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Jesus that is atrocious
Gobert
22-23. $38.2
23-24. $41.0
24-25. $43.8
25-26. $46.6 Player Option
Jesus that is atrocious
True, he hasn't asked out yet, but Utah's repeated playoff failures, the suggested friction between him and Mitc and the current cold streak right in time for the playoffs are smoke at the very least.
I don't know if we could do better honestly. Gobert is, in lack of better words, an award-winning talent and has a positive impact on winning games. How many of those players would be willing to go to San Antonio and stay there mid- to long-term? How many of them have already shown that they are content with playing in a small market like SA? Murray might be an exception, but he was drafted here. Considering the success the Spurs had with international players, this might work better than many people expect it to.
Thanks for reminding, hadn't looked up the exact year. But even with the rule changes, he still has an impact on winning games. And hypothetically, just like the 2013 ruleset, the current rules aren't set in stone forever, shown by the somewhat successful distinction in "basketball play" and "non-basketball move" implimented last summer.
Gobert might not be a superstar right now, but he is definitely a star. Also, I would agree with the statement by Sugus (I think) that Gobert hasn't reached his potential peak yet. A lot of that is on the team structure in Utah. I'm watching Jazz games from time to time with my dad, and it's mind-boggling how Gobert gets blatantly ignored many nights. With a massive height advantage on most of his defenders, he should get way more touches than he actually does. I'm pretty sure his numbers would go up significantly on a team that features the 5 in its sets heavily like the Spurs do, and pairing him with good-to-great defenders in Murray and Vassell could make him even more dominant on the defensive end.
This team woudn't be an instant championshp favorite, but (a) this year's favorites in both conferences would currently be out of the playoffs in the pre-covid format and (b) a top3-pick isn't really a guaranteed road to success either (draft odds, will the pick be healthy, does the pick have an uncle, etc). If Gobert is on the table this summer, this very well might be the best available move for San Antonio to become at least a contender for the next five years.
Snyder may wait longer than Prince Charles.
I was at the game last night and concentrated on watching Pop patrol the sideline. He's into it.
He was interacting with every player on the bench.
Pop seems to really like this young team, maybe to prove he can win without three (so far) Hall of Famers.
Everyone knew it was absolute dog the second it was reported. The only people I saw who defended it were Jazz fans, and I don't even think the consensus of them were for it.
You understand that your trade has the Jazz sending out a FRP, the very definition of a salary dump. You only do that with bad contract, negative assets.
Yes and if you were following along you can see I was debating your point. Sugus is the one who suggested Jazz would have to attach an FRP to which I disgreed.
Popovich will retire at the end of this year and the Sours will hire Bill Self. New opportunities for both.
Nope on both. Have you seen Self on the sidelines? He constantly has forehead veins bulging out His demeanor doesn’t lend itself to a league where the players call the shots. It’s really tough for anyone to give up the power that they hold, and NCAA coaches hold all of it in their programs.
Pop isn’t going anywhere. If he were, Becky wouldn’t be leaving. She’d at least stick around for an interview. Pops just having way too much fun coaching the young guys.
Yup...would be sooo un-Spursy of PATFO to take on a contract like that.
Sorry, but there is no way the Utah Jazz are salary dumping Gobert. Yes, he's expensive, no they're not going to pay someone with draft picks to take him.
That being said, this is a pretty big make or break year for the team so its not impossible one of their two stars ends up on the market if they flame out in the playoffs but I'd expect Mitc to be the one traded due to his more movable contract. I think a lot of people underrate how much Gobert changes the game in favor of the Jazz tho. That being said, still probably overpaid, but most stars are so yeah.
Holy , we agree on something!
But yes, I think trading Mitc makes more sense for them. The whole idea of a back court with two 6''1" guys is kind of frustrating anyway, and likely doomed to fail. Give Gobert more defenders and let him do his thing more easily & effectively, rather than forcing him to put out fires nonstop all over the court.
Last edited by R. DeMurre; 04-05-2022 at 03:03 PM.
Utah blows yet another huge lead at home in the 4th quarter. 3rd time in like 10 days
Unless they throw the bag at him, Snyder won’t want any part of that circus.
What exactly is the gain in hiring Snyder?
For any team.
He’s not bad, and why shouldn’t he get offers when awful re-treads like Mark Jackson and Doc Rivers consistently do?
It’s not his fault that the top two players on his roster don’t get along. Not the first time that’s ever happened. Dallas went through a prototype version of The Process in the 90s, and wound up with 3 consecutive top 4 picks, and drafted Jim Jackson, Jamal Mashburn, and Jason Kidd, and NONE of them could get along. No one blamed the coach, and eventually all of them would be shipped out.
Most people don't know it, but the tampering rules absolutely apply to coaches as well. You could look it up.
That's a solid basis for a rehire.
His 21-30 playoff record the last 6 years compares favorably with Pops 12-16.
I hate to continue the Gobert discussion, since this is a thread about Snyder. But did any of you really pay attention to Gobert's numbers this year.
He's only good from 10' in (really more like 6'), but he shot .713 on them! ORtg of 137, and DRtg of 103? Led the league with 14.7 RB per game and had 2.1 blocks and 6.7 FTA per game?
For a couple of years, people were slobbering all over Gobert... then they sort of stopped. He didn't get worse - Utah just built around Donovan Mitc . But the one thing I can say for sure is that IF they decided to get rid of Gobert, they don't give assets, they get them.
Have a second look at Gobert's ORtg (137) and DRtg (103). Consider that Mitc is on the same team, and had an ORtg of 114, and a DRtg of 111 this year. No stat is perfect, especially in a vacuum, but you can't ignore a disparity that large between two starters on the same team.
I think people were more pro Gobert before this contract kicked in. His 34YO contract amount is $46M. That’s a lot for a rim running/protecting center.
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