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who knows how much he would have gotten on the Spurs plus we would not have had to resign him. We could have just let him walk or do a sign and trade not in duress. Plus we would not have had to pay carrol buyout. or signed and payed trey lyles.
Definitely. Derrick and Jakob were two of their three-best players going into last season. Richardson will hopefully not crack the top five this season. If they trade Poeltl, they should be doing so because they got a good offer, not because they believe they can upgrade in free agency easily.
who knows how much he would have gotten on the Spurs plus we would not have had to resign him. We could have just let him walk or do a sign and trade not in duress. Plus we would not have had to pay carrol buyout. or signed and payed trey lyles.
Assuming Carroll was going to bust, they would have saved money by using the MLE. They had to get him to sign a three-year deal to make an S&T legal, and they gave him a bit more money to get him to commit to the extra season. Heck, his contract might have been more moveable had it been one more year on it than two. It's definitely not a clean-cut what if.
I prefer them having had Lyles and now be done with it over having Bertans. He's another guy who's basically had the same impact that Davis had over the past few years.
I don't think Richardson is better than White in a vac but for the Spurs I don't think its as cut and dry. The other comparison is just laughable though.
I’m loving this new Spurstalk narrative that the Spurs had such a major impact on the Celtics success LOL.
I just hope for the sake of this thread that we don't end up using no. 25 on Caleb Houstan... if Boston wins and he's our pick at 25, this is going down in flames... Lord have mercy on our souls...
I don't think anyone here has said "major." Upgrading your 6th/7th man is a subtle & nuanced tweak.
Lots of chatter about Spurs winning culture and how White, Udoka and Hardy…
And? They had a ton of high picks from the KG/Pierce trade, decent coaching under Stevens, and this is still their first Finals since 2010. They lost 3 ECFs, win it this year, and you don’t think Udoka had anything to do with that? They were a selfish squad, which is why they lost deep in the playoffs. He got them to share the ball. It was a struggle early in the year, but they got through it.
i've never heard anyone imply that the spurs had a "major impact"; i guess one can infer that but that'd be a bit of a strawman.
Udoka is a solid coach and White has contributed to their run. I just find it funny many in the board patting the Spurs in the back for another teams accomplishments.
The board is not doing that. What I think some posters are doing is pointing out how many posters are consistently wrong about White. White's a really good player, and Boston should have never been disappointed in what they got from him. Now that the one thing he wasn't doing at a high level recovered a bit, it's very obvious. He's really helped them, and it was a good trade for them. Acknowledging that would be like Hornets fans acknowledging that them waiving Boris Diaw helped the Spurs to a championship. Boris was a really helpful player for the Spurs. Was he the star? No. Was he one of the stars? No. Could they have won without him? Possibly. Did they have an easier time because they had him? Undoubtedly.
Thinking that White's peak was Game Three of the ECF was already wrong when the thought occurred, but if one holds that view, then it's not hard to believe they'd think people talking about how good White is are overhyping him and thus the trade. White had played better before and has played better since, but views on him weren't created in just one post-season, and criticism of him isn't always unfounded. But if White's the Celtics version of 2012-2014 Boris Diaw, then the trade absolutely played a part in the team's assent. To acknowledge that on a board that still can't let go of the Leonard trade or even the ing Scola trade is just inevitable. Sters are going to pick apart every carcass that is part of the team's history.
spur fan is vicariously living through white atm
White is going to be left open from 3 all series long that is for sure.
white can hit the game winning 3 pointer in overtime of game 7 of the nba finals and i would still be very pleased with the trade
white is more useful to the celtics in a 6th man role than he was to the spurs. getting a first and another player in richardson who can either produce or himself be flipped for a first is a big win for a team still in the rebuilding phase of things
Mark Jackson “There goes that man!”
I’m ready for Jackson to retire…
So happy for Derrick. I hope they pull this win off.
Breaks my heart to see Derrick killing it for another team. He was our guy.
I’ll eat my crow White showing up in both ends of the floor in the highest stage. I said earlier they were going to dare him to shoot the 3, everyone knew it and he responded.
White will lead the Celtics to a championship, and some people on SpursTalk will still say that Boston overpaid for him
DWhite
My man DWhite, happy for that huge dome tbh.
Nah man I'm happy as for him tonight. Glad to see him on a contender.
Love to see him get three more wins this series so he can hold Larry, especially with how much of an assassin he was tonight.
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