Lakers: Anyone watching the show about how Magic caught AIDS on HBO this Sunday?

[baseline bum]

Probably the most ed up thing I found in the Showtime book was how Magic kept stringing Cookie along, like how he was going to marry her in 1984 was called it off in 1985 because he wanted to keep getting strange. He only finally married her a ing month and a half before the HIV diagnosis. Can't believe she stuck with him and they're still married.

[MultiTroll]

^ wonder if she felt she was stuck in the projects and only way out?


daughter daughter Cookie Magic daughter-in-law son.
That how it goes?

[lefty]

Oh great, The Last Gay Dance

smh

[lefty]

. Can't believe she stuck with him

His bank account, simple as that.
The Los Angeles Lakers signed Magic Johnson to a 25-year, $25 million contract extension effective from 1984,

[LkrFan]

Oh great, The Last Gay Dance

smh

[MultiTroll]

Oh great, The Last Gay Dance

smh

Was the fairy conceived before or after they married?

[lefty]

60% of this Apple Magic show js about his relationship with Cooki
meh

[baseline bum]

60% of this Apple Magic show js about his relationship with Cooki
meh

So about Magic stringing her along for twelve years and then only marrying her 1.5 months before being diagnosed as HIV positive?

[MultiTroll]

60% of this Apple Magic show js about his relationship with Cooki
meh

So about Magic stringing her along for twelve years and then only marrying her 1.5 months before being diagnosed as HIV positive?

Nov 7, 1991 HIV announcement.
June 4, 1992 EJ born

= +/- October 1991 EJ conceived.

Wait a minute you're saying Magic knew he had HIV and married Cookie about 1 1/2 months before the public announcement?
I'm trying to get at timeframe EJ conceived / when did Magic know he had HIV. Not casting any negative aspersions on ic or Cookie just wondering if they conceived EJ after he found out. Like maybe we better conceive before you (Magic) are unable to (early HIV information days).

[lefty]

So about Magic stringing her along for twelve years and then only marrying her 1.5 months before being diagnosed as HIV positive?

pretty much lol

[MultiTroll]

Update:

The newlyweds had also just found out she was pregnant with their first child, E.J., now 24. Johnson said she agonized while she waited for her test results for herself and her unborn child.


"I was scared to death about the baby. I mean, I had just found out I was pregnant so it was really early in the pregnancy," she said. "In those days, you had to wait almost 10 days to get your results back, so that was agonizing. And then, finally, the results came in and what they told me was that if the mother is negative, then the baby is automatically negative. And they didn't have to worry about trying to test the baby because, really, I mean, he hadn't really formed yet, actually. I mean, it was very early on.”
Johnson also shared her heartache as she waited behind closed doors as her husband made phone calls to the various men he had slept with.
"It was like, 'Who is he calling? You know, why is he in there so long?' she said. "That was a difficult day."

Cookie Johnson: 'I Fell to My Knees' When Magic Revealed His HIV Diagnosis - ABC News (go.com)

[baseline bum]

I read 3 ring Circus which was by the same author that wrote Showtime. 3 Ring Circus was about the Shaq-Kobe Lakers from '96-'04. I found it pretty entertaining from a comedic standpoint. That team was truly filled with a bunch of clowns. Shaq and Kobe and both portrayed in the books as equally as rotten but in different ways. There are a lot of good stories about Shaq and Kobe in there that I didn't even know of. One that made me laugh was how Shaq was extremely angry after losing game 2 against the Spurs in the '02 playoffs that he confronted Devean George for playing bad and then Brian Shaw told him to cut it out. Shaq responded by grabbing Shaw by his torso and throwing him across the room and screaming "Don't' ever disrespect me like that again"

HBO should have made a show based off that book since they wouldn't have to fictionalize it for it to be entertaining. I'm not sure if they will do it in the future since Kobe looks really bad in the book even outside of the rape allegations.

I'm about halfway through Three Ring Circus and it's nowhere near as good as his Showtime book, not even close. Three Ring Circus feels so phoned in. I can't believe how quickly they rushed through the 2000-01 season when that's when Shaq & Kobe came so close to being broken up but instead became one of the top 4 or 5 teams in league history. All the trade rumors all season swept under the rug and the Bibby + Abdur Rahim for Kobe deal that nearly happened is mentioned only in passing with Shaq telling a reporter how high taxes are in Canada with Kobe in earshot. Don't know how you sum up the sweeps against the Kings and Spurs in one sentence either. That's when Kobe truly emerged as a superstar and just not even mentioning the hate Kobe had motivating him after the Kings took them to 5 in 2000 and the Spurs swept them in 1999 was a pretty huge oversight. And not mentioning Fisher's ridiculous WCF?

I was really looking forward to reading about 2000-01 in Three Ring Circus but it just ran through that season in a blur without having much interesting to say other than Shaq and Kobe hating each other. Really disappointing. Not even sure I want to finish the book after how how one of the most interesting seasons a team has ever had got such abridged coverage.

[baseline bum]

Nov 7, 1991 HIV announcement.
June 4, 1992 EJ born

= +/- October 1991 EJ conceived.

Wait a minute you're saying Magic knew he had HIV and married Cookie about 1 1/2 months before the public announcement?
I'm trying to get at timeframe EJ conceived / when did Magic know he had HIV. Not casting any negative aspersions on ic or Cookie just wondering if they conceived EJ after he found out. Like maybe we better conceive before you (Magic) are unable to (early HIV information days).

