Yeah, i’m pretty confident he actually is injured as there was no reason not to give him a look down the stretch of this season. Tough to have a view on Langford at this point. Normally, willingness to be a scrappy and prideful defender gets you a shot to show your worth so I wouldn’t count him out just yet. He was a pretty highly touted HS player. He is easily a much better athlete than Primo. I actually think those two will be battling for the 5th guard next year. He could also easily be a throw in for salary matching purposes on what should he an active draft day/free agency period.
Our 19 year old didn’t have to be on the list if was afforded time to sit and learn! Pop saw fit to throw him in the fire ( I agree with the strategy ) and understands stats mean nothing in year 1 for this young man!! Primo will be bigger, better, stronger, and wiser next year. Let Lonnie go and sign Malik Monk……
They see Langford in practice…..trust they know his skill set!
Lonnie unliked all the tweets about his playing time. Lonnie is coming back. Book it.
This, coupled with himself saying that he was unlikely to recover fully from the back injury by the play in timeline and that he was just going to have to play through the pain. Some fans may have missed that interview he gave understandably.
I want Lonnie back if the price is good. I think Lonnie should be given a prove it contract. His ability to score that he unlocked this year finally is really worth having on a bench.
lol that says the opposite to me. He was obviously pissed and did what the younger generation does when upset… take to social media. Unliking doesn’t get him a new deal, the fact that he liked that to begin with is another reason to think long hard before offering him one.
Dude is not that good…….. journeyman type in my opinion
Primo has been very underwhelming. I am just shying away from criticism until next season. He got playing time in his rookie year and the Spurs being a bad team, they need to start testing their first round lottery-picked rookies early. These are not TimmyD Spurs anymore. If they find a star-diamond in the rough- we’ll see some things early to get excited about and Primo didn’t show it but he may still improve a lot from current state.
He’s too young to say much. His shot, the one thing I was most excited about with him has been reworked and he might have hit some rookie wall as a result. Next season should be more telling for me. But I am not excited about him like I was with Dejounte, who even as wildly as he played with the bad handles and so skinny as he was his rookie season, had a quickness about him and a first step that made me think he had potential to be somebody in the league if he improved, and he had some good games in his rookie season to get excited about. Primo hasn’t shown that but he’s too young for me to condemn him, so young he could have just been in college this entire season and still be young for this draft. I don’t know that he’d be drafted any higher than he was anyways. Spurs gambled on his youth, so we need to give him time. I am glad he played, got experience, a list of things to work on, and the time to do it under the tutelage of team coaches. Next season will be more telling for me.
Murray is a good combo guard……we need a dynamic point guard. I still say trade him while his stock his high.
I think if he wanted to leave or wanted to change teams he would have kept his stupid likes. It does make him look dumb, maybe his agent told him to unlike them. Not a fan of Lonnie and I hope he is gone. It scares me he isn’t because he did play well for that stretch. I think Spurs give him a long term deal.
Go look at pictures of Primo on draft night. He looks like young Chris Rock. Then look at pictures from late in the season, and he's clearly filled out some. We will have a much better idea what Primo is made of this fall. If he's bigger/stronger and showing more confidence from having a full season under his belt, the numbers will come.
Like all of us in life he probably just wants to get paid. Hopefully it isn’t us who cuts the cheque.
Definitely, I was disappointed with his selection initially bc I didn’t know who he was, then when I saw him he looked like a baby. I just knew he was going to need time to grow into his own. He literally looked like a high schooler. I actually wanted Pop to play him early bc he needs the experience and the team was terrible to start. If they were going to be losing games I’d rather see Primo out there than Bryn Forbes, it was that kind of situation. But I don’t think I can draw much from what we saw. He’s bigger than when he came in and has things to work on. Defensively he’s better than expected.
Next season we’ll see. I expect that he’ll be better. He’s too young to not improve if he’s working to get better. Still in an upward arc with him.
The big issue with LWIV, bar none, is his efficiency. He had an EFG% of .480, which is serious garbage.
He took 46% of his attempts from beyond the arc. If he was afraid to jack them up, we would be complaining about that, too. But with a 3P% of .314, that's grounds for divorce.
The thing that surprised me when I looked just now is that his FGA/100 possessions is second only to DJ. Murray shoots 25.2 per 100 vs 22.7 for Lonnie. So when he's on the floor, he's settling - the whole team is settling. I don't know if a good backup PG would help that, or if he's just a black hole.
^ On another note and on topic about Lonnie, I am assuming his minutes were reduced because he has a back back. Pop was resting him to end the season and Lonnie himself said he wasn’t fully recovered before the season ended. It was something he’d have to play through. I thought he did well considering.
OTOH, he’s not a game changer and since the team is flush with draft picks, roster turnover is expected. It seems incredible to say but Bryn Forbes had a longer leash and was fed more minutes than Lonnie was. Even while Bryn was kind of a Pop favorite, Pop eventually moved on from him - twice - so I think the less preferred son (Lonnie) likely signs elsewhere but I can’t be sure.
I'm not making an argument to keep Lonnie because I think he's good right now. I think this is what most people are missing. I'm not even making the argument that if you keep Lonnie, most times he turns out to be a good NBA player. This Spurs team likely doesn't need to worry about the cap implications of giving Lonnie a small short term contract and if they do this summer because they need that cap space for someone else then they shouldn't keep him. But my argument is that Lonnie has shown enough and has such high level athleticism that the Spurs should keep him on the significant chance - even if not likely chance - that he turns out to be a very good NBA offensive player due to his potential.
What are the Spurs giving up if they go this route? If the answer is nothing, and its very likely to be nothing, then they should do it and hope for the best. I just don't see what the opportunity cost of keeping him and hoping what he showed this season is actually real is.
^ FOMO
I don't disagree at all. And I definitely don't hate Lonnie. I really do think his biggest problems could be helped by coaching. Partly to get him to quit snapping off quite so many 3's, and partly just putting a better backup PG on the floor so maybe he doesn't feel like he has to. I don't think it would take much to at least get his efficiency out of the gutter.
They’re giving up a roster spot for a better player. The team would improve with a good forward in that roster spot.
And still talking about a player’s potential at the end of his fourth year is silly.
I don't think anyone on this roster is un-tradeable. I'd move Murray in a second if it meant making this team better. You're right about his stock being high after making the All-Star team. Even though he put up good numbers, I thought his selection was nothing more than a generous gesture and probably influenced by his talent agency and PR..
Yeah no player ever improves after their fourth year. The fact that a Spurs fan is saying this after this year is laughable.
Lots of players improve after their fourth years.
If you're going to fill out a 15 man roster with every player being better than Lonnie, then cool.
I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.
If you’re still talking about a player’s potential after he’s been in the league four years, then you are a fool.
Lots of players improve after their fourth years.
But the word was not “improve” was it, you lying dumpwad.
If you're going to fill out a 15 man roster with every player being better than Lonnie, then cool.
How’s about one player better than Lonnie, who plays forward? Are you cool with that?
You do know that the team needs forwards, don’t you? Or is that news to you?
Not silly at all. He was drafted at 19 and missed a lot of time his rookie year. Development of youth is never linear. Lonnie in the second half showed true growth on the offensive end. If you can bring him back in a team friendly deal IMO you do it.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote