Think his spot on the team just depends. THink it depends on other moves and price/years for Lonnie. Could easily see him stay or go.
Sad to say no one can attack the rim like him on the team. We could offer him something like 4 yrs around 36 to 40 with the last 2 being team options. 2 years later will be the time that KJ and DJ get paid. He can be used as a spark plug. Although we have players who can play the 2/3 like DV, JR and Primo they are relatively similar to each other. Having said that I am not sorry to see him go either.
Agreed. First half of the season I expected them to let him walk. He's finally got a role and the right guy mentoring him for it.
Per ESPN Stats & Information, Walker ranked just 98th in effective field goal percentage among 108 players to record 50 games played and 10 attempts per game. He had the second-highest usage rate on the team (behind Murray) but has seen his role go from a starter to reserve.
If he did not half the hot streak he would be close to the most inefficient high usage guy in the league. Forbes better.
I think the way Pop tried to use him as a backup facilitator in the beginning should be considered. He is not a facilitator but a SG. The emergence of Tre as the better backup facilitator, and White’s departure giving more scoring responsibilities and opportunities helped define Lonnie’s role more, and he responded with 20 points productions. I truly believe Lonnie has made that turn, plus Manu working on him, should improve him more going forward. He’s a 20 points spark plug any given night. I think that’s plenty for a 6th man. And for a 6th man price, I would be happy to watch Lonnie continue playing as a Spur.
Backup facilitator? that was White before Tre.
Honestly the more I think about this, the more I am convinced he’s gone, played his last game as a Spur. It’s a combination of not having developed well enough and what should be his goal, which is to get paid. Spurs obviously made him a smaller offer than he wanted when his extension was up, and he hasn’t played that much better since then. I think him and the team won’t agree on $ and he’ll get his bag elsewhere.
There’s a small chance he’s back, but it’s a less than 50% chance for me.
I'm pretty much in that camp too... we can also use the roster spot..
Malik Monk …… get him!
I also think so... But that said it's painfully obvious that he is the only one on this team with a first step fast enough to create an offensive miss match... Aka, for the offense, the most important quality of a guard that's a play off player...
Yeah, he's probably gone. The tweet issue doesn't help his cause. It's weird but probably telling that he was playing somewhat well last game and still didn't get more playing time. I get Walker's frustration. But I think Pop is more committed to other players already at this point.
Yeah, it's a numbers game and with 4 draft picks (whether they are kept or not) and cap space, he is likely gone.
what would you say is a good fair return for him? the most I think we could get would be a 2 mid first. typically rebuilding teams with high draft picks dont want players even of his caliber. Dont know how much younger player we would get but he would not be as good. This is not me condemning Murray. I think he can be a number 1 player and is a lot closer then people realize. Its just people see that he is getting recognized and think we could get some huge package back for him.
He has always been inconsistent. When your best stretch is 7 games long that is not much. that was his best stretch I could find. He does not provide much beside scoring. People talk about him going off in the 2nd half of the season but it was really just 7 games. people see some plays and they like it so think he is good.
It is not always about finding players that are currently better then him. some is higher upside. some is team needs. some is already under contract and want to see what they have to offer and lonnie not produceing in time given. some is team needs. We dont have have FA this year and have 4 picks 3 first rounds. I dont get why people call a MLE contract a team friendly contract. its more then his Quallyifying offer. If we wanted to keep him we could just do that and I bet no team goes after him.
Lonnie's qualifying offer is 6.3 million. That's the most I'd be willing to offer. If any team is offering 1 dollar more, I wouldn't match
The problem is, his cap hold is double that, so if you have plans for your cap room besides renting it, you really need to sign him cheaply, or renounce him in like 48 hours.
Yes this point is often missed. Another reason a sign and trade is very unlikely. That cap hold is going to tie your hands in the early hours of free agency. As TIMVP noted what happens draft day will likely put the nail in the coffin but he is already laying in it as we speak. They have till June 29th to extend his QO or renounce him.
Unless we jump into the top 4 and draft Ivey, I think they’ll extend the QO. It’s kind of a doorstop to hold his rights in the short term to see if he can be a component in a trade. I don’t think anyone would trade for just him. Maybe LWIV on a cheap contract could be the enticement to take McDs contract.
I kinda don't buy the notion that he dramatically improved in the second half of the season. If you look at his splits-- https://www.basketball-reference.com.../splits/2022-- it just doesn't seem to be the case. He was actually less impactful in February and March than he was in November, December, & January. I think if Walker started for a 25-57 team next year he might average 18-20 ppg, but unfortunately they'd still be a 25-57 team. I'd rather trade for Paul Reed or give a minimum contract to Jaylen Hoard and hope he becomes an average 11th/12th man on the squad, though signing Walker to a reasonable contract does also give the Spurs the ability to match salary in any potential future trades.
Let him walk tbh and draft a replacement player that isn’t soft or inconsistent. I really like Branham if we could grab him with the Tor pick.
Yup. They can find his replacement in the draft.
Besides - Nice guy. But it appears Walker is too dumb to play Spurs basketball. Based on the play in game coaching staff looks like they’re over the Walker experience.
yeah i know but this free Agent class is weak. I don’t see the Spurs making any kind of splash, but I‘m not mad if he‘s gone
What do we think Lonnie’s market is, seriously?
Thinking it’s about 36/4y (Alex Caruso money last be year)
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I expect Walker will be back and Poeltl will not be traded.
Spurs are going to roll out the same core of a team with the addition of Sochan.
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