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    Whether we want to acknowledge it or not, the Spurs want to win now. Trading a player who fits for some random late first round pick isn't going to do the trick.
    If they were all in on win now, they would have made different trades last summer instead of ones where they ate like $15-16M in dead salary. They were all in on play the young guys and accrue assets. They just won’t overtly dump games by deactivating most of their rotation like Portland. That’s not the same as win now.

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    Whether we want to acknowledge it or not, the Spurs want to win now. Trading a player who fits for some random late first round pick isn't going to do the trick.
    They are sending mixed signals as evidenced by the signing of McDougal but I don’t think they are full blown win now. You don’t reach for Primo or let DDR walk if you are still full blown win now and guys like JRich and Jak can be had.

    There is an organic rebuild/building phase that many of us may not fully support but ug’s nit

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    Well, by that reasoning then go ahead and trade Keldon Johnson, Vassell and the picks for a couple of years rental of a veteran frontcourt player. I'm sure it can be done. That way you maximize your chances of making the playoffs the next 2 or 3 years just so you get stomped on by the 1st seed as they go on to fight for a championship. Oh, and while you're at it, make sure you overpay Lonnie Walker now, and Poeltl and Richardson next season so that you keep it going, while you kiss your salary cap room goodbye. Nice plan indeed.
    this is actually what the team should consider doing since their first round picks can replace the role players if we get a decent big. Alas there aren't many trades to justify the big trade, so you just have to assume the team is doing their due diligence. But its not apples or oranges, it's who we get back compared to who we ship out. now if we trade all our young talent and all future picks we would be in rotten situation like the lakers. But we can afford to be very very flexible.

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    Nice little video of Josh and Primo chillin. Seems like a really cool dude and a good mentor, i hope he sticks around. Primo must have lived a pretty sheltered life because he is still learning how to drive at 19 and wasn't allowed to play football.


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    Nice little video of Josh and Primo chillin. Seems like a really cool dude and a good mentor, i hope he sticks around. Primo must have lived a pretty sheltered life because he is still learning how to drive at 19 and wasn't allowed to play football.

    I enjoy video like these. Are there more?

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    Nice little video of Josh and Primo chillin. Seems like a really cool dude and a good mentor, i hope he sticks around. Primo must have lived a pretty sheltered life because he is still learning how to drive at 19 and wasn't allowed to play football.

    Football is a stupid risk to take if you’re on a pro track in basketball.

    People who live in other countries and their cities don’t necessarily drive. Not everyone destroyed their public transit systems to sell cars.

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    I enjoy video like these. Are there more?
    Yeah, I wouldn't mind knowing either if any more videos like this were done with the players.

    Cool video. I wouldn't mind seeing J-Rich stick around next season. He really helped elevate the team. If we have to trade him to open up salary and a spot, though, fair enough, but I really did like the guy and his play with the Spurs.

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    Is he a free agent or still under contract?

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    Is he a free agent or still under contract?
    He’s got a year left, but I doubt we can pay him AND our youngsters, so he’ll be moved some time between the draft and next February’s deadline. He even pretty much acknowledged the reality during his question time after the play in loss. We can monetize him while he’s under contract, not after.

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    Wearing the revamped T-Macs...

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    Wearing the revamped T-Macs...
    Do you think he gets us pick 15?

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    He definitely will get us a first round pick

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    He definitely will get us a first round pick
    Sometimes a FRP is worse value, and would be in Josh's case, unless its a top 7 or 8 pick, tbh. I hope we just stick with him at least for one more year.

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    Do you think he gets us pick 15?
    Yeah, easily if packaged with pick 9. Ah, Hang on…

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    He definitely will get us a first round pick
    He’s catnip for contenders. He Ds up, shoots the 3, and can create a little. It won’t be a great first rounder, but we’ll probably get one.

    Contenders tend to draft more ready players, but even those older picks need a year or two to get their feet wet, and most contenders don’t want that lag, and would happily flip a back half FRP for a guy like JRich.

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    Question as far as far as value would our 25th pick+ Richardson for Cleveland’s 14th pick be a fair deal? Or do you think we would have to be our 20th pick + Richardson? Either way Cleveland surprised a lot of people last season a player like Richardson could really help them out.

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    Question as far as far as value would our 25th pick+ Richardson for Cleveland’s 14th pick be a fair deal? Or do you think we would have to be our 20th pick + Richardson? Either way Cleveland surprised a lot of people last season a player like Richardson could really help them out.
    They may not be enough of a contender. Let’s see how they do this year when they’re NOT a surprise.

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    He is one of my favorite Spurs on the current roster and I really don't want to see him go from the team, but I do understand why he might be traded. It kinds sux though because from everything I'm hearing is that he is a great lockeroom leader for the youngsters.

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    I don't think Richardson would have much value in the draft. MAYBE Philly would take him back with 38 for 23 and Green. That way, Pop can finally cut Danny Green and live out the fantasy he's had since Danny's solidified himself. But having four firsts would be bonkers. Of course, the Spurs might do something like trade 20 and 25 for 14 and then do the Philly trade. That'd give them 9, 14 and 23. -- Murray, Williams and Washington

    Would prefer to go into free agency without en bering more cap space, though.

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