They could draft his replacement this year. The team is not stagnant as there will be changes. The spurs need to change the current core of this team. It's a non playoff team and no where near a contender as constructed. Expecting everyone to improve is not the way to go. The spurs need a go to scorer and star player, as it lacks scoring punch and athleticism. The league and best teams are driven by the star players and the Spurs don't have these type of players on the current roster.
What do you envision getting for him? I'd want a late lottery pick and a not too bad filler contract. Wouldn't move him for a pick in the 20s unless the filler contract for cap matching purposes is someone interesting. No matter what I'd want the Spurs picking best available though, not trying to draft for position when the team is still pretty sparse on talent.
Agree with this. H
Just curious the replacement for him like Scott.
Another great point. There is no reason to dump Jak for the sake of dumping him. I've seen talk of getting 13 or 15 from CHA for him. Okay... then what? Someone needs to play C... at least one would assume.
I like Mayer as a catch and shoot player. I also like the 6 fouls he has available to waste to preserve a key player.Every year I try to pick out UFA prospects. I screamed for Fred VanVleet, and got laughed at. I called for Max Strus and got laughed at, and now he's starting for the #1 team in the Eastern Conference. Last year Kenyon Martin Jr., but he wound up going at 52 or 53. This year it seems that Andrew Nembhard is being overlooked (though we won't know until draft night). If his name doesn't get called, I would absolutely have some kind of contract waiting for him - at least a two-way to get him into the gym.
I actually like Terrence Shannon. He's a big, strong kid who can handle contact, and he can shoot open 3's. But if I'm being honest, I think he's G-League fodder. Not a bad idea, though.
I'm a HUGE fan of Auburn's program, and I liked Flanigan last year, but I didn't keep up with him. I don't know what happened to him this year, though. Do you? If it was an injury, he might be someone who could make it on someone's bench.
I more than half expect Trayce Jackson-Davis to get called by someone in the second round. If he doesn't, he's probably at least worth a two-way.
I've also been a fan of Baylor products in the recent past, but not Matthew Mayer.
Carlos Alocen? Did you read that in an article somewhere? Be honest.
Alocen, saw his name on a draft site and so I watched some of his videos. I liked what I saw. He isn't a world beater, hence the UDFA. Still, I think he could make some noise in the SL.
As a note, Poeltl was the #9 pick. Granted, it was in 2016 when the league was still evolving. But dumping him for a #13 or #15 pick is very much underselling what he can do in the league right now.
You can't say that's underselling when the drafts are different. This draft is deeper with better players.
You can get Duren at 9 and Agbaji at 13 and dump Walker.
That would be awful. I could only hope Duren will be as good as Poeltl in several years and I wouldn't pick Ogbaji until the 20s.
Ogbaji would immediately start at the 2 and is better than what the Spurs have at the 2.
Poeltl has no vertical lift. Not an imposing defender or rebounder. Duren is already better in that area. Poeltl has a nice offensive game around the basket but not a great finisher on the break. Poeltl can make an occasional block or stop because of his height and lenght but he isn't going to intimate many going to the basket.
Duren would be an adequate replacement with greater upside.
The Spurs need to make some changes to the current roster because they lack star talent, shooting and athleticism as compared with other teams.
You're going to have to move some players to make these changes or you're just going to stay with the current roster and hope players develop into stars and I don't see anyone developing into a top player in the league on the current roster..
A college player who hasn’t spent a minute on an NBA court is supposedly a better defender right now than Poeltl
Making baseless claims such as the upcoming draft class is better than an older one is about as foolish as it gets.
then years later, it’s like amnesia. Nothing learned. Nothing preventing them from saying the same stupid again. Every year is supposedly better.
no one likes to play the long game. It’s today. Everything now. I want it now. What I see now only matters. How the do you guys manage your bills and investments?
does anyone understand the concept of building ON something? Is it always destruction and reconstruction?
