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    Excuses and deflecting right away.

    Of course I am on board with a total ban. If you want the results of other nations you need to use the same recipe. These soft shoe "keep muh job" chicken s who are afraid to do what needs to be done need to go. Stop voting for people who are afraid to go against the opposition on anything that matters. You can bet the GOP isn't afraid.

    "But, Australia".. they banned guns and confiscated them (some voluntarily). They didn't say "well you can kill 10 rapidly but you need to take about 4 seconds to rerack the 2nd magazine.. there we did something".

    Don't be pussies, either admit you keep voting for ineffective leaders or you also don't want real change. I said years ago what needs to happen.

    Clock still ticking to the next shooting. Get after it.

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    tbh This is one of the more impressive “desperately fishing for bites” combined with “excuse me while I suck my own pecker” threads in the history of this forum

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    Now, call this, mother er...



    That GD plane was on the tarmac, the ropes were brought down and erected. Then? Well then all the laughter died in sorrow.

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    Republicans being for raising the age to 21 is wishful thinking. You are gonna get pushback from the “so they can join the military, but can’t own a gun” crowd tbh.
    They can join the military but can't drink a beer?

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    Of course I am on board with a total ban.
    You've spent hours and dozens of posts in other threads arguing against the merits of various gun control ideas and now you want people to believe you're actually a 2A abolitionist.

    And you want people to argue with you in good faith on the idea that Republicans will align with Democrats on an outright gun ban despite opposing every previous effort related to gun control.

    This is why no one is taking this seriously. You're full of and it's not worth the time.

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    I'd be willing to do a government buy back on all my AR15s if I was offered $10,000 per rifle. I have other semi-auto rifles chambered in .223 that use the same magazines and have the same rate of fire but they don't look scary so I'm fine just using those and getting a check from the government for $100,000+. If the government won't offer $10,000 per AR15 individual democrats should start a giant go fund me that pays out $10,000 per AR15 turned in. Time to step up and get the scary looking guns off the street.

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    I'd be willing to do a government buy back on all my AR15s if I was offered $10,000 per rifle. I have other semi-auto rifles chambered in .223 that use the same magazines and have the same rate of fire but they don't look scary so I'm fine just using those and getting a check from the government for $100,000+. If the government won't offer $10,000 per AR15 individual democrats should start a giant go fund me that pays out $10,000 per AR15 turned in. Time to step up and get the scary looking guns off the street.
    Nah. Just ban the manufacture and sale of new ones, the secondary market price will skyrocket and you can make that money from collectors without adding $50B to government spending.

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    I'd be willing to do a government buy back on all my AR15s if I was offered $10,000 per rifle. I have other semi-auto rifles chambered in .223 that use the same magazines and have the same rate of fire but they don't look scary so I'm fine just using those and getting a check from the government for $100,000+. If the government won't offer $10,000 per AR15 individual democrats should start a giant go fund me that pays out $10,000 per AR15 turned in. Time to step up and get the scary looking guns off the street.
    srs q wat the diff b/w mag n clip?

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    They can join the military but can't drink a beer?
    + we'll give you a deadly weapon to kill others but only at our behest...the beer? You'll get it with the age old wink & nod like in the movies.

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    I'd be willing to do a government buy back on all my AR15s if I was offered $10,000 per rifle. I have other semi-auto rifles chambered in .223 that use the same magazines and have the same rate of fire but they don't look scary so I'm fine just using those and getting a check from the government for $100,000+. If the government won't offer $10,000 per AR15 individual democrats should start a giant go fund me that pays out $10,000 per AR15 turned in. Time to step up and get the scary looking guns off the street.
    You're dreamin'. If it got down to that, it'd be pennies on the dollar, and that would be grievously grudged on the spot and in the run up.

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    Nah. Just ban the manufacture and sale of new ones, the secondary market price will skyrocket and you can make that money from collectors without adding $50B to government spending.
    That still leaves 20 million or so AR15s in circulation. I thought you wanted to remove these guns from the streets? We are spending 50B on a war in another country why are you so reluctant to spend it here to curb school shootings?

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    You've spent hours and dozens of posts in other threads arguing against the merits of various gun control ideas and now you want people to believe you're actually a 2A abolitionist.

    And you want people to argue with you in good faith on the idea that Republicans will align with Democrats on an outright gun ban despite opposing every previous effort related to gun control.

