True, which is why I think they take Williams with their first pick (13, not 14 — my b). But never underestimate Mitch Kupchak’s ability to fall in love with a player because of his physical attributes. Also, Michael Jordan still partakes in their drafting.
I think so too. Duren as well, in the unlikely chance he's still there (you never know). It'd be the cheaper option, and the one I'd go if I were in their shoes. The faster, safer route would be taking back negotiations for Poeltl where they left off... that would be a best case scenario for us. That's in case they want someone proven, or Williams is unavailable at 13 (not likely but possible).
He's Canadian born, so maybe that endears him to Brian Wright. LOL.
Durant was an SF tbh, this kid is prolly gonna have to play C.
They idea of trade up to me seems more and more unlikely. This team went all in on this draft, I don’t think it was done unintentionally. There will be talent to be had at all picks and these players will still line up with our young core’s timeline. It will be way to costly to move into the top 4, and Chet is the only one with obvious star potential, but he does appear to be a risk with his build. I believe PATFO views this draft as a real opportunity to get back into contention in by 2023/2024 season. I think they stand pat with all their picks. If Sharpe is there at 9 I think they take him, especially if his background checks out given our history as only bringing in solid character kids. His high school tape flashes major star potential. If he’s off the board I go with Eason, then Duren. At 20 I think you take BPA who is a scorer, someone who can take and make shots at all three levels. If Davis falls there I take him, or the kid from Ohio State, but I am still really intrigued by that Smith kid from NCstate. He really looks like he could be the real deal, athletic volume scorer with in the gym range. We really need someone like that, almost like how the warriors rolled the dice on Poole and now they have a two headed monster with him and Steph. At 25 you take the best 4/5 prospect on the board, Koloko, Williams, burn.
lol I think it was more like a plate. Probably still can’t is top 25
of all time.
There’s a poor man’s Shaq. There’s a homeless man’s Shaq. And then there’s a disease-addled, bed-ridden, extreme poverty man’s Shaq.
That’s Kofi burn.
He is the exact type of player we need tbh. Even though we had a top 10 offense, it's incredibly hard for our guards around the rim cause bigs don't give two s about Poeltl little flip shots and just sell out against our guards. A rim running / lob threat big would take a lot of pressure off dejounte and would significantly open up our offense. No way your top 3 are there at 9 but Duren might be. If he is, it's a no brainer we take him. Also, I trust our coaching staff to develop him, so I do not think he is just going to be a rim runner forever. But this the same staff who hasn't been able to convince Poeltl to dunk a basketball more than twice in a game...so...Yeah I really, really don't like rim-running centers in the lottery but I need to take a close look at Duren. He miiiiight be worth it at 9
I knew they'd be fans of Mathurin. It's stereotypical, but they clearly target Canadians like they do bi-racial for this reason: NBA physical tools without NBA personality.
Middling athleticism and non star upside didn't stop them from selecting Vassell over Haliburton and Maxey, so I don't see why that or age would stop them from targeting Murray in a trade up scenario.
They've found out firsthand in recent years how hard it is to get modern fours. He's more attainable and checks more Spurs related boxes than any in recent memory.
Agree that they'd likely prefer Poeltl (in part because they appear to have decided they're not paying Washington Jr.) to Williams or trying to trade up for Duren. He's the middle ground in terms of getting a proven, youngish commodity, the assets required and what he'd cost going forward between chancing it on a rookie or targeting Gobert, Capela, Turner or settling for Robinson.
Still, they have enough realistic options that there's a danger of the Spurs pushing too hard, especially considering the Bulls and Raptors don't have nearly as good of expendable assets as the Hornets.
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I’m wondering if all this pro-Duren discussion is really just latent Yak hatred. I mean, does anyone here like Duren AND Yak?
I think Jak is on his way out similar to White. To valuable not to hit that bid and potential targets in the draft to possibly replace him long term.
People here just get a hard on for any trade some journalist schmuck mentions on twitter. So they're obsessed with trading Poeltl. Because he hasn't been traded, it's the worst thing in the world. They'd trade him instantly for PJ Washington and Kai Jones, two players who aren't even close to as good as Poeltl is.
So, yes, the Duren love affair is because he's a 'baller' and because he's not Poeltl, even though Poeltl does everything he does much, much better.
does he have a controlling uncle? does he whine about phantom lingering injuries? does he plan on sitting out a 3rd of every season and never playing both games in a back to back?
I want to keep JRich.
I wanted to keep Poeltl, but I am willing to trade him for someone of substance or even a 1st. Now, if we do trade him, Center becomes an immediate need.
I would not take Duren over Poeltl. Yes, Duren and more athletic, but he is very raw. Poeltl is far more polished, and he has shown some improvement each season with us.
While I’m intrigued by Duren’s athletic profile, youth and upside; I recognise there’s a good chance he becomes a Willy Caulie Stein or Nerlens Noel type too. They’re obviously nowhere near Jakob’s level. And even at Duren’s absolute peak, it’s arguable that he would more effective than Jakob is right now other then say a lob target and more robust low post defensive option…
The only way I potentially see it working is if Jakob serves as a mentor for Duren for half a season and the Spurs feel comfortable handing the ‘C’ reigns to him around the deadline, trading Poeltl as a result. That seems extremely unlikely tbh.
I can see how he isn’t in their longterm plans because they don’t have their true star yet to build around and so they don’t want to open the bank for him. Assuming that’s true, they absolutely should entertain trade offers.
Durant never looked as skinny and weak. Durant also looks quicker and more athletic.
JRich has very little value outside of Spur fans.
Jak has value because he's a center.
50% of this board thinks we can sign and trade Walker and net a return like DDR.
Jak has value because he is an elite defensive big on a cheap contract. Traditional 5s actually aren't worth sh!t these days. Yak at 15/yr is meh.
JRich and an SRP will net you a first, i’m quite confident.
I know this is the draft thread.....but what about some of the players who may not get drafted. Who are some potential UDFAs that you would like the Spurs to go after for the SL?
For me,
PG Carlos Alocen (though if he isn't drafted, probably stays in Spain)
SG Allen Flanigan
SF Matthew Mayer
SF Terrence Shannon Jr.
PF Trayce Jackson-Davis
Spurs need to make some moves to shake up this non playoff roster. Sitting on the current team and hoping everyone will improve is a losing strategy.
I don't think Charlotte will be interested anymore in Poeltl. With picks 13 and 15 they are in position to add a center there without the need for a trade.
Agree with that. Although Duren and Williams could be off the board by the time Charlotte picks at 13. I could see the Knicks taking Williams at 11 as a Mitch Robinson replacement and I can see OKC at 12 and a lot of teams from 5-11 taking Duren. Heck OKC may even take Williams at 12 if Duren is off the board. They need a C badly. And a PF.
I doubt the Hornets will see Walker Kessler or any other C as the answer.
I like Jak, but he’ll be 27 when his contract is up, and he’ll want more money, for sure. Probably time to hit the rest button on the C position, with Zollins on a friendly contract as the bridge to the future center.
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