Another school shooting?

[DMC]

Lay out your plans for applying sunscreen to the schools.

Lol DMC monologuing

You don't know whether to or go blind. You really are a desperate little man.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure, and you lay out your plans for getting a meaningful gun control bill through congress.

1. Armed security at each school.
2. Locked doors with entry clearance required.
3. Doors must be reinforced and any glass must be bullet proof.
4. Schools must be fenced and gated with clearance needed to enter the non school bus gates.
5. Metal detectors and scanners for backpacks
6. Routine checks by patrols even when schools have onsite armed security
7. Classroom doors can only open from the inside sans key
8. Blocking the door with an object causes the door alarm to sound, similar to airport restricted entry doors.
9. Regular canine patrol to detect any explosive devices

All this can be done at the state level without need to have congress authorize it.

Show your budget for doing this in every school in the country.

[DMC]

I'd like to know exactly what was taught

Wasn't about semen detection in your own home.

[Blake]

You don't know whether to or go blind. You really are a desperate little man.

Still waiting for your budget proposal for the bullet proof windows. I don't have to give you anything else but one liners until then.

[Blake]

Wasn't about semen detection in your own home.

Is this you not ting or not going blind? Totally not a desperation one liner.

[ChumpDumper]

Where's the budget for subterranean playground bunkers?

Armored school buses?

[Blake]

A gun law prevented him from getting an AR-15 until he was 18. Shortly thereafter, he financed one online.

No no that's way harder than just installing bullet proof windows everywhere, metal detectors and canine patrols on every school campus everywhere.

[DMC]

Is this you not ting or not going blind? Totally not a desperation one liner.

Something you can relate to. You wouldn't understand the terminology if these exercises were explained to you. Might as well explain fusion to a 3 year old.

[DMC]

No no that's way harder than just installing bullet proof windows everywhere, metal detectors and canine patrols on every school campus everywhere.

So pass the law. Prove how easy it is. You probably lock your car, lock your house and maybe you even have a security system. Why? Aren't there laws to prevent people from illegally entering your home or your car?

[Blake]

Something you can relate to. You wouldn't understand the terminology if these exercises were explained to you. Might as well explain fusion to a 3 year old.

DMC totally ting now

[ChumpDumper]

So pass the law. Prove how easy it is.

Post your budget. Prove how cheap it will be.

[Blake]

So pass the law. Prove how easy it is.

So put bullet proof glass in all the schools then. Go.

[DMC]

DMC totally ting on me now

fify

[Blake]

Post your budget. Prove how cheap it will be.

He's ting himself now.

[DMC]

So put bullet proof glass in all the schools then. Go.

resistant glass to school plans
By: Tribune Media WirePosted at 7:21 PM, Aug 29, 2019 and last updated 6:21 PM, Aug 29, 2019
PLAINS TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- With school shootings happening more and more frequently, one district in Pennsylvania is adding another measure of security to a new school still under construction.

"We as taxpayers, parents, school districts, school boards, have a very huge responsibility to protect our kids and it is unfortunate, but it is necessary, and we will do what we have to do to make them safe," said Shawn Walker, Vice President of the Wilkes-Barre Area School Board.

A vote at Wilkes-Barre Area's school board meeting approved the measure to add bullet-resistant glass along the Plains Township building's perimeter. Walker said the nearly $450,000 upgrade comes from money already borrowed for the project and is a needed addition.

"Unfortunately, this – school shootings, and active shootings, shooters – (is) something we have to contend with and deal with, and this is a measure we can take to try to make those kids as safe as possible," said Walker.

https://www.wtkr.com/2019/08/29/penn...-school-plans/


Now show me on gun law the left has passed in the past two years.

[DMC]

Welp, they are ed now. Probably shut down.

[monosylab1k]

[DMC]

Trump is a piece of but aren't they all?

[ChumpDumper]

DMC wants $45 billion of socialist windows.

To say nothing of his other security demands.

[Ef-man]

DMC wants $45 billion of socialist windows.

To say nothing of his other security demands.

More social en lement programs, when will it end.

First the public schools, then the private schools security vouchers, then the public universities, etc., etc.

[pgardn]

No, you can freely walk into any airport. You cannot get to the gates and there's a massive presence of LEOs even prior to the security checkpoints. LaGuardia has over 1100 armed security officers.

Yes.

And your example was ON AN AIRPLANE.
You have to get there, yes? To the airplane. Have you heard of TSA.?

You can stop now. Or keep going.
Again a faulty tower of an example.

You clearly think you can pull this bull freely on a constant basis.
Just say you were dead wrong. You can do it.
Im not writing to the rest of the board I am writing to YOU. You know your example was bull .

[ElNono]

Sanity vs ignorance, they are not synonyms. You can draw that conclusion but that doesn't mean I said it. I wouldn't call it insane. I would call it haughty and hubris for the most part, thinking you have the answers to things you probably freely admit you don't understand - guns and existing gun laws. It doesn't mean you don't have a legit gripe but the solutions that are being suggested are just slinging at the wall. This isn't a new issue, surely someone on the left has done some research.

