Quin Snyder is a potential successor to Pop, Marc Stein reports

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For a couple of years, people were slobbering all over Gobert... then they sort of stopped. He didn't get worse - Utah just built around Donovan Mitc . But the one thing I can say for sure is that IF they decided to get rid of Gobert, they don't give assets, they get them.

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Dunno about that, I think the Jazz are in a hard place. Gobert's contract is so big that it's hard to set up a legal trade for. Add that he's seen as a flawed and overpayed player, due to the playoff failures that the Jazz have suffered. Finally, there are all these rumors about "him or me" ultimatums; teams offer less for guys who are forcing their way out. I don't think they are going to see value if they trade either or both of Gobert and Mitc , yet it appears that something will have to give... Would not want to be managing the Jazz this summer.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I hate to continue the Gobert discussion, since this is a thread about Snyder. But did any of you really pay attention to Gobert's numbers this year.

He's only good from 10' in (really more like 6'), but he shot .713 on them! ORtg of 137, and DRtg of 103? Led the league with 14.7 RB per game and had 2.1 blocks and 6.7 FTA per game?

For a couple of years, people were slobbering all over Gobert... then they sort of stopped. He didn't get worse - Utah just built around Donovan Mitc . But the one thing I can say for sure is that IF they decided to get rid of Gobert, they don't give assets, they get them.

Have a second look at Gobert's ORtg (137) and DRtg (103). Consider that Mitc is on the same team, and had an ORtg of 114, and a DRtg of 111 this year. No stat is perfect, especially in a vacuum, but you can't ignore a disparity that large between two starters on the same team.

Gobert is good, there is no doubt about that but Utah's problems begin when teams go small on them and force him to defend on the perimeter instead of protecting the paint. This exposes everyone else's bad individual defense as well, because he's supposed to cover for them but he can't if he has to guard someone in the corner. Moreover, offensively he doesn't have enough skill to score consistently on the smaller players. His only advantage is offensive rebounding but this isn't enough. All of this results in playoff losses for them because they don't have the answer for it.

[KingKev]

He’s not bad, and why shouldn’t he get offers when awful re-treads like Mark Jackson and Doc Rivers consistently do?

It’s not his fault that the top two players on his roster don’t get along. Not the first time that’s ever happened. Dallas went through a prototype version of The Process in the 90s, and wound up with 3 consecutive top 4 picks, and drafted Jim Jackson, Jamal Mashburn, and Jason Kidd, and NONE of them could get along. No one blamed the coach, and eventually all of them would be shipped out.

Haha Toni Braxton was pretty damn hot.

[SAGirl]

I hate to continue the Gobert discussion, since this is a thread about Snyder. But did any of you really pay attention to Gobert's numbers this year.

He's only good from 10' in (really more like 6'), but he shot .713 on them! ORtg of 137, and DRtg of 103? Led the league with 14.7 RB per game and had 2.1 blocks and 6.7 FTA per game?

For a couple of years, people were slobbering all over Gobert... then they sort of stopped. He didn't get worse - Utah just built around Donovan Mitc . But the one thing I can say for sure is that IF they decided to get rid of Gobert, they don't give assets, they get them.

Have a second look at Gobert's ORtg (137) and DRtg (103). Consider that Mitc is on the same team, and had an ORtg of 114, and a DRtg of 111 this year. No stat is perfect, especially in a vacuum, but you can't ignore a disparity that large between two starters on the same team.

I used to like him but I realized that he’s very limited offensively for someone who is getting paid superstar money, but the kicker for me was him being publicly ignorant and starting the COVID NBA lockdown, not just spreading his germs on purpose as a sort of statement, but hanging out with everyone having symptoms. This was b4 the vaccine mind you and NBA players have had family member die from the disease. I over his callous behavior. I don’t care for him tbh. Pass.

[XDT76]

I used to like him but I realized that he’s very limited offensively for someone who is getting paid superstar money,

This is a reason why I don't agree with some posters here crying to throw MAX money to players who are good on only 1 side of the game.
Pay them good money, sure but MAX money, no.

