WHY THE PAST 10 YEARS OF AMERICAN LIFE HAVE BEEN UNIQUELY STUPID

[vy65]

social media, and in particular, twitter, have been catastrophic when it comes to political discourse. it all comes down to a nice zinger in 280 characters, or a 90 second soundbite, as opposed to anything resembling an informed discussion or people actually articulating their positions.

its how morons like rand paul get so popular. oh here's a baller 90 second clip of me talking to fauci in his face and calling for him to resign. nevermind the fact that he responded and tore down every mistake i made in that clip, you dont get to see that!

and while i used rand as my example, id say that phenomenon isnt exclusive to the right... though again, i will always defer to the fact that the "loony right" has much more pull than the "loony left" so for every 1 democrat politician who pulls a stunt like that, there are 4-5 republicans doing the same. i'd say same with pundits. conservative pundits largely dominate social media.

Agree with all of this and would add the mob mentality/burn the witch phenomenon compounds the problem

[DMC]

And the award for the laziest, offhand, and completely unsupported analogy (if you can even call it that) goes to …

You think giving people a voice and the ability to read and hear others leads to a failed society? Do you think there should be some arbiter of truth who ensures only that deemed to be truth gets disseminated to the masses? Come to Russia.

[vy65]

You think giving people a voice and the ability to read and hear others leads to a failed society? Do you think there should be some arbiter of truth who ensures only that deemed to be truth gets disseminated to the masses? Come to Russia.

I think that you offered nothing to support your lazy and stupid analogy other than asking me stupid rhetorical, non-sequitur questions rather than attempting to support said lazy and stupid analogy.

[DMC]

I think that you offered nothing to support your lazy and stupid analogy other than asking me stupid rhetorical, non-sequitur questions rather than attempting to support said lazy and stupid analogy.

Maybe I could just post an article like you, that's not lazy at all.

[daslicer]

What do you even mean by the left? What exactly is the left in America? Bernie Sanders? Because it's really hard to argue the Democratic party is being hijacked by the left when their last two nominations were Clinton and Biden and when the party went all out to deny Sanders a primary win in 2020 by having everyone drop out and endorse Biden as soon as Bernie had momentum going. This is some bothsides crap. The left has no big media like Clear Channel, Fox News, or Sinclair pushing their agenda onto the Democratic party.

People in general define what is left and right mainly by social issues. My definition goes away from the social issues and focuses on economic issue. If you believe the rich should pay more taxes, universal healthcare, green energy, corporations should be regulated, free college ,investments into new industries such as high speed rail then your to the left. If you believe the rich should continue to pay little to nothing, deregulation of corporations, support oil industry, increased military spending, support austerity and is for privatized health insurance then your on the right. Both the Democrats and Republicans support my economic definition of the right. The Democrats will pretend their on the left but they are truly not when it comes to the issues I have mentioned.

The real battle going on in America with both parties is based on nothing but social issues because both parties are truly right wing economically. Only way they can distinguish themselves from each other is through social issues and hence why the obsession with social issues. This is not anything new since it's really been this way for 60 years now since the civil rights era. It's gotten worse now because of social media magnifies the culture war 10000X.

The democrats haven't been hijacked by the left since they don't push left economic issues and tend to shout them down. They have been hijacked by rich elites who want them to push social issues because pushing any issues outside of social issues goes against their interests. The mainstream media won't report on this because they are owned by the same rich elites.

[DMC]

If you think everything should be free for you but cost others, you're probably on the left.

[Blake]

If you think everything should be free for you but cost others, you're probably on the left.

I think I saw this on a redneck's truck bumper

[Blake]

Maybe I could just post an article like you, that's not lazy at all.

Aww all the hard work you put in in building those text walls and you still look stupid.

[ElNono]

social media, and in particular, twitter, have been catastrophic when it comes to political discourse. it all comes down to a nice zinger in 280 characters, or a 90 second soundbite, as opposed to anything resembling an informed discussion or people actually articulating their positions.

its how morons like rand paul get so popular. oh here's a baller 90 second clip of me talking to fauci in his face and calling for him to resign. nevermind the fact that he responded and tore down every mistake i made in that clip, you dont get to see that!

and while i used rand as my example, id say that phenomenon isnt exclusive to the right... though again, i will always defer to the fact that the "loony right" has much more pull than the "loony left" so for every 1 democrat politician who pulls a stunt like that, there are 4-5 republicans doing the same. i'd say same with pundits. conservative pundits largely dominate social media.

Well, not trying to justify it, but they're fighting for their existence. I mean, not even democracy is untouchable at this point. They figured that yelling something stupid during the SOTU gives them more coverage and cred with their base than talking about trickle down, makers vs takers, tax cuts or even abortion.

At this point it's not even about ideas, it's about corralling their base through triggering dem libs, and hoping the Democrats up (which they do a lot) to give them a chance. Doesn't mean Democrats don't have their own problems as well, they do, but they're not really existential.

[ChumpDumper]

Of course, you and RG do the full face paint, cheese head blue fan . Your side is never wrong.

You're wrong.

[Spurminator]

Of course, you and RG do the full face paint, cheese head blue fan . Your side is never wrong.

You're literally responding to a post where I said I agree with everything in an article that spends half of its time criticizing my "side," so I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion except that it's another example of a strawman you have to invent in these threads when you can't hang with the actual discussion. You might consider sitting some of these out.

[Ef-man]

Maybe I could just post an article like you, that's not lazy at all.

Or post the definition of CRT from britanica.com instead of providing your definition.

[DMC]

Aww all the hard work you put in in building those text walls and you still look stupid.

That's rich coming from the the target of punching down on this forum.

[DMC]

Or post the definition of CRT from britanica.com instead of providing your definition.

I don't need to define that which is already defined.

[DMC]

You're literally responding to a post where I said I agree with everything in an article that spends half of its time criticizing my "side," so I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion except that it's another example of a strawman you have to invent in these threads when you can't hang with the actual discussion. You might consider sitting some of these out.

You disagree with the "both sides" part because, as Extra Stout pointed out to you and your ilk, you like to feel placated by pretending you're above it.

[Ef-man]

I don't need to define that which is already defined.

That's not lazy at all, as that is not your opinion and you would not have to support it, amirite.

[Spurminator]

You disagree with the "both sides" part because, as Extra Stout pointed out to you and your ilk, you like to feel placated by pretending you're above it.

What am I supposedly feeling "above" in the context of this conversation?

[Blake]

That's rich coming from the the target of punching down on this forum.

Rofl only the simpletons that have no comebacks and are finished discussing the topic go there.

You on the other hand get beat down daily by many different people for being a stupid idiot. And the arrogance gets you bonus lols.

[DMC]

What am I supposedly feeling "above" in the context of this conversation?

Your "some pigs are more equal" approach keeps you morally above the unwashed heathens who occupy the "both sides" world. Sure, it exists on both sides, but your side (and therefore you by extension) are better.

[DMC]

Rofl only the simpletons that have no comebacks and are finished discussing the topic go there.

You on the other hand get beat down daily by many different people for being a stupid idiot. And the arrogance gets you bonus lols.

You have >10 years under you belt of being the "poor thing" here. There's no catching up to you.

[DMC]

That's not lazy at all, as that is not your opinion and you would not have to support it, amirite.

I'm ok with established definitions. Why does that bother you so much?

[Blake]

You have >10 years under you belt of being the "poor thing" here. There's no catching up to you.

Lol only simpletons think that. I see a white flag every time you go there. It's hilarious.

[Spurminator]

Your "some pigs are more equal" approach keeps you morally above the unwashed heathens who occupy the "both sides" world. Sure, it exists on both sides, but your side (and therefore you by extension) are better.

Your armchair psychoanalysis

You've made no attempt to show HOW the two sides are equally bad, you're just offended to your core by the suggestion that they aren't.