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    The US isn't running laps around anyone in that department.
    Sure it is. Compared to who?

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    youre still triggered,,,thread owns you,,,
    Old Joe is your daddy... you'll never recover from det one...

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    "Superpower" military getting its ass kicked.



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    Sure it is. Compared to who?
    In 2020 the debt to GDP was 133% for the US. Our façade of financial stability comes from mass consumerism and debt. Being that far in debt for anyone doesn't equate to financial stability.

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    Just by the numbers, yes, russian military is on par with china and usa, or at least, they were some two month ago. But majority of that equipment is is half a century or more old, and unmaintained. Also a command structure is the same thay had in WWII. That makes russian military the 2022 lakers, contenders on paper, but a lottery team in action.

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    Mariupol is all but fallen.

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    In 2020 the debt to GDP was 133% for the US. Our façade of financial stability comes from mass consumerism and debt. Being that far in debt for anyone doesn't equate to financial stability.
    No, our financial stability comes from the fact that our debt is entirely in US dollars, and we boast the largest GDP in the world. This is something the US engineered post World War II in large part for being the winner of that conflict, and because the US Dollar has been historically the most stable currency in the world (and still is today, thus why I was asking compared to who...).

    This is why world commerce is done in US dollars, which in turns makes the US dollar the reserve currency all around the world, and whoever tries to undermine it end up shooting themselves in the foot.

    See: Russia trying to pay it's debt in Rubles and getting laughed at, despite that their debt to GDP ratio is small (their economy is minuscule as well, even smaller than Germany).

    Except for an artificial and largely political barrier of "the debt ceiling", there's no scenario where the US cannot pay it's debt. That's not the case with other countries in the world. This is important to understand, because when you see a country entering in default, it's because they can't pay back their debts in US dollars.

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    No, our financial stability comes from the fact that our debt is entirely in US dollars, and we boast the largest GDP in the world. This is something the US engineered post World War II in large part for being the winner of that conflict, and because the US Dollar has been historically the most stable currency in the world (and still is today, thus why I was asking compared to who...).

    This is why world commerce is done in US dollars, which in turns makes the US dollar the reserve currency all around the world, and whoever tries to undermine it end up shooting themselves in the foot.

    See: Russia trying to pay it's debt in Rubles and getting laughed at, despite that their debt to GDP ratio is small (their economy is minuscule as well, even smaller than Germany).

    Except for an artificial and largely political barrier of "the debt ceiling", there's no scenario where the US cannot pay it's debt. That's not the case with other countries in the world. This is important to understand, because when you see a country entering in default, it's because they can't pay back their debts in US dollars.
    Stupidity at its best,,,,

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    Just by the numbers, yes, russian military is on par with china and usa, or at least, they were some two month ago. But majority of that equipment is is half a century or more old, and unmaintained. Also a command structure is the same thay had in WWII. That makes russian military the 2022 lakers, contenders on paper, but a lottery team in action.
    Russia has the numbers, but it was always suspect simply because:

    1) Their largest investment comes from the Soviet era, and that was a long time ago.
    2) They are a small economy that doesn't really produce much at all, thus doesn't really give them a large budget for the military and are very reliant on foreign parts.
    3) Their biggest threat is nuclear, but crossing into a nuclear attack, especially against Europe/NATO, means they're effectively done as a country. This is why nuclear deterrence is no longer what it used to be.
    4) Because they have very dated equipment, they've been very reliant in trains, roads, etc, which in turns makes logistics very complicated the furthest they get away from their country. This isn't new either, but it's been made much worse with the availability of UAVs and the like which can really sever supply lines quickly. This is also why Mariupol is crucial for them, and you would think taking the eastern side of Ukraine should be substantially easier for them as well.

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    Stupidity at its best,,,,
    ^^^ lol triggered

    When is China asking for their money back?

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    Post pics, Nono like your daddy Thread taught you,,,,put up the Biden licking an ice cream cone,,,Thread is a trend setter,,,,
    I set trends.

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    Mariupol is all but fallen.
    Horse . I wouldn't trust 'em as far as I could throw 'em if I were Putin.

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    Thread the trend setter,,,,making the braindead democrats on here now post pics in response like he started.
    tee, hee!!!

