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Yup. It's a no from me, but then again, I have never been a stan for him.
I'm just yanking your chain. I don't know from Canada. Of all the factors about Shaedon, the least I'm worried about is where he was born.
Yup. It's a no from me, but then again, I have never been a stan for him.
I know, I know. I guess my point is there is a certain level of humility from Canadian players as they have already made it just to play D1 ball.
I prefer a PF at the 9th pick. But if they have an opportunity to draft a pure scorer like Shaedon Sharpe, I wouldn’t be a bit upset. The Spurs needed a goto scorer and that’s what this kid brings. And he could score in bunches. So he be at SG, and Devin moves to SF. The Spurs need to decide what to do with Keldon, which is the defensive achilles heel. They need a big body next to Poeltl at PF position. Keldon could be the odd man unless he comes off from the bench at 6th man.
But again I have a feeling that history would repeat itself, and the Spurs would have an opportunityto draft a top 2. Welcome home Chet
Top 10 Canadians, MP
1) Rick Fox
2) Andrew Wiggins
3) Tristan Thompson
4) Cory Joseph
5) Jamaal Magliore
6) Kelly Olynyk
7) Jamal Murray
8) Bill Wennington
9) Dwight Powell
10) Trey Lyles
27) Mike Smrek
31) Joshua Primo
yes. The more I think about it, the more Canadian this dude seems. Steve Nash would finish second in a nice-off with this guy.
No character issues here, just move along. And it’s not just that he’s a Canuck.
He’s a pure shooter (timvp said no less). How many pure shooters have character issues? Those things just don’t go together. Why? Cuz you have to practice to be a great shooter. It’s just the law as Ralph Lawler would say. (And it’s not the most fun thing to practice, not like those indolent Americans practicing their ing dunks.)
But the thing that really seals it is a third discreet factor that emerges from his tapes, the few tapes that there are. (For reference, I’m including, above, a reel that Mnky posted way back in the Draft Discussion thread.)
Sharpe passes the ball like nobody passes the ball these days. He passes the ball just like ing John Wooden, himself, insisted that all his “fine Christian young men” do it. Two hands. The perfect pass emanating from the geometric midpoint of the young man’s bod. Popovich himself thought that type of pristine pass was too extreme to insist upon in this day and age (even under Pop’s regime of “Marshall” law as Marjorie Taylor Greene might say). The on-set basketball advisor for the movie “Hoosiers” even thought that same two-handed pass was too ing crazy to include in that classic film (yet even he insisted that Gene Hackman repeatedly yell out “Run the picket fence!” like an unconsoled lunatic). Look at 2:34 and 3:06. He does it, he does it reflexively, like drinking ing water. This seals the deal, this wins the ing day. There can be no further analysis. Case closed. He probably puts his ing socks on just the way Wooden insisted. (Only Manu Ginobili has passed the ball that way in modern basketball history -- and I find it no mere coincidence that he hails from the ing Canada of South America!)
And then there’s defense. Oh, how our own timvp pooh-poohed master Sharpe’s defensive chops. Take a look at 3:24 and 4:55. I’ll say no more.
I’m sorry timvp, but you’ve shortchanged this young man and, more blasphemously, you’ve shortchanged our beloved Spurs and their entire ing organization. This is exactly the kind of young mensch the Spurs would take.
You can’t rely upon NBA scouts to give you the “skinny” as it were on these things. NBA scouts are an embittered and often alcoholic breed. (I can relate.) They simply want to justify their filthy excursions to such metropoli as Lexington ing Kentucky to expense-report their trysts with inarguable and notorious trollups. Young Sharpe denied them that dissolute pleasure. No wonder they hate him.
I’m going all in right here, right now. I’m going contrarian. Like George C. Scott in “Patton” when he exclaimed “Rommel, you magnificent bas , I read your book!” And later when he exclaimed ”That’s exactly why I think they’ll do it” after dutifully reciting the historical fact that that the German army had never mounted a winter offensive since the time of Frederick the Great. "Therefore," he said, "I believe that's exactly what they're going to do."
