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    No one in lottery will do a trade before draft day or at least before the lottery day.
    No doubt, the gm will get run out of town on the chance that the team gets the top pick.

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    Keldon is outperforming the 4th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 14th picks in his own draft class.

    When someone says he’s not valued as a trade asset that could net a lottery pick, it implies those picks would 100% turn out better than Keldon. How strange that that’s looking like that’s not even the case for his own draft class.

    When you use logic instead of your own perception, things actually make sense.

    When you guys keep saying "lottery pick", it's kind of important whether you mean anything 14 or better, or if you mean one of the Top 4. People are greedy about those Top 4 (or so) picks. They rarely want to give up the chance at a superstar for less than a star plus some sweetener. But you wouldn't have to get too far down the draft board before people would give up their pick for a known quan y like Keldon became this season.

    Those 4 guys at the top are pretty widely viewed as players who COULD turn out better than Keldon, though. That's a hard thing to give up on after spending a whole season tanking.

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    I truly believe that there are 2 camps within the spurs organization that make the final decision on draft picks. One camp likes to select players with " down the road potential" while the other camp tends to select the best player available. Primo was a bit of a reach while Wiescamp was probably the best player available. The same thing was done with Luka and Keldon. Devin Vassel and Trey Jones seemed to be the best player available types. ( I know Haliburton was still available)

    With multiple picks in this years draft, lets see how the spurs pick, best available or reach. It seems they do one or the other or sometimes both. I'm hoping they don't reach though. We have enough young players who don't get enough minutes and I doubt a rookie will replace a vet who plays 20 - 30 minutes a night unless they are a top 4 pick and even then their minutes are still limited by Pop. Unfortunately this not the best draft.

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    There won't be any team who will trade out of the lottery for Keldon. He's over rated by Spurs fans and nothing too special.
    Lol

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    I meant keldon for 7 straight up, or maybe Keldon +25 for 7.

    Then the Spurs could potentially get my dream duo, Mathurin and Duren. Swag Squared.

    Keldon has way outperformed his pick, but I don't want to see the Spurs overpay him. I still think he's a hustle player based on screams and excitement but without hustle stats. No steals, no blocks, no defensive impact. The perfect guy for a dumb team to overpay.
    That description of Keldon reminded me of Pop in the huddle during the play in game telling guys that if they wanted to show off how much they wanted it, to do it going for a rebound or a loose ball. I forget exactly the words he used, I am paraphrasing, but it goes exactly to what you say in the last paragraph there. Show me more hustle and less screaming basically.


    Since you so often go against the grain of what the FO has done for years, it just kind of cemented that opposite world of what you are saying is what will happen. The big extension for Keldon is coming this summer, book it. All things told, he’s earned the big payday and he’s an asset that like White, one hopes continues to develop and can trade in the future if he stagnates or is not what the team needs long term. Right now he provides scoring and shooting that they need, and if they let Lonnie go, Keldon is for sure getting extended. It might even merit a thread of his own now that I think about it.

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    No one in lottery will do a trade before draft day or at least before the lottery day.
    Grizzlies last season traded Valanciunas and 17 for Adams and 10 a few days before the draft and continued to tray to climb higher but were unable to.

    edit: I realized after typing that maybe you meant before the lottery day, not draft day, which is how I read it initially.

    It’s late but one thing is lottery day, which I don’t think any team will trade a pick before they know where it falls for sure (after the lottery) and then draft day. While trades before draft day are unlikely they aren’t impossible or so rare as to never happen and that was my point citing the Valanciunas trade. .
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    Lottery day is during the playoffs, so I don’t think trades are even allowed

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    Reaching for upside, falling hard lol
    9th pick- Jalen Duren
    20th- Nikola Jovic
    25- Jaden hardy

    Randomly thought about this scenario this morning lol totally unlikely but if the spurs wanted to swing for the fenses this could make sense. All 3 guys at one point were considered top Prospects in this draft and for various reasons have fallen off some.

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    Kofi burn just declared for the Draft this morning. One of my favorite players in college basketball last season. Dude is a beast. He was a First Team All-American this season. He’s 21 so a little older than you’d like, but he’s a monster inside at 7’0 290 lbs with athleticism. Old-school Center who plays with his back to the basket. Very physical inside which I love. Doesn’t get pushed around (look at him). He’s going in the First around for sure.




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    Forgot to add that Kofi reportedly has a 7’4 wingspan to go with his freakish 7’0 290 lb body. Dude’s a monster.

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    Kofi burn just declared for the Draft this morning. One of my favorite players in college basketball last season. Dude is a beast. He was a First Team All-American this season. He’s 21 so a little older than you’d like, but he’s a monster inside at 7’0 290 lbs with athleticism. Old-school Center who plays with his back to the basket. Very physical inside which I love. Doesn’t get pushed around (look at him). He’s going in the First around for sure.



    Have you paid attention to anything since 2015? They’ll drag him out to the perimeter with picks and switches and roast him alive.

