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    Isn't Koloko a horrible defensive rebounder? I think there was some tournament coverage about that. I like him other than that
    You maybe right as he's not a beast on the boards, he's more in my list for his rim protection and i have him after Duren, Williams and Kessler.

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    Want is one thing, but anyone who thinks there's a legitimate chance of them drafting Duren or Eason is naive at best, delusional at worst and setting themselves up for disappointment.

    This is the most predictable organization in the league (Primo was a surprise only because of projections) and they've only gotten more strict with their constraints post S bag.

    If they can't move up for Murray, be prepared for another guard/wing (Griffin, Davis, Daniels, Branham), with Sochan a long shot.

    I can see the Spurs going this way , i can also see the spurs taking sochan high. Will depend on a lot of things but i really think that after the top 4 the order is not set.

    If i read you correctly, you think that after the top 4 the picks are Duren, Murray , Mathurin and .. another guy. Don't forget Sharpe, Griffin can be in the top 8...

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    I like Sochan with any of our picks…..

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    I can see the Spurs going this way , i can also see the spurs taking sochan high. Will depend on a lot of things but i really think that after the top 4 the order is not set.

    If i read you correctly, you think that after the top 4 the picks are Duren, Murray , Mathurin and .. another guy. Don't forget Sharpe, Griffin can be in the top 8...
    It's not that I don't think there's a good chance Duren will be available to them, it's that he's literally the an hesis of their preferred type of big.

    Also, it could have spoke more to how high they are on Primo than anything else, but passing on Sengun and signing Collins was a sign to me that they, like many, won't be drafting projected non superstar/star bigs period in the lottery and maybe even beyond in the 1st round.

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    It's not that I don't think there's a good chance Duren will be available to them, it's that he's literally the an hesis of their preferred type of big.

    Also, it could have spoke more to how high they are on Primo than anything else, but passing on Sengun and signing Collins was a sign to me that they, like many, won't be drafting projected non superstar/star bigs period in the lottery and maybe even beyond in the 1st round.
    Agreed. I personally like Duren better as a prospect (higher upside; defensive anchor potential), but I think Spurs would draft Sochan or Tari Eason over him if all three were available.

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    It's not that I don't think there's a good chance Duren will be available to them, it's that he's literally the an hesis of their preferred type of big.

    Also, it could have spoke more to how high they are on Primo than anything else, but passing on Sengun and signing Collins was a sign to me that they, like many, won't be drafting projected non superstar/star bigs period in the lottery and maybe even beyond in the 1st round.

    Ok that make sense, assuming they draft 3 players you think they will not/can't take a big with one of their late first ? we need one defensive big badly imo.

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    Agreed. I personally like Duren better as a prospect (higher upside; defensive anchor potential), but I think Spurs would draft Sochan or Tari Eason over him if all three were available.
    Eason isn't their type either.


    Ok that make sense, assuming they draft 3 players you think they will not/can't take a big with one of their late first ? we need one defensive big badly imo.
    I'd be shocked if they maintained the 3 1sts. The way I see it, they'll probably either retain Poeltl or trade him and replace him with Hartenstein and are committed to Collins for the time being.

    The defensive help will presumably come in the form of a legitimate four.

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    Eason isn't their type either.
    He’s the best defender in this draft class (ratings-wise; not just my opinion) and would immediately fill a position of need.. I can’t promise you they’re going to take him, but I can guarantee you they’re very interested and are doing their due diligence on him.

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    Sochan is almost a full 2 years younger than Eason so the Spurs may lean in his direction. Either would be a solid pick at 9 though imo. Both project as role-players at the next level unfortunately, but as much as I want someone with more potential star power, I don’t see anyone else available at 9 unless someone like Mathurin falls.

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    Sochan is almost a full 2 years younger than Eason so the Spurs may lean in his direction. Either would be a solid pick at 9 though imo. Both project as role-players at the next level unfortunately, but as much as I want someone with more potential star power, I don’t see anyone else available at 9 unless someone like Mathurin falls.