If the Spurs don’t move up to the top four, if they must pick between 9 and 11, and if young Sharpe is somehow there, they shall take pluck him as if unrequited bees before a bright-faced (yet seemingly unloved) flower. Yes they will. Probably. Maybe, at least.
Sincerely, C. Kinbote
The limited tape alone screams that Sharpe is something special. Smooth with explosiveness, a quick release on his shot and sensational at finishing at the rim and only 18 years old so some room to get even better. You can't teach that type of athleticism.
If they reached for Primo at 12 who doesn't look anywhere near as good as Sharpe, than passing on Sharpe because he was held out of playing the last two months for Kentucky after joining the team late makes no sense.
I thought you would be smarter than that timvp and would be able to see Sharpe's talent alone would be enough for the Spurs to not pass him up if given the chance to draft him.
That may be true if the limited tape (fact) were independent of his actions. Fact is, there's limited tape because he deliberately wanted it to be the case. And given he's free to choose, one is free to read into his choosing. And my reading is, he's afraid he won't deliver, and that speaks of his character, his conditions, or both. Which is why I wouldn't take him if we make the top 4. Just too much of a risk.
Same. People also need to realize that basketball isn't jump shots and dunks and chase down blocks. It's everything else. You can be thrilled by how athletic a dude is, or the smoothness of his jumpshot, but that doesn't tell you what you really need to know about a player. Sharpe doing the James Wiseman thing of hiding himself isn't good to me. A lack of compe iveness, a sneakiness, an adherence to image and money rather than the game. There's a reason the scout said the Spurs wouldn't be interested in him.
You do realize that virtually everything you've seen of Primo is against older professional players, either in the gleague or NBA, and everything you see of Sharpe is against HS kids, most of whom will be working at 7-11 next year, right?
You think they'd have learned that lesson after Lonnie, the ultimate tease.
I see Sharpe as being more explosive and more gifted athletically as compared to Primo. He's a much better prospect with higher potential.
Foolish reasoning and you'll miss out on him. Sharpe himself isn't the one who said he wasn't going to play for Kentucky this past year.
Sharpe will turn out better than anyone the Spurs get at 9.
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This guy is playing hide and seek. He doesn’t want to show anything, for fear of dinging his draft stock. The Spurs won’t draft him to keep in the top 4, and I have my doubts about picking him at 9, if he’s there.
Lonnie has all of that, and flopped.
I think he'll be drafted before the pick 9.
With all due respect, the comparison of Sharpe to Lonnie Walker is inapt, exstatic, for one salient reason -- I hated Lonnie (before he was drafted) and I love Sharpe now (also before the pick). That makes all the difference, cosmicly speaking, my good friend.
On 2018, draft night, when the immortal Lonnie Walker IV had “fallen” to the Spurs at No. 18, I dissented:
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post9433974
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...=1#post9433935
The young mensch I wanted them to draft, BTW, is one of the starting five on a playoff team!
Sharpe does things, even now, that our Lonnie cannot even dream of on a good hair day. Lonnie is an enthusiastic puppy, jumping about aimlessly. Sharpe passes the ball just as John ing Wooden himself prescribed, emanating from the geometric midpoint of the young man’s bod, good sir. I rest my case!
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He wasn't going to start on Kentucky joining the team at mid season and that would hurt his draft stock if he wasn't getting minutes.
He isn't making the decisions not to play, Calipari and Sharpe's mentor Dwayne Washington are deciding things for him.
But Thkip
At that time, Kentucky lost their two lead guards to injury.
Kentucky had also beaten eventual National Champion Kansas 80-62 (at Kansas).
What need did they have to tinker with their lineup mid-season, good sir?
Also Sharpe needed some time practicing with the team and for conditioning. They were not going to throw in the starting lineup on day one.
So 6’6 pre draft means he is probably 6’4? If he is our guy than hopefully Walker, Vassell and Primo are gone.
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