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    Kofi burn just declared for the Draft this morning. One of my favorite players in college basketball last season. Dude is a beast. He was a First Team All-American this season. He’s 21 so a little older than you’d like, but he’s a monster inside at 7’0 290 lbs with athleticism. Old-school Center who plays with his back to the basket. Very physical inside which I love. Doesn’t get pushed around (look at him). He’s going in the First around for sure.

    burn isn't like all the other boys. He's a lion and not a gazelle. He plays at, what?, 280, and he's a lot more muscle than he was as a freshman. I'm still skeptical of a true "old school" big man in the New NBA, and I think you would have to structure a team to be able to capitalize on that. But if you are going to put an old school big man on the floor, he has to be able to intimidate the middle. He's got the potential to do exactly that, even at the next level.

    I like him more than several of the old school big men that are currently ranked in the first round. I think you're right, and he'll climb between now and the draft.


    Have you paid attention to anything since 2015? They’ll drag him out to the perimeter with picks and switches and roast him alive.
    And there's the problem. Old school bigs are situational. It's not bad to have one on the roster, but not as a steady diet on the floor. But burn is likely going to leave a dent in a lot of the teams that don't have well-rounded New NBA rosters.

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    Have you paid attention to anything since 2015? They’ll drag him out to the perimeter with picks and switches and roast him alive.
    Me posting about a consensus First Team All-American declaring for the draft means I don’t watch basketball . Got it.

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    Me posting about a consensus First Team All-American declaring for the draft means I don’t watch basketball . Got it.
    No. Anything that goes against exstatic's all-in narrative on drafting Duren does. I'm curious E, is there anyone else that you think would be a good pick at 9 even if Duren is still available?

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    burn isn't like all the other boys. He's a lion and not a gazelle. He plays at, what?, 280, and he's a lot more muscle than he was as a freshman. I'm still skeptical of a true "old school" big man in the New NBA, and I think you would have to structure a team to be able to capitalize on that. But if you are going to put an old school big man on the floor, he has to be able to intimidate the middle. He's got the potential to do exactly that, even at the next level.

    I like him more than several of the old school big men that are currently ranked in the first round. I think you're right, and he'll climb between now and the draft.




    And there's the problem. Old school bigs are situational. It's not bad to have one on the roster, but not as a steady diet on the floor. But burn is likely going to leave a dent in a lot of the teams that don't have well-rounded New NBA rosters.
    He presents a very interesting case in valuing his offensive impact on the game. If you can pair him with a mobile defensive minded 4 that could cover for his perimeter limitations, or create a defense were all perimeter players go over so he can drop on screens, he could be a really intriguing talent that could abuse the modern game on offense. Prolly worth a flyer at 25

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    I've seen many more big boards and mocks that had Kofi undrafted or outside the top 60 than I have in the first round.

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    I've seen many more big boards and mocks that had Kofi undrafted or outside the top 60 than I have in the first round.
    Then you take him at 38.

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    Kentucky freshman Shaedon Sharpe will declare for the 2022 NBA Draft, and stay in, team sources tell me and @KyleTucker_ATH. NBA teams project Sharpe as a potential high draft lottery pick.

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    That's a good thing. Not because he'll be around at 9, but it will help keep other good players still on the board when we draft.

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    That's a good thing. Not because he'll be around at 9, but it will help keep other good players still on the board when we draft.
    I want Sharpe at 9. He's going to be great but will go between 5-8.

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    I want Sharpe at 9. He's going to be great but will go between 5-8.
    Apparently his eligibility is in question because it's not clear he graduated HS in time, so it's not guaranteed he'll participate in the 2022 draft.

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    What a surprise re Sharpe

    Everyone who even had a passing thought Sharpe would sacrifice a $30 mil contract in order to return to school and risk everything is crazy.

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    Would love sharpe but I bet he’s goes top 6 tbh at least that keeps a player from jumping up in the case that he went back to school tho

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    Sharpe goes top-7 after workouts. He’s a talented kid.

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    Apparently his eligibility is in question because it's not clear he graduated HS in time, so it's not guaranteed he'll participate in the 2022 draft.
    This is what I based my post above:
    https://247sports.com/college/kentuc...aft-174983303/
    "No. 1 prospect in 2022 Shaedon Sharpe announces he's enrolling at Kentucky in January. He will not be eligible for the 2022 NBA Draft since he did not graduate high school prior to the NBA season starting," Givony wrote.

    "The difference between Sharpe and Hamidou Diallo is Diallo graduated high school prior to the NBA season and thus had the option to declare for the NBA Draft after leaving his post-graduate ins ution (Putnam Science) and enrolling at Kentucky at semester break.

    "The NBA CBA specifies pretty clearly that to be NBA Draft-eligible both: The player (A) is or will be at least 19 years of age during the calendar year in which the Draft is held, AND (B)...at least one (1) NBA Season has elapsed since the player’s graduation from high school. This rule pertains to players who have been based in the US in the 3 years prior to their first NBA Draft year. Sharpe went to high school in Kansas and Arizona, and thus is not an international player (for whom HS graduation timing is irrelevant) according to NBA draft rules."
    But just now the same journalist (Jonathan Givony from ESPN) recanted his former statement:
    https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/sta...42571700482055
    A representative of Shaedon Sharpe's high school, Dream City Christian, confirmed to ESPN he graduated in May of 2021. His diploma will be sent to the NBA league office, clearing the way for him to be added to the NBA Draft early-entry list.
    Something smells fishy... but in any case, it seems he will be entering the 2022 draft after all.

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