Wendell Moore. Seems like a Spurs player. Faced some adversity. Does many things well. Was a 5 star recruit that was then overlooked. I could see him with the 20th pick. Would be another shooting guard playing small forward, however. Anyone have strong thoughts about him?
His defensive profile looks weak.
I mentioned Moore somewhere a little while ago. Defense is one thing he's good at, actually, and he might have room to grow even as a junior. He improved every year. He's more of a glue guy, potential 3 & D, and may be getting a bit slept on compared to his teammates (Banchero, Griffin, Williams). He might be a value pick in the 20s.
With so many future first round and lottery NBA picks on Duke why didn't they win the tournament?
I think all the Duke players are overrated where they are expected to go in the draft except for Banchero and I don't think Moore is all that good as the other three are better and will get drafted higher.
Because Coach K is overrated as . He once had Carlos Boozer, Jayson Williams, and Mike Dunleavy and didn't win the championship. The only time Calipari won the championship was during the NBA lockout, forcing players like Kidd-Gilchrist and Anthony Davis to stay. He double dipped with blue chips and stumbled into a trophy. Why didn't Stephen Curry win a championship at Davidson? Why didn't Tim Duncan win a championship at Wake Forest? By your logic Coach Cal is the worst coach of all time because he's placed dozens of players in the first round and only has won one time.
I could see him being in the mix in the early 20's if we don't package the picks to more up. I've got him 23rd overall but, I do like his fit here if we make a couple moves..
I kind of want to come out of the draft with a PF, a C prospect, and a shooting guard wing. That's the order I prioritize them. Not sold on Moore by any means, but he'd be in the mix.
Duncan didn't have help on his team. With so called four top players if you include Wendell Moore you would think Duke would win this year.
I'd love to see draft combine type numbers on Keegan Murray-- vertical, lane agility, etc-- but being almost a certain lottery pick, he probably won't participate. I've read numerous scouting reports recently guessing that his natural athleticism is less than that of the other top prospects, but I wonder how accurate that is. Early reports on Murray seemed to emphasize his athleticism... I wonder if it's a case of scouting fatigue, since he's been dominating the college game since very early in the season. His stocks numbers are significantly better than Paolo, Jabari, Griffin, or Sochan's... interesting case.
I think Keegan is unfortunately at a stage where he can only hinder his stock with more exposure. People are already at a point where they are nitpicking relatively minor flaws in his game due to his age, physical dominance relative to compe ion etc.
The best thing he can do is participate in as many team and media interviews as possible and release an open gym, work out/shooting video, letting the chips fall where they may. He shouldn’t drop out of the top 10 which I would imagine suits him just fine.
I did not follow Moore this year but he looked good in some games during March Madness. He could be a good 3 and D in the league imo.
Really good defender, good shooter, playmaker but lack a little bit of athletism and looks inconsistent time to time.
Perfect candidate in the 20s.
Who do you like more? Moore or Keels from Duke?
I'm leaning towards Keels for that unusual Defensive profile.
Not an easy call, they both have a good IQ and they have some good playmaking abilities plus a good shooting touch. They are also inconsistent sometimes and not really athletic.
I have them in the same tier, if i choose one i may go with Keels for the physical attributes ( not pure athletism but strong body) but Moore makes more sense for the Spurs imo ( plus he's a little bit better on D ).
I'd rather have Leonard Miller instead of him. More upside with Miller
Murray IS a lottery pick, end of story. I still think he goes at 5, but maybe 6 if someone likes the potential star upside in Sharpe. If he declines to come to the combine it's a yellow flag, but I've seen players get some bad advice from agents and family members bofore. And I've been convinced in the past that some players stay out of the combine when they've gotten hard interest from a team that they really want to play for.
I don't know if Murray will be a star, but he's an NBA player. I wouldn't have any problem with Pop just throwing him into the fire from the beginning, and letting the young guys sort of grow up together. I'm not saying he would be my first choice, and I don't think he'll make it to #9, so I haven't really been thinking about him anymore.
Top picks should stay out of the combine. I woudn't regard it as a yellow flag. We've all the tape we need on Murray at this point. I could see his brother going, however.
I said a while back that I could see Keegan Murray drop as a couple players get picked higher unexpectedly and then the following teams stick with who they wanted, like how Paul Pierce dropped. I see a similar game between them. But now I don't think this will happen. I expect him to go top 6 or 7.
Was a little underwhelmed by Wendell Moore at Duke this season tbh. Not that he’s not a good player, I just thought he’d have a better season. He sorta deferred a bit to the other big names at Duke this season I think, which is understandable given their roster. Maybe my expectations were a little too high.
He’s a good defender though. The type of player who does the little things that don’t show up in the box score, which I like. Good spot-up 3-pt shooter at 41%. Solid FT shooter at 80%. FG% at 50% is good. Seems to know his role. Wish he was taller, but can’t have it all. Seems like the type of player that would thrive on the Warriors. I bet they’re hoping he slips to them.
That Paul Pierce draft class is funny to look at (1998).
1. Michael Olowokandi
2. Mike Bibby
3. Raef LaFrentz
4. Antawn Jamison
5. Vince Carter
6. Robert Traylor
7. Jason Williams
8. Larry Hughes
9. Dirk Nowitzski
10. Paul Pierce
11. Bonzi Wells
12. Michael Doleac
13. Keon Clark
14. Michael erson
Obviously they don't map exactly, but Chet Holmgren would be Olowokandi, Ivey is Mike Bibby, Jabari Smith is the tall PF who only shoots 3s, Banchero is Antawn Jamison, and all four teams ed up by not picking the #5 guy.
I agree it's unlikely, but I'd be happy if Murray dropped. I've just been seeing numerous references suddenly to "limited" athleticism or his having "topped out." Pretty crazy, considering the jump guys like Brandon Ingram made at 24, Dejounte made at 25, or Chris Boucher made at 27.
There’s definitely a world where Keegan Murray falls I just don’t know if it’ll be to 9
1. Jabari
2. Paulo
3. Chet
4. Ivey
5. Sharpe
6. Mathurin
7. Davis
8. Griffin
9. Murray
I think Mathurin and Sharpe continue to rise and I’m seeing more Johnny Davis rising too lately
The Spurs can pick at 1-4 (20.2%) or 9-13 (79.8%). I'd be shocked if Keegan Murray makes it to the top 4, and not shocked but surprised he'd fall to 9 (still possible). So it'd take a huge overreach (picking him top 4) or an unlikely scenario (falling to 9 or below) for him to become a Spur. And I don't think he's worth trading up and giving up other valuable assets in the process. So I'd be surprised if he ends up a Spur.
Put your mind at ease boys. Spurs will re-sign Fat Head this off-season and all of our PF woes will be absolved
Last edited by BatManu20; 04-30-2022 at 03:30 PM.
AJ Griffin has the risks of MPJ without the upside. He could drop like a rock if his medical records are not convincing.
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