    Unless someone like Moody falls…

    Unless someone like Sengun falls…

    Unless someone like Kai Jones falls…

    Unless someone like Jalen Johnson falls…

    (these are all guys who fell from projected mocks)

    Someone will fall. The question is if the Spurs will even want them.

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    For those of you who are up to speed on international ball, specifically Europe, what is your assessment of SG Gabriele Procida - Italy?

    I am curious because he is our 2nd round pick in the NBA Draft Room mock. I saw some videos of him and he is quite athletic, plays good defense, has solid handles, and is a decent passer. He plays with a lot of energy and hustles all over the floor. He really goes after the offensive glass. He seems to be one of the most important players on his team. I believe he is right handed. If he were left-handed his game would remind me of a young Ginobili-lite. I liked his energy and confidence in the videos I watched. BTW, he is 19 yo.

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    SI had a surprisingly in-depth mock draft just released.

    https://www.si.com/nba/2022/04/14/nb...ero-jaden-ivey

    For me I still like Jeremy Sochan as the pick. A good comparison I always thought of was Patrick Williams from Chicago. This SI mock compares Sochan to Williams but also mentions Scottie Barnes. I can see some similarities there although Sochan doesn't look like the passer Barnes is but seems a better shooter.

    I could also live with Ben Mathurin but then you have a logjam at the 2-3 position. Not a fan of AJ Griffin or Johnny Davis tbh. Dyson Daniels seems a good prospect but his game is best suited to having the ball in his hands, and his 3 point shot is poor. You can't play these guys next to Murray and Poeltl.

    Seems like Mark Williams is closing in on Jalen Duren as the first C off the board in a lot of mock drafts recently. Dude has a 7'7 wingspan and a 9''8 standing reach which is an inch longer than Gobert.

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    I really like the kid he has a sweet 3 ball and he has NBA athleticism in spades definitely someone I would not mind them picking at all. Out of the foreign draft and stash I looked at him, Hugo Besson, Ousemeng Dieng, and Nikola Jovic , and would not mind any of those players with one of our first. Though I am leaning to Ousemeng Dieng SF - 6'9 - he play was terrible in beginning of season but at end of the season you could see he made huge strides and definitely can see potential in him....

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    SI had a surprisingly in-depth mock draft just released.

    https://www.si.com/nba/2022/04/14/nb...ero-jaden-ivey

    For me I still like Jeremy Sochan as the pick. A good comparison I always thought of was Patrick Williams from Chicago. This SI mock compares Sochan to Williams but also mentions Scottie Barnes. I can see some similarities there although Sochan doesn't look like the passer Barnes is but seems a better shooter.
    Sochan is nowhere near the athlete Scottie Barnes is, he's a more cerebral player. He's a better passer and ball handler, an improving shooter (though he has ways to go yet), but he can't match Scottie Barnes one on one impact and he doesn't have his ceiling. I can see him providing a Draymond Green kind of contribution to a winning team.

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    Sochan is nowhere near the athlete Scottie Barnes is, he's a more cerebral player. He's a better passer and ball handler, an improving shooter (though he has way to go yet), but he can't match Scottie Barnes one on one impact and he doesn't have his ceiling. I can see him providing a Draymond Green kind of contribution to a winning team.
    Sochan is really smart player for his age, but he is limited as he is not a shot blocker and his free throw % is very poor the first thing they will have to do is rebuild his shot. But he is crafty and he is a good passer has good handles and is a young guy they can mold and Pop would love the kid for sure as he would probably be first rookie he doesn't yell out for doing something stupid on defense..lol

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    I’m concerned Sochan and Eason could end up as Jamychal Green, Morris twins types and that’s not worth a lottery selection imo. Take the best player available regardless of position, Johnny Davis, AJ Griffin, Jalen Duren, Mathurin, Dyson

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    Sochan is really smart player for his age, but he is limited as he is not a shot blocker and his free throw % is very poor the first thing they will have to do is rebuild his shot. But he is crafty and he is a good passer has good handles and is a young guy they can mold and Pop would love the kid for sure as he would probably be first rookie he doesn't yell out for doing something stupid on defense..lol
    Yes, his 3 pt% is around 30% and I saw him hit some big ones, but his FT % is awful (around the 60% mark). Good thing is he doesn't seem to have a mental block like Simmons or other players. I'd be willing to bet on him improving on it.