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    Just by the numbers, yes, russian military is on par with china and usa, or at least, they were some two month ago. But majority of that equipment is is half a century or more old, and unmaintained. Also a command structure is the same thay had in WWII. That makes russian military the 2022 lakers, contenders on paper, but a lottery team in action.
    Then there are the logistics. Amatuers like DMC like to think about numbers of troops and tanks.

    Professionals look at boring mundane things like pre-cast concrete structures.

    UKR can do this.

    RUS that is "on par with the US and China" [ ] cannot.


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    Another thing that professional military experts notice, but posers like DMC do not:

    Palletization and Cranes on cargo trucks to facilitate loading and unloading.



    RUS trucks are vastly less efficient per unit of time, because every one of them has to be manually unloaded.

    AND has to stay still long enough to be unloaded.

    UKR civilian camera drone sending pictures back to artillery platoon: [glowing superpower eyes]

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    FWIW: Russia has lost. They just don't realize it yet.

    No computer chips, means no replacements for anything more sophisticated than a sony playstation 2.

    No complicated machine parts.

    The Russian economy is vastly LESS capable of anything than the USSR was in 1991.

    They are losing troops eight times faster than UKR is, and at a rate they cannot sustain without sending in completely untrained conscripts, which will make that ratio worse.

    They will lose a war of attrition.

    Long before they would lose this eventuality, their internal economy will rot away.

    Conscript all you want, but have fun trying to equip them with rotting uniforms from storage, no body armor, and no field rations.

    The West will supply UKR with ever increasing amounts of weapons, rifles, MGs, ATGMs, SAM, SPA, etc. UKR can sustain in the long run because is has the industrial backing of the West.

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    Mariupol is all but fallen.
    They will have given their last, and have bled the RUS military dry. The units RUS put into it... are gone.

    It will be the UKR version of the Alamo. "Remember Mariupol" A pyrrhic victory. or should I say Putinic?

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    Hope they melt it for mortar tubes.

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    Karma.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Russian general Vladimir Frolov killed in Ukraine, St. Petersburg mayor says



    https://nypost.com/2022/04/16/russia...ed-in-ukraine/


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    No, our financial stability comes from the fact that our debt is entirely in US dollars, and we boast the largest GDP in the world. This is something the US engineered post World War II in large part for being the winner of that conflict, and because the US Dollar has been historically the most stable currency in the world (and still is today, thus why I was asking compared to who...).

    This is why world commerce is done in US dollars, which in turns makes the US dollar the reserve currency all around the world, and whoever tries to undermine it end up shooting themselves in the foot.

    See: Russia trying to pay it's debt in Rubles and getting laughed at, despite that their debt to GDP ratio is small (their economy is minuscule as well, even smaller than Germany).

    Except for an artificial and largely political barrier of "the debt ceiling", there's no scenario where the US cannot pay it's debt. That's not the case with other countries in the world. This is important to understand, because when you see a country entering in default, it's because they can't pay back their debts in US dollars.
    Texas.

    Their economy is smaller than Texas.

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    Russia has the numbers, but it was always suspect simply because:

    1) Their largest investment comes from the Soviet era, and that was a long time ago.
    2) They are a small economy that doesn't really produce much at all, thus doesn't really give them a large budget for the military and are very reliant on foreign parts.
    3) Their biggest threat is nuclear, but crossing into a nuclear attack, especially against Europe/NATO, means they're effectively done as a country. This is why nuclear deterrence is no longer what it used to be.
    4) Because they have very dated equipment, they've been very reliant in trains, roads, etc, which in turns makes logistics very complicated the furthest they get away from their country. This isn't new either, but it's been made much worse with the availability of UAVs and the like which can really sever supply lines quickly. This is also why Mariupol is crucial for them, and you would think taking the eastern side of Ukraine should be substantially easier for them as well.
    Respectfully:

    It isn't exactly because their equipment is dated. Their logistics is designed around train systems, on the theory they would be mostly fighting defensive battles on their own turf. Their logistics/trucking units are 1/4the size of an equivalent NATO unit. Even this is inefficient due to lack of palletization/mechanization. It is functioning as designed. It just is designed for failure. To be fair: the age of the equipment isn't helping.

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    Pootler having a rough couple of months



    This is the first of many such cancellations. RUS will be unable to fill its contracts.

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    Texas.

    Their economy is smaller than Texas.

    & yet Putin is taking on the entire free & non free world, Rarg; NATO, EU, UN, us, 30+ countries + Z'land and doing yeoman work not 2 months in!


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