They already changed the game last year. Nothing they do this draft should be surprising, based on all of the transactions this past season.
The result of the two summer trades was Aminu, Hutchison, Thad, a CHI FRP&SRP, LAL SRP, DET SRP. We waived both Aminu and Hutchison, and packaged two other pieces, Thad and the DET SRP for the Toronto FRP. The net assets received from the trades were two FRPs and two SRPs, for basically $14M in cap rental.
Pretty crazy to get two first rounders for a guy the Spurs wanted to let walk.
They ate 2 years of Favors equating to 18mm for an FRP. He’ll be a useful salary dump come 23’ trade deadline so the SRP is probably a wash.
From my vantage point:
- We ate Aminu’s 10mm in return for a 2025 FRP and 2 SRPs to facilitate the DDR (all-nba talent) trade to Chicago.
- We ate ~20mm between Hutchison and Thad for the Raps 20th 2022 FRP
It was the right move but absolutely nothing to brag about.
30mm cap.
We got paid 2 FRPs and rented out 30mm in cap space to help DDR get paid by a team who couldn’t otherwise… not by NYC, Charlotte, Cleveland, Orlando or Detroit. Who else could have paid him?
Actually more considering we sent out 16.5mm total for Dragic’s 19.5mm. 30+ in rented cap space over a year, bird
rights to a top 25 player who had limited other alternatives for 2 FRPs and 2 SRPs. I’m not mad at it but I’d hope we can do better with what will probably be another 20+ in otherwise unused cap space this summer.
I think the Spurs will be much more active in trying to make draft night trades (trying, not necessarily succeeding) than in the past simply because they have a lot more assets than they normally do in terms of picks, cap space, and young players. Other teams will be calling the Spurs.
It was probably $23-24M, since Toronto paid the balance of his salary. He was here for 55/82 games, so $9.5M paid by SA.
9.5+10.2+4=23.7 rented
The Spurs need to be assertive and get something done on draft night.
What? That is a crazy way to frame it. You can’t equate the cost of buying a pick outright to a team using cap space that was not needed. It was little to no cost for SA to get the picks and even if it was, buying firsts is a great sign from a FO tbh..
Hindsight is 20/20, no one perceived him as all NBA at the time. I really cannot envision a better scenario than what they got from him, considering the cir stances at the time. Also, while I'm not a fan of long term picks, that 2025 pick is likely to find a Chicago team on their way down, and there's only so many first round contracts you can take at once. So setting yourself with a decent amount of first rounders for years to come sounds like a pretty smart move.
+ we bought out Dragic at par. QUICK MAFFS. Someone get this old man an abacus.
QUICK, MORE MAFFS, then. We also bought out Satoransky, and increased Forbes contract twice in trades. Oh, and we cut Eubanks, and paid the ball boy and locker room staff a bonus.
The attribution analysis I put forth is a simplistic yet VERY reasonable representation of the term “renting cap space.”
You are wrong and you know it. As usual you can’t admit it. I put forth a very fair assessment of how we rented out capital for decent haul. Not great from my vantage point. I suspect 20mm goes a similar way this offseason.
Not an unreasonable way to look at it, but to me it was a little different:
DDR --> Lightly protected FRP (i always thought our leverage was overstated bc he was a UFA)
Aminu's contract --> SRP
Thad contract --> SRP
So basically you can argue that the 38th LAL pick we get to enjoy later this summer is part of the cost of taking Thad (or the 2025 CHI SRP if you prefer).
Fair enough. That 30mm in cap space had to be used somewhere. I’m not trying to be an ass, we did decent all said and done. Brian Wright leading up to the trade deadline absolutely impressed even the biggest of naysayers.. Hoping for more of the same draft day and into free agency.
My dream is that we can hit the lotto ball and get in the top 4 this year and also at least get into top 7 next year - So by 2025 we got at least a very good foundation and hopefully 2025 will land us a high draft pick that will be icing on the cake.....
Well... you're not alone at that. Let's dream on.My dream is that we can hit the lotto ball and get in the top 4 this year and also at least get into top 7 next year - So by 2025 we got at least a very good foundation and hopefully 2025 will land us a high draft pick that will be icing on the cake.....
Something they should have been doing earlier in this rebuild, acquiring assets. Some of us are just finally satisfied that they seem like a competent FO.
The Forbes and McDermott signings this past summer were all for Pop to have shooters in his quest to remain compe ive. The crutch they provided luckily proved unnecessary. I hope there are no more signings like that this summer.
Sochan has a much more fixable jump shot.
Wingspan? I'm awful at estimating that sort of thing from video.
Agreed! The McDermott signing was worrisome in that it communicated PATFO probably thought that was a more compe ive roster going into the season. B Wright’s trades into the deadline communicated what most of us have been wanting to see which is full on rebuild mode. This off-season will be exciting.
The Forbes signing was always about flipping him for assets at/near the deadline. That’s why it was a one year contract. He had approval/disapproval over trades because of that.
I wasn’t a huge fan of the McD signing, but I figured he would offset his bad defense with volume 3 point shooting. He’s really a player that depends on the gravity of other players to limit hedges and switches, and we don’t have that. He would do well on a contender, and we should try to find him one.
I don't like players you need to fix their shooting with the 9th pick.
There will be better players at 9 where you won't have to fix their shot.
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