All drafts are not equal.A college player who hasn’t spent a minute on an NBA court is supposedly a better defender right now than Poeltl
Making baseless claims such as the upcoming draft class is better than an older one is about as foolish as it gets.
then years later, it’s like amnesia. Nothing learned. Nothing preventing them from saying the same stupid again. Every year is supposedly better.
no one likes to play the long game. It’s today. Everything now. I want it now. What I see now only matters. How the do you guys manage your bills and investments?
does anyone understand the concept of building ON something? Is it always destruction and reconstruction?
This year's draft class is better and deeper than last year's.
They aren't but a more fair comparison should be a few years out atleast. This draft by season’s end looks much better than it did as recent as Dec 21.
If those 2 are already better or equal than what we already have, how would they be available at 9 and 13?
Because neither Primo nor Poeltl would go before the top 9 in this draft.
Ogbaji already has a more polished game than Primo, Primo wouldn't be getting drafted at 13 now.
Ok but what replacement? Who? Who's gonna bring even a shadow of what Jak or even Collins bring? Not any rook, that's for sure...This is robbing Peter to pay Paul... Some peeps want to trade Jak to get some scoring power by massively downgrading on defense... There's 5 guys on the court.
Collins and Landale would start and it’s not just trading Poodle to trade him for two reasons one his contract is coming up and it’s going to cost a lot of money and two if a team offers you a good trade you look at and evaluate it. So just for kicks as some posters have mentioned you trade Poodle to Charlotte for there 13 , and 15th pick and you give Charlotte our 20 and 25 pick and some feller of course. No matter who we pick your right we would probably have a worse year in 2023 but that’s OK it’s not like we’re anywhere close to winning he’ll we can’t even win a Play in game. So sometimes you take a foot backwards in order to make future Progress.
If were able to get into top 4 and then have a 13th and 15th the message board would shut down for weeks. Then you add that our rookies will get a lot of G League live and were probably looking at a top 6 pick in 2023.
Last edited by BackHome; 04-23-2022 at 02:13 PM.
Yikes. I’m all for testing the market for Jak but I’d like a D White return or better and I think that is possible this offseason. Two ten spot pick swaps is not enough.
Collins and Landale as the starting 4 and 5 may be one of the worst starting front courts of recent memory. That with Keldon at the 3, Vassell at the 2 and DJ running point is a sured 15-20 win team. Guaranteed high % top 3 pick so also not against it.
The Kings have the 7th worst record. If they end up with 7th pick and Mathurin is still on the board . . .
To Hornets: Poeltl, Celtics 1st
To Kings: Richardson, Washington Jr., Spurs 1st, Raptors 1st
To Spurs: Barnes, Jones, Kings 1st, Hornets/Hawks 1st
Starters: Barnes, Johnson, Collins, Vassell, Murray
Bench: Mathurin, McDermott, Hartenstein, T. Jones, Primo, K. Jones, Hornets/Hawks 1st
I’d rather part out Jak and JRich seperatlely for further out FRPs. At best that starting lineup will get us right back to the play-in!!!
They're not interested in tanking though and even if they were, they'd have a tough time getting top odds.
So within' the confines of what they're trying to do, this makes a lot of sense.
If Mathurin can become a star, great. If not, keep building up the depth to have a package to trade for one and still have enough left over to have an appealing team.
U said Ogbaji is better than what we have at 2. When all are healthy Vassell is our starting 2. Also you must be dreaming to think that the current Poeltl would not be drafted in top 10.
No, Primo and Walker are the SG. Ogbaji is better than those guys.
Go look up the line up when McD is not injuried after the DW trade.
Devin Vassell was literally the starter from the trade deadline to the end of the season….
GM Wright has work to do to make sense of his roster. At the trade deadline I was excited to make any trades but upon further review, yeah, let’s not give him away. He’s our best obvious trade asset.
It could easily drag out until the next season trade deadline but I would think they have more leverage this Summer, maybe, when our intentions are less obvious. I like Kai. Less of PJ the more I see his stats. And then of course who gets drafted? But it’s hard to see the team starting a rookie or Jock next year. So I see them holding onto Yak more than starting Duren or Jock. I think. But we’ll see. I definitely think they should trade rather than give Yak a big raise.
I actually have some confidence in Wright now. Might actually be exciting on draft day for the first time ever.
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