Reply With Quote
I say keep 9 & 20….. it may turn out to be a pretty nice draft! I like that John Butler JS
I don't think Calipari wants players back. His thing is reloading with new blue chips every year.
I say keep 9 & 20….. it may turn out to be a pretty nice draft! I like that John Butler JS
We've talked about what Poeltl would bring in this draft (and a little about DJ) but what about Keldon? What type of pick would he bring? or what package featuring him would bring back?
F that, too. Bench player Thad got us a 13 position jump. They ain’t getting Poodle for 5-7 spots. The pick. No pick outgoing.
Toronto was interested, too. There is definitely a multi team market for a Jak. No need to sell cheap.
No one, outside of the top 4, is solidly anywhere. The lottery hasn’t happened yet. The combine hasn’t happened yet.
I don’t understand this Spurstalk nonsense. Let’s draft a guy and build him up. Turn our draft pick into a quality player. Then trade him to roll the dice on another pick.
If you’re going to develop draft picks it would be to load up on productive players and them flip them to level up on a proven player not flip them for another project.
None of these guys are going to help us crack the top 4 picks and probably not even the top 8. There’s just no good argument to move a guy like Keldon for a mid round pick.
Got it...you don't understand it....
Yeah, Keldon is not going to get us much in a straight up trade would like to keep him though he is not a starting PF and would like to see him play SF before his contract is up. But I like that the Spurs finally understand it is better to sale high then to let a player walk for free because you can't afford them or don't want them...
In abstract terms you're right, otherwise you're not a basketball franchise but an asset flipping business OKC style. But I think appraising an asset on pick # is not the right way to look at it, it's more about what role do you think a given player has on your roster going forward, and whether another player makes your team better.
If the FO envisions Keldon as our future SF, PF, or whatever, then yes, by all means extend him and keep him. But otherwise, if the right offer comes along, I don't see why you shouldn't consider it. Say draft night comes and a team picking at 12 offers you the pick, and Duren is available. Do you take the offer or not? Well, regardless of your answer, it shouldn't change if not it's the 17 pick instead. If you have to make a decision in advance, I would do so if the players expected to be available at that spot are better enough to warrant the potential downside and developing required.
So it's a very situational answer, and I wouldn't look at it exclusively on a pick number basis... but I definitely wouldn't rule it out in advance either.
I'm not saying what he will bring....I'm asking what people here think he will bring(and expandingit to packages involving KJ)...it fosters discussion and ideas....judging by your responses I'd say you think mid teens...
Exactly. Especially someone who will be one of the oldest players in the draft. Heck, even the top 4 aren’t a lock. Last year it was a top 5, but Kuminga fell to 7th.
There’s lot of guys I like in this upcoming draft and I know people don’t want another guard but I think Johnny Davis is gonna be really good.
I'm with you, and that's what I mentioned a couple of times... Some pople always fantasize aout the next pick being then ONE... and necessarily better than what you have. They bet on hope and want to trade Murray, Jak and basically your best players for picks that they'll want to trade in 3 years for picks..
THe same people tend to over-evluate draft players There isn't bunches of "wow" players or guys that reallt impress in that draft... Just read the scouting reviews; no oe agrees and find lacks in any player...
Last edited by JPB; 04-18-2022 at 10:31 PM.
That was Torontos doing. Everyone expected them to pick Suggs, since they weren’t bringing Lowry back, but they picked Scotty Barnes, instead. It turned out to be a great pick, but was considered a reach of 2-3 spots.
Huge difference in going from 33 to 21 and going from 25 to lottery…
The proposal was 20 for 15 or 13. 15 isn’t even in the lottery, and if the gods hate us this year, and we draw the less than 1/10% chance of 13, people will ing hang themselves here. It’s not a great pick.
They didn’t want to give us a FRP at the deadline, and now 15 has literally dropped into their lap by the Pels making the playoffs. We dont HAVE to trade Poeltl. They give us what they offered at the deadline, PJ and Kai, and throw that windfall #15 pick on top, and they have a deal. Toronto and Chicago are both also interested, so it’s a sellers market. The only wrong thing you can do, since you don’t have to trade him, is to ask too little. By passing on this trade at the deadline, they dropped from the playoffs to the 9/10 play in, and were eliminated. Sometimes a buyer just needs another look.
Hey I would love to agree. If Jak can get us anywhere near the lottery I am doing it.
Here's a fantasyland big brain idea that doesn't involve trading for picks :
Spurs get into top 3 picks, take one of the bigs to pair with Poeltl, and Pop returns, and they go all in.
Using Dejounte and Pop's connections and the lure of the young big, Spurs entice Zach Lavine to sign ... But to get him the most money and spare some stretches or cap dump trades, the Spurs and bulls agree on a sign and trade of Keldon Johnson, the future bulls pick, and a big trade exception to get Lavine.
Now there's a trade! It's all fake but it's a trade
I think Davis is getting slept on generally, but he's a ball-stopper. It's his style to run a lot of isos that are pretty slow and stick in his hands, and he's not very quick, suggesting he can get shut down by NBA defenders. I can see him struggle in the ball-movement the Spurs run. But he does have scoring ability and is a good defender.
Generally agree, but it might be a function of playing on a very bad team without enough spacing. He's had to do a lot and take tough contested shots all year long. He's a risk and has a definite bust potential, but of all the players projected around 10 or lower he has one of the the highest upsides imo.
5 to 7 spots is a big difference of a top prospect or a lower tier prospect. You could get Agbaji, or Williams or maybe Duren at 13 but they won't be there at 20. The players who will be available at 20 are lower level prospects. Poeltl is not the answer for a starting C, too slow afoot and not enough shot blocking prowess. He has no lift. Too weak defensively. The spurs need to be stronger at the 5. Poeltl should be nothing more than a backup.
The Spurs don't have any Wow players on the roster. That's why they can't even make the playoffs.
Davis not getting slept on and is expected to go in the top 10 picks.
Only if he shoots 3s in the 40s and he can easily walk to the rim and jam it down together with advance defense. We have enough combo guards who are meh shooter and meh at attacking the rim with meh defense
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
