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WOOT!!!

[Ef-man]

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[RandomGuy]

UKR will win when RUS is pushed out of their territory, as that seems to be their governments goal.

UKR can only win if they are allowed to join NATO. This is what Russia is pushing back on. UKR has been decimated. Russia will eventually withdraw, just like the US did in Afghanistan recently, but that doesn't mean they lost. UKR will still be in shambles, their dead will remain dead. Mass graves will be mass graves. Just across the border, Russians will be just fine. They just end their incursion because their current goals are met. Do you even know what their current goals are? Do you even care? You're score boarding using propaganda. "We're winning because this tank was hit"... You're just being a fan.

Dude, you are just embarrassing yourself here. You just can't seem to bring yourself to have an honest exchange with anyone. smh.

Russia has already lost.

1) They failed in their first objectives, AND

2) Even if they withdraw now RUS will still have lost a large portion of their conventional offensive capabilities and will be under crippling sanctions for years, unable to recover that back.

The mass graves of their soldiers, and the hollowing out of their professional officer corps means their army is little more than an untrained, unmotivated mob.

I care little for scoreboarding, beyond the other information seen in the videos. Tactics, movements, equipment, etc.

As time goes on, RUS will make their loss worse, because they will fail to achieve even the limited goal of taking Donbas.

Worse, there is a real possibility they will lose Crimea, and end this with LESS territory.

Noe of this has all to do with videos of tanks being blown up. Your need to make me wrong about this makes you look stupid for saying so, AGAIN.

It has everything to do with capabilities. That is what experts asses. Not numbers, like you amateurs do. "on par"

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[RandomGuy]

Civilians never wanted them to begin with. The whole 'separatist' thing pretty much started when Putler sent agents to destabilize the region.

They might have to Mariupol-it, destroy absolutely everything and start over. That said, as long as Kiev is up and running, Ukranians are going to keep on coming...

Agents and troops. The troops were there because they were voluntold to be there, but there were absolutely Russian troops in donbas, otherwise it never would have gone anywhere.

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When they're left laying around willy-nilly it's a war crime.

When they're buried it's a war crime.

[Ef-man]

Another thing that professional military experts notice, but posers like DMC do not:

Palletization and Cranes on cargo trucks to facilitate loading and unloading.

RUS trucks are vastly less efficient per unit of time, because every one of them has to be manually unloaded.

AND has to stay still long enough to be unloaded.

UKR civilian camera drone sending pictures back to artillery platoon: [glowing superpower eyes]

Back to this point. Little non-mechanized labor and over reliance on russians to manhandle ammunition crates off trucks and to work areas.

[Ef-man]

Russians had to dig deep in their warehouses to use some of their dated missiles.

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Trump & Putin sittin' in the old proverbial tree!!!

[Ef-man]

Stick up pootin's ass must have shifted.

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I don't have to ask him, Effy; Splits granted me grace---I was grateful. And I ain't relinquishing said grace. Not for money, marbles, nor chalk, no. Absolutely not...

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[RandomGuy]

So if you do have any sites you think are reliable and informative I would appreciate it.
I just want to know what is actually going as best we can figure. You read a site I found pretty straight forward even if partisan.
Most people on this site it seems dont care what is actually important militarily. Blowing up a big airplane in a hangar stuff (Thread) is typical of the nothingness that has permeated this thread.

I have been, and continue to be, skeptical of UKR's claims of RUS casualties.

That said, it is looking more like they get a lot closer than most realize. They exaggerate of course, but not by much. That is kind of shocking.

Best website I found:
https://www.understandingwar.org/

Twitter handles that I follow that have been informative on a consistent basis:

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical - decent analysis
https://twitter.com/kamilkazani - political and logistical discussions, specializing in history and RUS background
https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko - logistics expert
https://twitter.com/RALee85 - Russian analyst
https://twitter.com/ronzheimer -German reporter. (mostly use it to brush up, and to get some native German perspective)
https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop -Dutch guy taking on the onerous task of cataloging RUS and UKR losses via OSINT in social media.
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews ELINT news. heh. it's in the name.
https://twitter.com/andersostlund Swede follows regional politics.

I have found diving into twitter threads to be useful for getting into specialized esoteric topics. The collective brain is kind of astonishing sometimes.

A few more. some former US generals and so forth.

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[RandomGuy]

Russians had to dig deep in their warehouses to use some of their dated missiles.

Eyup. They can't make anymore of these things. Kleptocracies simply can't attract and keep talent, or manage factories.

The self-sufficient autoarchy of the USSR is long, long gone.

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The self-sufficient autoarchy of the USSR is long, long gone.

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd