I have a feeling Ousmane Dieng is going to fly up the draftboard and I could honestly see him being the spurs guy at 9
Yes I know how big he is.Hence I mentioned about his weight/conditioning.
I have a feeling Ousmane Dieng is going to fly up the draftboard and I could honestly see him being the spurs guy at 9
I said it before: If the Spurs can see him improving from deep, they should take a flyer on Jaylin Williams from Arkansas with the Lakers pick or the Boston one. Great size (6‘ 10‘‘, 240), high impact on defense, good passer, low usage and a team player. This guy has written Spurs all over him. His 3p-% is bad, but he could improve with Chip‘s help.
PTS 10,9
REB 9,8
AST 2,6
BLK 1,1
STL 1,3
Charges 1,5
Last edited by ragas; 04-14-2022 at 11:07 PM.
I don't know about 9 but I agree he going to rise very fast on a lot of GM draft boards - It's funny how he was terrible in the beginning of season but then was able to turn it around so fast.
He is another smart player I think he is like number 1 in college as far as taking charges so he definitely plays defense - and he has good ball IQ and a nifty passer - he is another player I see rising in in draft boards
Williams would be a good pick in the second round for a 2 way contract.
Someone mentioned the international prospect from Italy name Gabriel Procida and no one responded to his post. I previously watched film on Procida before the post was made and agree that this guy has true NBA potential. I would draft him with our Toronto or Boston 1st round picks because he may not make it to the 2nd round. Seems like a game changer. Has the 3 ball, athletic, defensive instincts, hops, court vision, ball handling and good size for a G/F. Spurs should draft if available with their 2nd 1st round pick.
Was that poster you burner account? And, is that you Gabriel?
Sochan (spurs pick) - let Vassell, Keldon, Primo continue to grow as shooters, Sochan provides the connector as well as versatile defender; he'll have just turned 19 around draft day so plenty of potential; shooting splits look questionable but that's what people said about Scottie Barnes last year too; if he turns into a Draymond/Ben simmons type player that's a huge win
Mark Williams (raptors pick) - length (7'7" wingspan), defensive presence, better mobility than advertised, future defensive anchor, all on the timetable of the young core; would think about sacrificing second rounder or even Poeltl to bring this guy in
PBJ (Celtics pick) - take a flyer on this guy, tall shooters are usually a decent gamble to be useful in the league
I've been seeing a lot of suggestion on guys who are not projected to be drafted at all, or players with a low ceiling and a lot of question marks. IMO that's not what you use your second rounder for, at all. Bear in mind that we're getting to the point were roster spots will be getting scarce and they are a commodity, since they provide flexibility and allow for moves that get you further assets. That means there's a cost of opportunity in using it, which means if you're going to do so, they have to be worthy enough to warrant:
a) The player whose roster spot they're taking
b) The flexibility that roster spot provides in future moves
c) The value that pick would get you were you to trade it
So there's no point in using them, unless:
1) you really like what you're getting, either because there's significant potential, or they're ready to contribute now and are a lock to translate. That kind would be someone who unexpectedly falls quite a bit, say a Baldwin Jr, a Hardy, a Koloko, a Blake Wesley... The kind you expecto to go 10/15 places earlier and falls into your lap.
2) you're not really certain, but you're willing to gamble because they won't take a roster spot immediately, i.e., the classic draft & stash. In this category I could see a Dieng, a Kamagate, a Procida... even if you're not 100% sold, they're young, they don't cost you, and they may end up a pleasant surprise a few years down the road.
So I think those fringe guys are just not worthy of the cost of making a place for them.
Also... I think the FO is likely to try and use one or more of the picks to climb up in the draft, to get other assets, or to push it forward into the future if nothing else works.
Last edited by Ariel; 04-15-2022 at 08:55 AM.
Procida looks like the real deal. Possibly the best shooting stroke in the draft along with athleticism and smoothness. He can handle the ball and go to the hoop with a nice amount of adjustment on the fly. Upside and a pretty high floor. He's a little older than some (almost 20) but he looks like he might become something. I'm surprised he's not higher on most of the mocks.
By comparison, he looks a lot better than some of those being touted as second rounders (or even higher).
Shaedon Sharpe if the Spurs can't make a trade to move up and get Ivey. Sharpe has the potential to be a future superstar Dr. J type of player.
Spurs need to draft for top potential future upside at the 9th position.
I can almost guarantee you that Duren/Williams will be Charlotte's pick. They've been eagerly looking to fill that hole since last year RE: Kai Jones.
No, no where near the upside of a player like Shaedon Sharpe.
Shaedon Sharpe may not declare, and if he does, likely will be off the board by then. Honestly I haven't seen anything other than a few clips, but if he does declare, the Spurs are impressed with him in workouts, and he's available, it would make sense to nab a potential star. But that means you have to make other deals to address the forward situation, probably giving up Poeltl / Richardson / picks / whatever... maybe even Vassell or Keldon Johnson. You can't have half the roster comprised of shooting guards.
Well... one is supposed to be a top 6 pick, the other a second rounder... so yeah...
I think so too... one glaring hole at center and too many options available not to grab one. Duren will likely be gone, if not they'll pick him for sure. But Williams would seem like a perfect fit. Unless they want IMMEDIATE results, in which case they may be willing to give up the pick and assets for Poeltl, which they weren't willing to do at the last trade deadline which is why the deal fell through. Say PJ Washington + the pick / Kai Jones + the pick + filler or something along the lines. I'd like that scenario.
Last edited by Ariel; 04-15-2022 at 10:32 AM.
Interesting article about Johnny Davis: https://www.si.com/college/2022/01/2...ll-daily-cover
I can see traits the Spurs would like: quiet intensity, uber compe or, plays intense defense, overlooked early and had to prove himself, keeps his composure, gym rat, somewhat of a nerd maybe and liked studying anthropology in college. Will he be a good pro? I don't know. But I like those traits generally speaking.
I'd prefer a higher pick and other players, but I'd probably take this guy over Duren, for example, who seems to be unskilled and would flounder in SA's style of play in my opinion.
Not locked in on Davis, but there's a chance he could fall.
I completely agree, when I watch him he has an IT factor to me, I don’t think he’ll fail at the next level. Lots of interesting guys in this draft and I think after the top 4, it’ll be a shuffle between who teams like and don’t like
Last edited by Degoat; 04-15-2022 at 11:49 AM.
I would just add that there are 2 two way contract spots that a potential second round pick would not have to compete with someone over. If the Spurs keep their second round pick, they may go the Wieskamp route again. He was drafted at 41 but was was projected to go late in the first round on some mock drafts.
It sounds like Sharpe is going to declare. I don’t think he is making it past the Kings unfortunately. I don’t know about Dieng going 9th but could see OKC love for international prospects reaching for him at 15. I would take a risk on him forsure with one of our 20 picks.
1. Paolo Banchero
2. Jabari Smith
3. Chet Holmgren
4. Jaden Ivey
5. Keegan Murray
6. Shaedon Sharpe
7. Benedict Mathurin
8. AJ Griffin
9. Jalen Duren
That's my top 9(in order)... Davis would round out my top 10 and that's where I think there's a drop off with not much difference between 11 and 18.
So one of those 9 'should' be there when we pick..
Unless we pick 10th or 11th...
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That's why I ' ' the word should..
People are so lazy. We’ve drafted like 1 Euro since 2015. We don’t do that much, any more.
You have to think Jaylin is smart enough to return to school and try to improve his game when he’s graded as a 2nd Rounder by most mocks.
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