He failed a physical for a life insurance policy in late October 1991, which is how his HIV+ status was found out, my guess is he was taking it out for Cookie right after getting married. I don't believe for a second he got Cookie pregnant with EJ knowing he was positive though, back in 1991 HIV was considered a death sentence and the virus still wasn't that well understood.

EDIT: Exact date was October 25th, 1991 when the Lakers team doctor called him and told him to forget playing the preseason game in Utah and get his ass on a plane back to LA to give him the news.

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He failed a physical for a life insurance policy in late October 1991, which is how his HIV+ status was found out, my guess is he was taking it out for Cookie right after getting married. I don't believe for a second he got Cookie pregnant with EJ knowing he was positive though, back in 1991 HIV was considered a death sentence and the virus still wasn't that well understood.

EDIT: Exact date was October 25th, 1991 when the Lakers team doctor called him and told him to forget playing the preseason game in Utah and get his ass on a plane back to LA to give him the news.

So sounds like quite a story for EJ phans.
Was conceived just prior to Magic learning of his HIV.

Unless Magics HIV is all a publicity stunt.

[lefty]

Stern forced Magic to retire to promote MJ more and have him come back in 96 to creat a buzz and have him play vs Jordan one last time

[ambchang]

Update:

The newlyweds had also just found out she was pregnant with their first child, E.J., now 24. Johnson said she agonized while she waited for her test results for herself and her unborn child.


"I was scared to death about the baby. I mean, I had just found out I was pregnant so it was really early in the pregnancy," she said. "In those days, you had to wait almost 10 days to get your results back, so that was agonizing. And then, finally, the results came in and what they told me was that if the mother is negative, then the baby is automatically negative. And they didn't have to worry about trying to test the baby because, really, I mean, he hadn't really formed yet, actually. I mean, it was very early on.”
Johnson also shared her heartache as she waited behind closed doors as her husband made phone calls to the various men he had slept with.
"It was like, 'Who is he calling? You know, why is he in there so long?' she said. "That was a difficult day."

Cookie Johnson: 'I Fell to My Knees' When Magic Revealed His HIV Diagnosis - ABC News (go.com)

I always thought magic being gay/bi was a rumour created by isiah Thomas to backstab him or something by like that.

[lefty]

I always thought magic being gay/bi was a rumour created by isiah Thomas to backstab him or something by like that.

No it was a BS story created by Magic’s agent

[baseline bum]

I always thought magic being gay/bi was a rumour created by isiah Thomas to backstab him or something by like that.

Do you really believe Magic got HIV from ing women though? I don't buy that for a second, and he got it way too late for it to have been from a transfusion.

[Killakobe81]

I'm about halfway through Three Ring Circus and it's nowhere near as good as his Showtime book, not even close. Three Ring Circus feels so phoned in. I can't believe how quickly they rushed through the 2000-01 season when that's when Shaq & Kobe came so close to being broken up but instead became one of the top 4 or 5 teams in league history. All the trade rumors all season swept under the rug and the Bibby + Abdur Rahim for Kobe deal that nearly happened is mentioned only in passing with Shaq telling a reporter how high taxes are in Canada with Kobe in earshot. Don't know how you sum up the sweeps against the Kings and Spurs in one sentence either. That's when Kobe truly emerged as a superstar and just not even mentioning the hate Kobe had motivating him after the Kings took them to 5 in 2000 and the Spurs swept them in 1999 was a pretty huge oversight. And not mentioning Fisher's ridiculous WCF?

I was really looking forward to reading about 2000-01 in Three Ring Circus but it just ran through that season in a blur without having much interesting to say other than Shaq and Kobe hating each other. Really disappointing. Not even sure I want to finish the book after how how one of the most interesting seasons a team has ever had got such abridged coverage.

Agreed. It’s good or at least interesting but they fumbled the bag.

[baseline bum]

Agreed. It’s good or at least interesting but they fumbled the bag.

I'm not really finding Three Ring Circus good at all. I read the chapter on the Sacramento series and they made it sound like the Kings dominated Game 3 wire to wire, which is total bull because the Lakers went on a monster run in the third quarter that game which mirrored the Kings' Game 4 collapse. I was watching that Game 4 with a bunch of Laker fan friends from school and told them Horry was going to win them that game during the timeout when the Lakers were down two.

And after that Game 3 collapse wasn't surprised at all to see the Kings actually cough up Game 4 from 25 up or whatever their biggest lead was.

[ambchang]

Do you really believe Magic got HIV from ing women though? I don't buy that for a second, and he got it way too late for it to have been from a transfusion.

To be honest I’ve always thought that. I guess I just took magics word for it. Not sure why he’s so ashamed of it but I guess it was a different time.

[MultiTroll]

Jordan forced Magic to retire by taking him to the woodshed while Stern brought Magic back in 96 to creat a buzz and have him play vs Jordan one last time

fify

[lefty]

fify

nah Jordan was lucky the Lakers were injured

[james evans]

Probably the most ed up thing I found in the Showtime book was how Magic kept stringing Cookie along, like how he was going to marry her in 1984 was called it off in 1985 because he wanted to keep getting strange. He only finally married her a ing month and a half before the HIV diagnosis. Can't believe she stuck with him and they're still married.

[Killakobe81]

I always thought magic being gay/bi was a rumour created by isiah Thomas to backstab him or something by like that.

I remember Isiah saying something slick like … underrated player but a snake ass nicca