.
4. He's supposed to our next star? ing bust! His growth plates are probably sealed shut.

[mo7888]

Duren would have to be a center from what I've seen. I can't tell how skilled he is, on offense at least. Meaning, is he completely unskilled or does he have very brief glimpses of something more because I haven't seen much. I kind of think he's overrated as far as being a top 7 pick. Hoping for Bam seems unrealistic but I'm open to being convinced otherwise.

I have to squint but I can see some of the Bam comparisons... but, it's the college Bam and not the one we see now... Duren doesn't look like he has a broken shot or anything and he's Uber athletic... he's got a chance to develop a face up game with range but, I don't think anyone should just expect it to happen...

[Biggems]

Ever since Timmy retired the PF position has been eradicated from the NBA

[scott]

"Let's trade a lottery pick for a G-leaguer who can't break into his team despite the need" is this spring's hottest new "we made a mistake by trading Luka because he is tearing it up in the G league but can't break into his team despite the need"

[PhantomDashCam]

"Let's trade a lottery pick for a G-leaguer who can't break into his team despite the need" is this spring's hottest new "we made a mistake by trading Luka because he is tearing it up in the G league but can't break into his team despite the need"

It was one guy, (me), suggesting this. Your opinion is firmly against it, like seemingly everybody who has read/posted here. Cool.

Considering you've gotten worked up over one trade suggestion, in a thread led "The Power Forward position", without offering an insight or perspective of your own, is hilarious.

I'm not the GM bud. It'll be OK. Most likely it won't happen.

[Ditty]

Jovic in the draft.

[BackHome]

Draft and stash

[Mr. Body]

Minny were killing us on the boards. Need some help badly.