[mo7888]

ESPN reporting with @ESPN_MacMahon: After weeks of conversations with ownership and management, Utah Jazz coach Quin Snyder’s future remains unclear and a possibility exists that he could decide to end his eight-year tenure with franchise: https://t.co/MFfns6fVqj

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[Degoat]

I’ve got a feeling Pop is retiring, just waiting to announce after the season has officially ended. When have the spurs ever made as many mid season trades as they did this past season? I think they knew pop was gonna retire and was preparing for life after him with acquiring the draft picks.

[exstatic]

I’ve got a feeling Pop is retiring, just waiting to announce after the season has officially ended. When have the spurs ever made as many mid season trades as they did this past season? I think they knew pop was gonna retire and was preparing for life after him with acquiring the draft picks.

This season was a major course change, getting rid of DDR, LMA, Rudy, and Patty. If there was a clear exit ramp for Pop, it was a year ago. He might leave, which you can say pretty much any offseason, but I see no clear signs that he’s GOING to leave.

[KingKev]

I’ve got a feeling Pop is retiring, just waiting to announce after the season has officially ended. When have the spurs ever made as many mid season trades as they did this past season? I think they knew pop was gonna retire and was preparing for life after him with acquiring the draft picks.

I’d firmly disagree and if they have a semi successfully offseason with reasons to be optimistic for next season I’m confident he is back for what will probably be his swan song. Keep in mind he has 12 million reasons to coach next year. He’d be crazy to fake that off the table.

[Ocotillo]

I don't think Pop is checking out this offseason. I can see him just announcing out of the blue in an offseason though to avoid the fanfare and hub bub. If Snyder were to leave Utah and came here as lead assistant, then speculation will start he is the successor.

[KingKev]

I don't think Pop is checking out this offseason. I can see him just announcing out of the blue in an offseason though to avoid the fanfare and hub bub. If Snyder were to leave Utah and came here as lead assistant, then speculation will start he is the successor.

Why would one of the most sought after coaches in the league leave his role to be a lead assistant? Oh right for the opportunity to work under and learn from the great Greg Popovich? The opportunity to eventually be the head coach of the legendary San Antonio Spurs? C’mon man. Maybe for crazy money.

[The Truth #6]

Pop would be hanging out in Europe with Zarko even if he was retired I imagine, so why not have the Holts pay for it? I honestly think he in part wants to keep coaching so he can continue to have his post game dinners and drink wine all across the country and all that. He just needs capable assistants around him to lighten his workload, and that's the part I'm not sure of, but honestly have no idea about the capabilities of the staff around him at this point. From the outside, they look sub-par, but who knows.

[mo7888]

If he leaves Utah I expect him to sit out the year and have lots of options after next season...we may be one of those options..

[KingKev]

Pop would be hanging out in Europe with Zarko even if he was retired I imagine, so why not have the Holts pay for it? I honestly think he in part wants to keep coaching so he can continue to have his post game dinners and drink wine all across the country and all that. He just needs capable assistants around him to lighten his workload, and that's the part I'm not sure of, but honestly have no idea about the capabilities of the staff around him at this point. From the outside, they look sub-par, but who knows.

His 12mm/yr salary is also eating into the coaching budget. I’m certain he is back next year and hopeful there is a succession plan(s) behind closed doors.

Pure speculation but I could also see Pop doing another 2-4yrs if we put together a roster with real upside or if his presence is enough to attract top talent. For instance Lavine wanted to cone here and knowing Pop would be coaching nwxt few years is a consideration of Lavine.

[MultiTroll]

Ya the Jazz have looked soo good.

[MultiTroll]

Pure speculation but I could also see Pop doing another 2-4yrs if we put together a roster with real upside or if his presence is enough to attract top talent. For instance Lavine wanted to cone here and knowing Pop would be coaching nwxt few years is a consideration of Lavine.

We saw this movie before with Softridge.

Pass.

[exstatic]

Pop would be hanging out in Europe with Zarko even if he was retired I imagine, so why not have the Holts pay for it? I honestly think he in part wants to keep coaching so he can continue to have his post game dinners and drink wine all across the country and all that. He just needs capable assistants around him to lighten his workload, and that's the part I'm not sure of, but honestly have no idea about the capabilities of the staff around him at this point. From the outside, they look sub-par, but who knows.

