Spida is on a cheaper deal and younger but probably
costs you alot more in a trade.
I prefer a healthy Lavine. Seems tk be a better character, teammate, more willing to play defence. Alot bigger.
I'm a little torn but ultimately I'll have to agree with you... I prefer Mitc strictly as a player(less injury prone) but, the whole diva thing he's been doing in Utah makes me believe he wouldn't fit here. Lavine's character gives him an edge with me..
I hope that one is true...
It’s real… and I don’t think it surprises anybody. Rudy and Donovan haven’t gotten along since Rudy started the Covid nBA lockdown by hanging out hugging everyone while having symptoms. Only downhill from there.
If Gobert really is saying things like that, and they're getting leaked to the public, his relationship with Mitc is doomed. The Jazz are basically forced to trade one of them now.
Losing in the first round to the Mavs with Doncic only playing 3 games is a good excuse to break things up anyway.
He’s already denied it. The idea of getting traded in the next few days is also suspect.
I can’t imagine trading for either of these guys. Go sign Dipo and Whiteside for 25mm combined and duck out in the 1st round for a quarter buck.
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It’s the tip of the iceberg IMO. Obviously trade doesn’t need yo happen right away. Look at how long Dallas took to move Porzinguis.
Yeah, agreed. They’ve been playing just the tip for awhile and now the Jazz are about to get fked LOL. I think they’ve both shown they are immature and over paid but will still likely command a decent return. Jazz would be smart to sell both right now. No interest from my vantage point.
Ok so I don't know how these QO things work, but can we offer Jordan Poole the max after next year? Bc if the answer is yes, then I don't see how Golden St can afford that. I would love for us to get him somehow. And if Golden St does match the offer then we can get Wiggins who is a legit 3 with size and speed of a 3 and a plus defender. Something like 3 years 90 million would do it. Either way is a win for us. I'm starting to see a light out of this playoff drought
Poole likely gets an extension this summer before he becomes a UFA in 2023.
Wiggins has been solid these last few years on both sides of the ball and could be a potential target in 2023 but 30/yr is a steep price. Warriors are fully committed to Steph/Klay/Donkey’s final years together so I doubt they let Wiggins walk for free. That might up his price.
It looks like Minnesota is going to try and unload Russell this summer... I'm not sure it impacts us directly (unless we're interested) but, it might have a tangential effect..
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Utah should dump both Mitc and Gobert. Just start over. Keeping one of them isn't going to work.
D'Angelo Russell makes an insane amount of money, but it looks like only one more season.
Timberwolves want to get better, so they will be looking for some veterans that can help their core now in exchange. Do not be proposing salary dumps in exchange for their picks because that does nothing for them. Richardson could be an interesting piece, but it really depends here on what Minnesota wants and what else is there for the taking in the trade market.
The situation in Utah will be interesting just from a spectator POV.
That thing you posted about Gobert and Mitc the other day was pretty strong. I sort of laughed - my first thought was, "Denial in 3, 2, 1..." Almost any time you see one of those stories about players not liking each other, or a player and coach not getting along, they almost always deny everything instantly. But there's usually at least a little fire behind the smoke. I thought the bit about a trade within days was a little much, and I don't see Utah having any kind of fire sale over it.
No interest in Donovan Mitc . Ask yourself this: when's the last time a team with a 6'1" starting SG won a championship? For three straight years, the Jazz have been slightly better with him off the floor than with him on. CJ McCollum became immediately more effective in New Orleans after they made him the PG and put a great defender next to him. Portland wasted the better part of a decade losing early in the playoffs with a micro back court that couldn't stop anyone.
mitc is too poor of a defender to give up value for and then turn around and tie up all that cap space with.
Both Mitc and Gibert make me puke in my mouth. They make Ben Simmons look intriguing.
For the pipe dreamers remember that outside of their max contracts they aren’t Russ type depressed contracts so you’ll have to pay up in assets just to have the pleasure to pay max for of their services.
Not saying I love the thought of paying Gobert 40 mil a season but i have to wonder if him getting sonned in the playoffs is more a result of the fact that the other 4 players around him are turnstiles on defense.
Video does a pretty good job of illustrating this point. Imagine Gobert on a team with a bunch of lanky dudes that actually get after it on defense. Put him on a team like Boston and they are instantly the le favorites. Not saying he puts us in contention but if a scenario somehow presented itself to get Lavine by swinging a trade for Gobert and showing that we're serious about winning and Spurs could field a big three of DJ/Lavine/Gobert, i think you have to try. no real shot of happening obviously but fun to think about
Gobert could out a top team over the top for sure; as a final piece when you are already well over the cap.Not saying I love the thought of paying Gobert 40 mil a season but i have to wonder if him getting sonned in the playoffs is more a result of the fact that the other 4 players around him are turnstiles on defense.
Video does a pretty good job of illustrating this point. Imagine Gobert on a team with a bunch of lanky dudes that actually get after it on defense. Put him on a team like Boston and they are instantly the le favorites. Not saying he puts us in contention but if a scenario somehow presented itself to get Lavine by swinging a trade for Gobert and showing that we're serious about winning and Spurs could field a big three of DJ/Lavine/Gobert, i think you have to try. no real shot of happening obviously but fun to think about
Gobert as a building block when you are one of the worst teams in the league with no real cornerstone players like the Spurs? That is a death wish.
Like I said, not really a fan of the idea of paying him 40 million a season. Would entertain it if Lavine told SA he would join the Spurs if they could add another star or something, kinda like Kawhi/PG. It's not the best big three for sure but the NBA has been pretty wide open the last couple years with no super teams so this could be a chance to capitalize. but for sure i realize that this is incredibly unlikely to happen and even if it did we'd probably have 2nd round ceiling max
Stay.Away.From.Russell
I'd keep Mitc for now. One of the podcast shows was speculating GSW with the Wiggins expiring contract and Wiesman as the foundations for the framework. Naturally, Utah would want draft assets to go with given Wiggins' expiring status and uncertainty around Weisman, but I can see that benefiting both teams.
I'd just re-sign Jak in this case. Once you hold for the style points, the drop off between his and Yaks production is not THAT much by the numbers. Hard pass on Rudy's contract.Not saying I love the thought of paying Gobert 40 mil a season but i have to wonder if him getting sonned in the playoffs is more a result of the fact that the other 4 players around him are turnstiles on defense.
Video does a pretty good job of illustrating this point. Imagine Gobert on a team with a bunch of lanky dudes that actually get after it on defense. Put him on a team like Boston and they are instantly the le favorites. Not saying he puts us in contention but if a scenario somehow presented itself to get Lavine by swinging a trade for Gobert and showing that we're serious about winning and Spurs could field a big three of DJ/Lavine/Gobert, i think you have to try. no real shot of happening obviously but fun to think about
Do we think any of these teams cough up assets to dump they deals:
- ATL: Danilo's last year (~21M)
- SAC: Barnes last year (~18M)
- LAC: Bledsoe's last year (~19M)
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