    This is why no one is taking this seriously. You're full of and it's not worth the time.
    The problem isn’t the 2A, the problem is er when it comes to an outright ban, not that anyone other than the disingenuous op is actually proposing an outright ban.

    An outright ban isn’t necessary imo. Just ban the semi-autos. All semi-autos long, short.

    Queue the gun/2A cultists.

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    That still leaves 20 million or so AR15s in circulation. I thought you wanted to remove these guns from the streets? We are spending 50B on a war in another country why are you so reluctant to spend it here to curb school shootings?
    ...you'd have to end up going door-to-door to get the 20 million AR15's. Nobody wants to get shot, except in the movies.

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    That still leaves 20 million or so AR15s in circulation. I thought you wanted to remove these guns from the streets? We are spending 50B on a war in another country why are you so reluctant to spend it here to curb school shootings?
    I've never said we need to remove them from the streets. I want to make them harder to get. Cutting off supply drives up the price and limits access. Collector's items are much less likely to be used in a random school shooting.

    I'll still make fun of the collectors though. Ten AR-15s.

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    I've never said we need to remove them from the streets. I want to make them harder to get. Cutting off supply drives up the price and limits access. Collector's items are much less likely to be used in a random school shooting.

    I'll still make fun of the collectors though. Ten AR-15s.
    what if you are fighting tyranny and the first 9 jam?

    checkmate, liberal

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    $10000 buyback is way too much for a new AR-15 costing $1,500

    Any buyback must preceded by a complete ban so the buyback money can't be used to buy a new AR-15

    All by back AR-15s are to be destroyed

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    I've never said we need to remove them from the streets. I want to make them harder to get. Cutting off supply drives up the price and limits access. Collector's items are much less likely to be used in a random school shooting.

    I'll still make fun of the collectors though. Ten AR-15s.
    Let's say all production on AR15s was stopped today. There are 20 million still in circulation.

    How many years do you think it will take before AR15s are not used as often in school shootings?

    At what price point will school shooters stop trying to obtain them?

    How long after production is halted to get to the price point where school shooters feel they are too expensive?

    Do you believe there would be a dramatic drop in school shootings if there were no more AR15s to buy?

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    Let's say all production on AR15s was stopped today. There are 20 million still in circulation.

    How many years do you think it will take before AR15s are not used as often in school shootings?

    At what price point will school shooters stop trying to obtain them?

    How long after production is halted to get to the price point where school shooters feel they are too expensive?

    Do you believe there would be a dramatic drop in school shootings if there were no more AR15s to buy?
    I'm still shocked that everyone of these shootings is with an AR-15. My guess is that if you combine all the other types of semi-auto "military" weapons, there's almost as many of them as ARs. Even with the non military style semis, you can buy a 30 round magazine.

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    That still leaves 20 million or so AR15s in circulation. I thought you wanted to remove these guns from the streets? We are spending 50B on a war in another country why are you so reluctant to spend it here to curb school shootings?
    It's not an all or nothing proposition. Why do you guys keep insisting that it is?

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    Let's say all production on AR15s was stopped today. There are 20 million still in circulation.

    How many years do you think it will take before AR15s are not used as often in school shootings?

    At what price point will school shooters stop trying to obtain them?

    How long after production is halted to get to the price point where school shooters feel they are too expensive?

    Do you believe there would be a dramatic drop in school shootings if there were no more AR15s to buy?
    Since it's not a problem in your timeline, who cares, right?

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    Tsa diving right into all the alt right gun nut talking points without skipping a beat

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    I don’t disagree with you. I’m just saying what I think the Republican pushback will be. We saw it in the other thread with people like CC who basically just threw up his hands and said nothing could be done and that these things aren’t realistic.
    You might get red flag stuff, maybe more intense background checks, but you are never going to get a complete ban because there are 90 million law abiding gun owners that vote.

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    You might get red flag stuff, maybe more intense background checks, but you are never going to get a complete ban because there are 90 million law abiding gun owners that vote.
    Ef and I weren’t discussing an outright ban(although I am for that personally, yes I know it will never happen in the US). We were discussing increasing the age to buy to 21…I was stating Republicans like you would be against it…and gave your talking points. Tell me if I’m wrong though

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    It's not an all or nothing proposition. Why do you guys keep insisting that it is?
    What part is all or nothing?

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    Since it's not a problem in your timeline, who cares, right?
    When did I say it's not a problem?

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