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Their state tax is <10% I believe. I think taxes are based on where the revenue is earned so that marginal difference is actually only for 41 games. I’ve never once heard state tax been brought up in free agency.
I don’t know Chicago’s tax laws but a max here would probably net about as much as a super max in a state with a high tax rate. I still don’t see it and I absolutely wouldn’t sign and trade for a super max contract. They’re one of the worst things this league has seen.
Their state tax is <10% I believe. I think taxes are based on where the revenue is earned so that marginal difference is actually only for 41 games. I’ve never once heard state tax been brought up in free agency.
Murray
Lavine
Vassell
Covington
Poeltl
Jones
Primo
Keldon
Banchero
Collins
Playoffs team?
Lol Keldon and Banchero would start and yes that is a playoff team.
It’s still a pipe dream at this stage but if we are playing the game I would offer Lavine the max if I’m the Spurs. He has flaws obviously and isn’t a true franchise player but the Spurs seriously need a talent injection and a go to scorer like Lavine. And you have to overpay to lure these types of you are the Spurs. You can build a good team around him. You’d have a good secondary scorer in DeJounte who can average 20 a night. Your team isn’t going anywhere if DJM is your first offensive option let’s be honest. Good defensive potential (Jak, DJM, Vassell, hopefully Sochan), slashing (Vassell and Keldon). 3 point shooting potential is there with Keldon, Vassell and McDermott off the bench.
~50 win team imo and likely second round exit but with plenty of room for growth. Def makes the playoffs as a 4-6 seed.
Oh, it gets brought up most years. I've never seen a free agent decision made based on income net of taxes. Strangely, the agents' cut is based on gross, not net. Just coincidence, I'm sure.
It does make you question the state of accountancy in sports, though.
My guess is that it never drives a decision because a lot of high tax states are desirable places to live and low tax states are less desirable. I live in HI now, and pay lots of extra income tax. Would I trade those taxes to go back to living in Texas? LOL no.
Also, not to delve into the realm of the politics forum, but low-Tax Texas is a myth. Yes, it has no state income tax, but it has one of the highest property tax and sales tax rates in the nation. The gummint still gets theirs, just in different ways. Back to my own personal example below, the savings I get on property tax on my home in HI (which costs 2x as much as my old home in TX) is greater than the additional income tax I pay.
Sounds like an awesome team. My guess is Banchero would start, but with Pop who knows. Keldon probably still starts over Vassell, but thats because I think Vassell would add more to the second unit than being 3rd or 4th option in the starting lineup (which is where Keldon probably needs to be)
Imma die on this hill. Primo ain't a 2 guard. He'd be a 3rd team 3 as of now.
Get off that hill homie…..
Illinois has a flat rate of 4.95% so the difference would be about $1 million. It makes a much bigger difference in NY and California. I believe NY’s top rate is around 16%.
End of story for me. Not because Spurs need star power that you should throw the max at the first good player coming around. Max is supposed to precisely be kept and given to franchise type of players...
Did Marvin Bagley continue to suck it up in DET or did he show any signs?
When Primo can demonstrate he's a worthy ball handler that wont have amongst the league's highest TO rates, I'll consider it. Until then, he's straight 3 and D.
As of now he is still some way off to be called a 3 and D
Dejounte Murray gives me cause for optimism on this front. Murray's TOV% was a horrendous 22.7 in his first season and was still bad in his next two (16.6, 15.4). He has greatly improved in that area, posting a sterling 10.2 last season and 11.8 this season.
Primo's was 16.6 this season. He won't be a primary ball handler like Murray, but I wouldn't write off his potential to cut down on the turnovers yet.
I'm much more concerned about his shooting tbh.
Edit: changed would to wouldn't
Last edited by Seventyniner; 04-21-2022 at 11:07 AM.
His shooting could be due to him rebuilding his shot. However he has terrible TOV% even in the g league couple with average handling and not really showing ability to go pass his man. His current ceiling is 3 and D at best.
Correct, Dejounte was also a turnover waiting to happen. But to soften out all those turnovers, he's always been able to at least cross up a defender and make it to the bucket, when he wasn't coughing it up, since his rookie year.
*That* made it more acceptable for Dejounte to have a higher TO rate. Whereas with Josh, he drives into the paint only to get clogged up and force some ridiculous pocket pass in traffic or gets blocked.
Point being, I'm no where near as inclined to give Primo that patience because he's simply not a scoring threat against set defenses in the paint. Meaning, he's no guard.
He's 3 and D. And clearly a work in progress even there, as XD noted above.
We would get killed defensively with Lavine, Keldon and Banchero on the starting lineup.
I think Vassell fits better on the SL as the 3 and D guy, while Keldon could be the main option coming off the bench.
Better than Keldon, McDougal and Walker/Vassell/Primo
Vassell >>>
Yeah we happily pay greater income taxes to be free of Texas. Never going back.
Spot on, absolutely a myth in Texas given property tax situation. I wonder if Florida has a similar issue though as a non-income state since it seems people DO seem to move there for lower taxes (and weather).
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