Johnny Davis - 2022 NBA Draft Prospect

[John B]

Please cease and desist with this bull . Kobe is the guy who quit on his team in a game 7 in the playoffs. Who forced the break up of le winning combo. Who repeatedly tried to force trades to a "better" situation... Mamba mentality my ass.

Let’s just agree on the “Manu” mentality then. Since Davis has been compared to Manu, giving 100% both sides of the floor every single night. That compe iveness is infectious to other teammates, and what it normally takes a team to the next level. Again if there’s a chance to get an Eason in the 13-15 range, then I would get a go-to scorer like Davis at 9, a point-of-attack defensive that Spurs need imo.

[CGD]

Let’s just agree on the “Manu” mentality then. Since Davis has been compared to Manu, giving 100% both sides of the floor every single night. That compe iveness is infectious to other teammates, and what it normally takes a team to the next level. Again if there’s a chance to get an Eason in the 13-15 range, then I would get a go-to scorer like Davis at 9, a point-of-attack defensive that Spurs need imo.

I love this guy, i really do precisely because of what he has between the ears.

If the Spurs see the next iteration of the team built around Primo and Vassell (i think they do), then this guy would be the perfect compliment over the next 2-3 time horizon. Primo (aka D. White reloaded) assumes facilitator functions, Vassell tops out at Bridges lite on the wing, and Jonny becomes the bucket getter. That also stands to be a good defensive team.

[Ariel]

If the Spurs see the next iteration of the team built around Primo and Vassell (i think they do), then this guy would be the perfect compliment over the next 2-3 time horizon. Primo (aka D. White reloaded) assumes facilitator functions, Vassell tops out at Bridges lite on the wing, and Jonny becomes the bucket getter.

I like Johnny, but if your whole vision for the future is predicated on a role player (Vassell) and 2 unknowns with no factual indication they'll be much more than that, you're taking a HUGE leap of faith... you can aim at the top and land in the middle, but if you aim at the middle from the start, you already screwed up.

[John B]

It would be hard for Pop not to love this kid. His elite on-man defense, 50/50 and passing lane. The guy patterned his mid-range on Demar . I think his assist/TO ratio will be better with NBA players to pass to, the luxury of having another facilitator with Murray, and a willing go-to scorer. The defensive backcourt of Murray/Davis will be insane. I like Sochan, but knowing the Spurs could potentially get Davis and Eason if they play it right is crazy.

[Degoat]

This guy is going to be so good! I really hope the spurs grab him with the 9th pick if he’s available.

[Mr. Body]

It would be hard for Pop not to love this kid. His elite on-man defense, 50/50 and passing lane. The guy patterned his mid-range on Demar . I think his assist/TO ratio will be better with NBA players to pass to, the luxury of having another facilitator with Murray, and a willing go-to scorer. The defensive backcourt of Murray/Davis will be insane. I like Sochan, but knowing the Spurs could potentially get Davis and Eason if they play it right is crazy.

Davis is my guy at this point. He talks basketball at a high level and he's defense first. The guy he's talking to is going to Portland's FO -- I wonder if he's going to push him to pair next to Lillard.

Taking Davis, clearly the Spurs continue to have PF issues. Hopefully they can solve them somehow later in the draft or elsewhere.

[duncan2150]

I really like him too, he's THE guard if we take one imo.

More than that, i think he's the only player who combines good defense and offense at the 9 spot.

Imo selecting Davis means Keldon would play PF, wich is not ideal like Mr.body said but spurs can solve that by taking a real PF with the picks or FA.

[Degoat]

Spurs are okay drafting a guard at 9 I think, they can find a 4 later in the draft. Fingers crossed Eason, Liddell, or Dieng falls to 20 and if not Jovic, KBrown, Jake Laravia, and Baldwin would for be available Imo

[John B]

His defense on Ivey could really be the key on Spurs “weakness” against explosive guards, which has been Spurs achilles heel also. Davis is really good at matching physicality and positioning himself on a sprinting Ivey on that example. And this modern guard dominated NBA, a really good defense on the point-of-attack is crucial imo

[RC_Drunkford]

I like Davis next to Murray tbh, especially if he becomes a knock down 3-point shooter. He can check PGs with Avery Bradley type defense, so the defensive fit would be great. I can also see him getting a lot of offball action to get open, which is why I compared him to Klay. The only issue then is that Keldon would probably be the odd man out in the future, since we need a PF and I'd rather play Vassell at SF. But that'll still take some years

[duncan2150]

[John B]

And Spurs don’t really have someone who draws double/triple team and passing to an open man.

