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I'm not advocating for Koloko, I'm saying size isn't the issue with him. Personally I'd take Kamagate or Jaylin Williams before him.
^ I agree he's worthy of consideration at least. Personally I'm higher on Blake Wesley, but they're both undersized SG with high scoring potential, that could reap huge benefits for anyone willing to gamble on them. I'd definitely consider him at 25, if he's there and we didn't already take Wesley.
I'm not advocating for Koloko, I'm saying size isn't the issue with him. Personally I'd take Kamagate or Jaylin Williams before him.
Me to...
Jaden Hardy wanted to participate at the combine according to this ESPN vid. but couldn’t due to H&S protocols. Apparently his pro day was a masterclass in shooting, something the tweet below reiterates…
Paolo Banchero: 4-14 fgs, 1-3 3pt, 5-6 fts, 5 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 0 blk, 3 tos, 14 pts
E.J. Liddell: 5-10 fgs, 1-3 3pt, 3-7 fts, 14 reb, 6 ast, 0 stl, 3 blk, 4 tos, 14 pts
Ever watched him on Ignite?
Can he do any of this shooting while guarded?
Thank you.
Apparently the 2 games i caught were Bancheros rare stinkers.
And he sucked badly the 2 i watched. End of game soft and quitter on both O and D.
Good question. There's a clear need for an additional ball handler + volume scorer, particularly of the pull-up 3-point shooting variety and they were supposedly interested in Poole per timvp.
I watched a few games on YouTube. He definitely can shoot it while guarded and from distance too. Consistency appears to be the big issue, along with decision making on when to shoot...
He appears to have improved significantly across the season though.
Take the example of these two games, one from November '21 and the other March '22. Night and day difference on the floor, even just in the first quarter.
From what I read Jaden Hardy was pretty average in G-league. Sorry but one empthatic tweet and a 2 min vid from yet another twitter "expert" who probably got a call (+ some reward) from his agent don't make him a top 10 pick...
As I already said, the closer to the draft the greater and greater every of these kids will become. I mean dude actually kind of misses a lot in that clip comparing to your usual pimping vid where the guys just can't miss.
All good points.
Like many of the hyped guys coming into the season (PBJ, Caleb Houston, Max Christie etc), he definitely underwhelmed relative to expectations.
His numbers overall look horrid, especially for a shooter.
The highs though, there some of the best I’ve seen from this class IMHO. I think he’ll rise in the coming weeks if he performs well in workouts.
Im curious to get the true story of what happened to Baldwin. How does a top 5 HS recruit drop like that and then the bed at the combine?
Part of me still want to take him at 25 just on potential and hope that last year was an aberration. But damn what a fall from
Grace.
Top 5 ranking doesn’t mean top 5 player. There are a lot of people who have interests in promoting one player or another.
Emoni Bates was another one. the bed at Memphis, and is now in the transfer portal.
There's also the mental factor. That's one thing to be teenage king of you HS sleeping in mommy's house. Tha'ts another to discover and face the pressure of the adult pro world, realizing what's at stake in the middle of other hungry players... That's not always the most talented who succeed in pro sports.
Kumminga wasn't setting the G'League on fire either... or Scottie Barnes in College, or many other examples for that matter. You have to go beyond the struggles to find out their true worth. The best value picks are usually those whose potential doesn't match their production, for a mul ude of factors (adaptation to a new environment, early stage of development, system restricting players to a role, not adhering to archetypes -too old, not athletic enough-, etc.). That's how you better your draft position. And Hardy can be one of those. Or he can be a bust, also. But at the end of the first round that's gamble I'd be willing to take.
Marjon even at 20 would be fine. He has some untapped potential as a shot creator. Very explosive, maybe there is some Jaylen Brown in there. More likely a tame Kelly Oubre. One of the covid casualties like Jalen and Zaire.
I’m pretty skeptical of players from the gleague or overtime elite. I always feel that they over promote their players to promote their programs.
I'm not even sure what I'm hoping for (trading up, trading down, BPA, etc)... but I do know that if the BPA is a PF multiple times during our picks, that definitely wouldn't stop me from drafting more than 1 PF. We have the room, the need, the available minutes and it would be good to not throw all our eggs in the 1 basket.
You're right, but wer'e talking about a kid who showed promises in HS and was projected top 5 and then had a subpar season vs. professionals in the G League in what would have been his rookie season in the NBA. G leagu, is good enough material to judge the player, reason why he's mostly project mid draft and might drop past 20 if others rise... No way he's top 10, which was my point (and ironizing about the over emphatic tweet).
you can eventually take a risk on a guy like that as a contender, not for a team like the spurs at 9.
https://news.google.com/articles/CBM...S&ceid=US%3Aen
4 Forwards..
I like it.
Well, the last two are Patrick Baldwin and Caleb Houstan, so basically worthless picks. And Jovic? His terrible defense may make him unplayable. This draft is like the Spurs only picking once.
I'm starting to see Johnny Davis above Mathurin more lately.
If Indiana gets Davis at 6, then I’m taking Mathurin at 9 over Sochan. And Eason falling to 23? I’m grabbing him at 20. I didn’t have to trade my pick 25 which I’d use for Kessler over Baldwin on this mock scenario. I’ll wait the trade deadline to trade Poeltl for a future FRP (and SRP if possible). I would’ve love to get Davis because I think he’s a winner and checks-off goto scorer AND point-of-attack defender against athletic guards (who always torched the Spurs), but I could live with this version of a mock draft
The Pacers are probably the one hope of one of Mathurin/Daniels sliding to 9 since they're probably too conservative to go with a wild card like Sharpe, so in the likely event Murray goes 4-5 and they think it's close between the aforementioned guards/wings and Davis, I could see him winning out based on being a better theoretical fit with Haliburton and Duarte.
Last edited by TD 21; 06-06-2022 at 05:16 PM.
Still too early to tell, but Green and Kuminga look poised to be really good players. Don’t know how many years they’ve sent players so dont know much beyond those two tho.
Last edited by CGD; 06-06-2022 at 07:03 PM.
To get one of Murray, Daniels, Marhurin, or Sharpe at 9, you have to hope a team ahead of us falls in love with either Sochan, Davis, or Duren. If the Pacers take Murray it does nothing to help te chances of Mathurin/Davis falling
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