Spurs have a a chunk of recent history of seeking out one dimensional shooters and never learning their lesson. They did outbid the rest of the league on a 3 year deal for a 30 year old McDermott. They did get Forbes twice. They went after and signed Marco twice.
Seems pretty fair to mock Griffin to the Spurs with that context
I was very impressed with Jake Laravia shooting and his combine numbers he was a lot more athletic then I thought. One question do you think he is a pure PF a SF or combo?
I agree I really looking for length and athleticism and a dog either on offense or defense no Beta’s
Dog on Defense:
Sochran
Tari
Daniels
Davis
Dog on Offense:
Davis
Blake Wesley
Williams
Terquavian Smith
Liddell
Beta:
AJ Griffin
Baldwin
The closest the spurs have been to using a draft pick on a chucker is james anderson. The other players you mentioned were 2nd round afterthoughts, undrafteds, and journeyman players. Not saying they don't love chuckers, but they don't use frp on them
Exactly. All this talk and lusting after these non shooting, role playing fours; I don't get it. I understand the need to fill that position, but not with those types (at least at 9).
If there's a roster in the league screaming for offensive dynamism in the worst way, it's this. Murray and Mathurin come closest as they at least have clear paths to being ancillary scorers and the draft will be a failure if they don't land one or trade the pick for a young veteran who fits that description.
I don't care if it takes a slight overpay to do it either. Just figure out a way to land a projected core piece instead of loading up on more spare parts.
I'm not sure Murray will be the scorer you think. He's not the one who creates the separation against some NCAA players , tough he was older ...i'm not sold on his ceilling offensively. His quickness and ball handling makes me think he will be a good role player to 3rd option on a team if he develops well. I could be wrong on this.
I agree for Mathurin, i will bring Davis too.
I wouldn’t trade Poeltl. He’s the team’s second best player and his age fits the timeline of our current roster. I understand he will be a free agent this off-season and will be expensive, but I would rather pay him and lock him in for his prime during Murray’s all-star years than draft Williams or Duren and wait another five years for them to develop, by which time Murray will be 30.
That's why I said ancillary scorer.
People are overthinking this: He projects as a non liability in terms of on/off ball offense and defense, at the scarcest position in the league.
If this team ever becomes good again, that's going to make him extremely valuable in the playoffs, while all these limited to non shooters will be played off the floor.
I could be ok with this and i really think there's a good chance he'll be there at 9.
Imo he's in the group after the top 5 ( i think Sharpe is a lock in the top 10) with Davis-Mathurin-Daniels-Sochan-Duren-Griffin...that will make the lottery.
He's going 4-7, book it. Let's hope it's 6-7, where a trade up theoretically becomes more feasible.
Murray is a beast. He sure can be a top scorer in the league as position of need for the Spurs.
He has a great looking shot(smooth) and enough athleticism to go strong to the basket and finish.
He's also NBA ready and would step right in and contribute, no hope he can correct his shot crap like other players desired by many here with the 9th pick.
It's going to take a trade up to get Murray maybe 3 or 4 spots in the draft but it would be a huge success if the Spurs can pull it off.
I think I see LaRavia more as a SF in the mode of pre-injury Gordon Hayward... I think people tend to forget that before his avalanche of injuries, Hayward was a pretty impressive all around player.
Spurs have to at least pick up the phone and call Houston about 3, no? Wonder what it would realistically take.
Murry and 9 if we were lucky.
Not sure if it's a typo, but if you go into the article, it also states that Minott worked out with the Spurs Pre-Combine. That would make two workouts already....
Hmm i wonder if the 20 and 25 picks will turn out to be Marjon and Minott
From a website
A more interesting list came up during a BartTorvik query, though. Since 2016, only four players have had a BLK % over 5.0, a STL % over 3.0, an AST % over 12, and an OREB % over 12. They are as follows:
-Josh Minott
-Fringe NBA Player Gary Clark as a senior at Cincinnati
-Consensus first-round pick LSU sop re Tari Eason
-Former number one overall pick Zion Williamson as a freshman at Duke
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makes sense for the Spurs to be interested. Like i said, every offseason they address their weaknesses. And I said help defense was a big one.
Oddly, the advantage of having so many glaring weaknesses is that there are few wrong ways to approach the draft. Lol. Pretty much any approach that adds talent in any way is basically valid.
Our entire cupboard of picks and swaps, and 2-3 of our former FRPs. No one in this draft is a transformative player to be worth that.
Spurs seem very glacial and methodical, as if each off-season has a purpose.
Vassel and Tre Jones: defense.
Lil Weezy, McBuckets, and Primo: shooting.
This season: Maybe defense again?
I think they're looking at upside from the wing. What separates Barlowe, Minott, Dieng, Eason, Sochan etc. from one another?
What's that intangible Spurs-ian quality they are looking for?
If they think the difference between Sochan (generally considered a top 10 pick) and Minott is slim or actually tilts in favor of the latter; it would make sense to obtain him later in the draft and use #9 somewhere else.
That may be in a trade up scenario or to select combine darling Jalen Williams who's likely not making past late lottery.
Yeah F that.
I’m coming back around to Johnny Davis at 9. Alpha dog, high bbiq, natural bucket getter which the team lacks.
Cooling on Sochan at 9. I feel there are some reasonable facsimiles of him that will be available later in the draft including the other Baylor kid Brown.
I really like Mark Williams but not at 9, which is where we’d need to take him. Some of the other centers (the Arkansas and Arizona ones) seemed to have good combines and could be had at 25.
Deing is the type of swing for the fences pick id like to see at 20.
No. 3 will cost more than 5 or 6 in a trade.
Rather have Murray at 5 or 6 than Banchero.
I’m increasingly of the belief that one of Murray, Sharpe, or Daniels will be available at #9. Whichever one of them falls has to be the pick, in my opinion.
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