[TD 21]

getting Klay Thompson vibes from him. Seems like a good fit next to DJ, if we didn't have 13 shooting guards on the roster already. Hard pass for me

One of the worst comps ever.

"We" have 4 SG options: Vassell, more of a wing; Richardson, not long for them; Primo, a project; Langford, not long for them.

The notion of one of the least talented teams in the league passing up perceived best player available because of that motley crew is absurd.

There's a clear need for someone not named Murray who can create for themselves and others.

[Ariel]

Spurs are okay drafting a guard at 9 I think, they can find a 4 later in the draft. Fingers crossed Eason, Liddell, or Dieng falls to 20 and if not Jovic, KBrown, Jake Laravia, and Baldwin would for be available Imo

That's a hugely disparate bunch... Dieng, Jovic and Baldwin are projects years away, Kendall Brown is a 3 who can't shoot, Liddell is an undersized 4/5. I'm not saying I don't like them, because I do, but none of them are credible short term solutions to our woes. Sochan, Eason and Laravia could be.

[RC_Drunkford]

One of the worst comps ever.

"We" have 4 SG options: Vassell, more of a wing; Richardson, not long for them; Primo, a project; Langford, not long for them.

The notion of one of the least talented teams in the league passing up perceived best player available because of that motley crew is absurd.

There's a clear need for someone not named Murray who can create for themselves and others.

you clearly didn‘t read my last post. Nice try

[duncan2150]

[John B]

He has drawn comparison to none other than Manu Gi-no-bi-li. I really like this guy, IF only Spurs can secure an Eason at 13-15 to address Spurs immediate needs. Because a defense of Murray, Davis, Vassell, Eason would be insane. Now to find the best complimentary center at 20 or 25 or even from FA.

[BatManu20]

Starting to feel like Davis is taking Griffin’s spot in the top-8.

[CGD]

Starting to feel like Davis is taking Griffin’s spot in the top-8.

Hasnt he been out of the Top 8 for some time?

[rjv]

Hasnt he been out of the Top 8 for some time?

yeah, griffin's luster fell of a while back (as far as mocks go).

[Mr. Body]

I'm seeing Griffin still in the top 12 in many mocks, even top 10. But the spread is widening with other mocks starting to drop him out of the lottery. Hard to tell. My gut says the first group is being slow to recognize what's happening.

[duncan2150]

I think so

Impossible to know the order after that top 3-4. Imo if Griffin is in shape in those workouts he'll go top 10. depends also on the medicals.

[Mr. Body]

I think so

Impossible to know the order after that top 3-4. Imo if Griffin is in shape in those workouts he'll go top 10. depends also on the medicals.

I don't think his shape has to do with it. It's that people are realizing what an atrocious defender he is.

[duncan2150]

I don't think his shape has to do with it. It's that people are realizing what an atrocious defender he is.

for me, the bad shape is the reason why he was bad on D.

[drpill]

I do wonder with Griffin how much of his struggles have to do with the knee injury, and how much he might improve (if at all) given time to fully recover. All of his downsides look like they could be attributable to having less confidence in his knees (lateral movement, lack of explosiveness, etc). He has a weird looking stance when he shoots threes as well, but obviously he was highly effective there. I think he will fall, and barring further injuries (which are certainly a possibility), some team might get a steal. Obviously a high risk/reward guy that I wouldn't want at 9 since there are less risky options on the board that also have a good amount of upside.

On topic, this thread has been selling me on Davis... If Mathurin and Daniels are gone I wouldn't be disappointed at all with him as a Spur. Another guard is not ideal but he seems like a very solid long-term piece with a high floor.