I don’t disagree with any of this. He gets to coach and mentor young players, travel, and eat at any restaurant he wants, staying at the finest hotels. His wife is gone. Why would he give this up?

[Ocotillo]

Why would one of the most sought after coaches in the league leave his role to be a lead assistant? Oh right for the opportunity to work under and learn from the great Greg Popovich? The opportunity to eventually be the head coach of the legendary San Antonio Spurs? C’mon man. Maybe for crazy money.

As the lead to be the successor. Sure he may go right to another head coaching job but maybe he gets some serious coin thrown at him to come in and be #2 this coming season to take over post-Pop.

[The Truth #6]

His 12mm/yr salary is also eating into the coaching budget. I’m certain he is back next year and hopeful there is a succession plan(s) behind closed doors.

Pure speculation but I could also see Pop doing another 2-4yrs if we put together a roster with real upside or if his presence is enough to attract top talent. For instance Lavine wanted to cone here and knowing Pop would be coaching nwxt few years is a consideration of Lavine.

That's a good point and could logically explain why our assistant coaches look so green. If so, it would be hard for them to pony up for a high dollar assistant. Would have happened already. Knowing the Spurs, they are working behind the scenes. But then again, maybe not, not pressuring Pop to make a decision and let him do whatever he wants for as long as he wants to do it, avoiding the uncomfortable future of having to find his replacement because there are no great replacements.

[KingKev]

That's a good point and could logically explain why our assistant coaches look so green. If so, it would be hard for them to pony up for a high dollar assistant. Would have happened already. Knowing the Spurs, they are working behind the scenes. But then again, maybe not, not pressuring Pop to make a decision and let him do whatever he wants for as long as he wants to do it, avoiding the uncomfortable future of having to find his replacement because there are no great replacements.

I think they are more likely to hand over the keys to someone who is hungry and looking to prove themselves versus paying upfront for a big name.

I’m sure behind closed doors there are stakeholders who are getting or will eventually get uncomfortable as we continue to lose especially with the changing investor base. Sooner or later tough talks need to come.

Pop did a great job last year and he still makes sense for the short term but it’s time to usher in a new era. It might even be advantageous for the next coach to fail miserably so we can finally get a few years of good picks.

[Larry O]

If he leaves Utah I expect him to sit out the year and have lots of options after next season...we may be one of those options..

Hmmm... It's interesting as to what Real GM had to say about Snyder as he is now recovering due to his recent hip surgery, as well as his future prospect, but here's the whole article:

Quin Snyder's future with the Utah Jazz remains unclear and the "possibility exists" that he leaves the team this summer after eight years, sources told Adrian Wojnarowski and Tim MacMahon of ESPN.
The Jazz have offered to extend Snyder's contract, which has two years remaining. The two sides are having discussion on "good faith," though Snyder has yet to commit to next season.
The conversations have reportedly centered around philosophical issues of how the team can take the next step in the Western Conference.
Snyder has expressed no interest in other openings this offseason. He is currently recovering from hip surgery following the team's loss to the Mavs in the playoffs.

There is no timetable for a resolution with talks expected to continue, added ESPN.

If Snyder's contract doesn't get renewed, take a year off & R&R, & if Pop does decide to retire after next season, then if Snyder is interested in the position, then, it would be like a perfect storm for him, if the Spurs are mutual.

[The Truth #6]

^Makes sense. No way a coach just walks away from such a highly desired coaching situation (the NBA) without some idea of the next step.

[JPB]

I’d firmly disagree and if they have a semi successfully offseason with reasons to be optimistic for next season I’m confident he is back for what will probably be his swan song. Keep in mind he has 12 million reasons to coach next year. He’d be crazy to fake that off the table.

The guy is 70+ and already multimillionaire, I really don't think money is the motivation to keep coaching.

[JPB]

As the lead to be the successor. Sure he may go right to another head coaching job but maybe he gets some serious coin thrown at him to come in and be #2 this coming season to take over post-Pop.

Nah, you don't get back to assistant when you were the top dog for 8 years. And spurs wouldn't even propose him.

[KingKev]

The guy is 70+ and already multimillionaire, I really don't think money is the motivation to keep coaching.

Dude 1 yr 12mm. Probably 1/5th his career earnings in a year. No way it isn’t a major consideration.