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    SI had a surprisingly in-depth mock draft just released.

    https://www.si.com/nba/2022/04/14/nb...ero-jaden-ivey

    For me I still like Jeremy Sochan as the pick. A good comparison I always thought of was Patrick Williams from Chicago. This SI mock compares Sochan to Williams but also mentions Scottie Barnes. I can see some similarities there although Sochan doesn't look like the passer Barnes is but seems a better shooter.

    I could also live with Ben Mathurin but then you have a logjam at the 2-3 position. Not a fan of AJ Griffin or Johnny Davis tbh. Dyson Daniels seems a good prospect but his game is best suited to having the ball in his hands, and his 3 point shot is poor. You can't play these guys next to Murray and Poeltl.

    Seems like Mark Williams is closing in on Jalen Duren as the first C off the board in a lot of mock drafts recently. Dude has a 7'7 wingspan and a 9''8 standing reach which is an inch longer than Gobert.
    Yeah, if we do for what ever reason move Poodle then I would have no problem picking Williams he is real good and I think he has more upside then what he showed in college on the offensive side. But, like DJ said it all depends on who drops as someone always drops will it be the player we want is the question???

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    I’m concerned Sochan and Eason could end up as Jamychal Green, Morris twins types and that’s not worth a lottery selection imo. Take the best player available regardless of position, Johnny Davis, AJ Griffin, Jalen Duren, Mathurin, Dyson
    we'll be the first team in history to start 5 shooting guards.

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    What are your all thoughts on Jamarion Sharp from W. Kentucky? He is a 20 year old 7'5 center YES that is correct 7'5 - If you have not watched him play I think you all might be surprised he is very athletic for some one that size and he can dunk..lol ..Serious though watch him..........

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    we'll be the first team in history to start 5 shooting guards.
    We’ve got 3 picks in the first round lol use the 20/21 Tor pick and grab Liddel, Jovic, or Dieng

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    Probably a poor take but I kinda want Kenneth Lofton Jr. for the 2RP (38th) if available. He's one of the reason why Team USA won over Team France last year in FIBA U19 Finals.



    - A situational type of player and it's something you would not mind if he fails since it's a 2RP
    - On offense, he could be a problem for opposing end in the post (or shooting) esp. when playing small ball but not sure about his passing ability tho
    - On defense, lacking mobility so he's create a space for opposing team tho he's a bit mobile for his size but lacking height and if he trims more down or conditioned like Zach Randolph (he's 6'9" tho while Kenneth Lofton Jr. is only 6'7"), it could be a rewarding


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    Probably a poor take but I kinda want Kenneth Lofton Jr. for the 2RP (38th) if available. He's one of the reason why Team USA won over Team France last year in FIBA U19 Finals.

    That dude makes Zion look malnourished... can you image him next to Chet?

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    SI had a surprisingly in-depth mock draft just released.

    https://www.si.com/nba/2022/04/14/nb...ero-jaden-ivey

    For me I still like Jeremy Sochan as the pick. A good comparison I always thought of was Patrick Williams from Chicago. This SI mock compares Sochan to Williams but also mentions Scottie Barnes. I can see some similarities there although Sochan doesn't look like the passer Barnes is but seems a better shooter.

    I could also live with Ben Mathurin but then you have a logjam at the 2-3 position. Not a fan of AJ Griffin or Johnny Davis tbh. Dyson Daniels seems a good prospect but his game is best suited to having the ball in his hands, and his 3 point shot is poor. You can't play these guys next to Murray and Poeltl.

    Seems like Mark Williams is closing in on Jalen Duren as the first C off the board in a lot of mock drafts recently. Dude has a 7'7 wingspan and a 9''8 standing reach which is an inch longer than Gobert.
    There is some good analysis in the SI piece. I now understand, for example, why Eason appears lower on mocks. If you. If you believe this he’d be around in the low 20s.

    Everyone wants us to take Davis it appears with our natural pick. I’m lukewarm, but I do like Wendell Moore at 20.

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    I hate that the draft is so far away lol

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