I called them sane, I didn't claim or insinuate you called them insane (talking about putting words in somebody else's mouth).

Sane implies some amount of rationality and/or knowledge going into them. Trying to cajole this solely into a weapons-knowledge problem is misguided as well, this is a multi-pronged problem, and will need a multi-pronged solution.

Health assessments are fine, but what's the end game and how do you get there? Since you don't know who has a gun, how do you know who to mentally assess? This is where existing gun law comes into play. If you knew that a federal firearms registration database is illegal you'd have to refer to state level databases, and most states don't have those. You'd need 50 different versions of the mental health assessment plan and somewhere along the way you'd need a confiscation and reissue program.

Just throwing out "mental health assessment" ignores how you get there.

This is like saying this can't be done because "how do you know who owns a car"? Cars are also sold for cash, and a minority of people drive without a license, registration or insurance. The reason the vast majority does not break the law is because they're not criminals, and have no problem being law abiding citizens. That's how you get there.

Enforcement looks exactly the same: police and if you catch them with a weapon with an expired license, or without proof of insurance, or proof of mental health examination, you confiscate the weapon/fine/jail, etc.

I've seen ample evidence to the contrary. People here on the left don't know the difference between a clip and a magazine. They don't know how long it takes to rerack an AR. They don't understand "evil features" like thumbhole stocks and bayonet lugs, and how firearm manufacturers skirt those silly little non-issues. The left focuses on how the gun looks, they do not focus on how it operates. If they did they'd go for a ban on all semiauto weapons since they are, in effect, all the same. I keep seeing "military grade" and "military style" and indications that people here think ammo is different in the military than in the civilian world. I see "hunting rounds" and "armor piercing" and all this . It's just noise.

Because all those technicalities (which is exactly what they are) are used as a crutch to do nothing. Does it really matter if it's a clip or a magazine if the regulated limit is 10 bullets? That conversation is a distraction and pointless.

Sure, anyone can propose gun regulation. Making it effective is the trick.

How about getting started with some, then see what works and doesn't, and refine it? If you never start, you'll never get there. It's not like you only have one chance to regulate or get it 100% right.

I'd venture a guess that plenty on the right know more about guns than plenty on the left, and when bills are drafted by the left, the right already knows the limpact (my word for not really effective) and where the loopholes exist for gun manufacturers. I mean, unless you think the NRA doesn't understand guns or gun laws.

I'd venture that plenty on the right care more about a NRA endorsement hitting all the pro-gun one-liners than they know or care about actual guns. This boils down to campaign money and cred, nothing else.

Which is why I provide statutes and explain how guns work to those "I've shot at a target as a kid" folks. The left would be wise to have someone on their side who cannot be hoodwinked due to ignorance of facts.

I brought up the fact, and it is a fact, that this is largely a US-specific problem. Maybe it's time we start looking at what other countries are doing right about this, but we probably won't, because it almost invariably involves some form of gun regulation.

The status quo hasn't worked and isn't working. As far as statutes, we had an Assault Rifle ban not that long ago, and passed all cons utional muster back in the day. We can discuss whether it was effective or not, and we certainly gave up on it, but as far as legality goes, that wasn't a problem.

Sounds like the left is powerless to effect real change.

I think they are, especially in this area, where I don't think an executive order would be effective. It's rather puzzling as well, you would think there would be some amount of bi-partisan support to save american lives from these oft-occurring murders.

I guess, some people put an NRA endorsement over the life of children. I frankly find that de able, but everybody is en led to their opinion, decisions and have to live with them.

Sure it's a money problem. Try just walking into a reputable private school in an affluent district with a long gun. See how well that works. Those kids were at war that day. Take care of your own before you start donating to foreign causes. That seems pretty obvious to me.

When like this happens all over the country, including Las Vegas, San Diego, etc, this isn't a social class problem. The government has zero money problems to fund programs.

No, the kids were in an active shooter situation. There were no bombs over their heads (we regulate those, BTW), there were no tanks on the street, there were no mortar s s laying siege to the city, etc. Completely different scenario.

Isn't that what you just used as an excuse, the filibuster? Doesn't that basically mean the left has given up since they cannot seem to find it in them to do away with it?

You have it backwards. "The left" did as much as the law allows them to do, bring up a bill to a vote on the floor. It was "the right" at that very moment that gave up trying to find a solution to this by voting it down.

[pgardn]

They didn't redesign all planes after 9-11, they retrofitted pit doors so a code was required to enter. They ins uted rules of no standing or forming a line in the forward galley. When the pilot needs a piss break, the attendant stands guard in front when the pit door is open each time. In schools, the front doors are often unlocked, there's no load lock area where clearance happens before final entry to the school. There are no metal detectors, no one is standing guard, no canines and no reinforcements. There's nothing but glass and a hallway with a room full of children for a "my turn to go out in a blaze" dip to take advantage of. There's no egress routes that don't include passing through ingress routes. There's no backup plan.

Read again old man and think.

[pgardn]

The rest of the red team stands by while DMC is mowed down.
Sounds familiar to the events in Uvalde.

For the board.

[daboom1]