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    There's probably some endowment effect...effect here too. For example, I think both sides say no to a Primo swap for a pick in the teens.

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    I guess this could be a good debate topic. If Portland calls and offers the 7th pick straight up for Primo, or New Orleans offers the same for the 8th... do you take it?
    Anyone who doesn't has fallen for the sunk cost fallacy. That or hard drugs... maybe both.

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    I guess this could be a good debate topic. If Portland calls and offers the 7th pick straight up for Primo, or New Orleans offers the same for the 8th... do you take it?
    I like Primo but I would most def trade him for the 7th or 8th. Ben Mathurin is already better than Primo. Do it. That would ease the pressure on taking a defensive minded forward like Sochan with the 9th.

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    Hes just really young, honestly still developing and we are in the middle of summer and tired of talking about the same draft picks, which honestly I don't even want to invest myself on anyone in particular because I'd rather avoid disappointment if the team goes a different direction from a favorite.

    My real only disappointment is that he didn't shoot well and I think that was the one thing he had in his game that he could do competently to start with, but it's something he can work on in the summer and hopefully get that back and go from there. Honestly too young still to be too critical.

    I am more excited to see him play well in summer league to see his shot come back, keeping in mind that any kind of performance there is still not fully reflective of what he will be in the season but it will be nice to see how his shot is coming along.

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    From an article in the Athletic about possibilities of the Knicks moving up via the Spurs—and it briefly mentioned Spurs’ last 2 picks. Posting it since someone asked about non-fan perspective of him. I have no idea how to judge something like this myself.

    Josh Primo, who many scouts think would be a top-seven level talent in this year’s draft, showed real improvement in the last quarter of the season.”
    I've found that at least among the media scouts and enthusiast draft twitterati who have podcasts and internet clout, that when they talk about Primo it's obvious that they didn't watch him much during his Spurs minutes and just extrapolate wildly.

    There was one podcast I was listening to talking about the Spurs for the upcoming draft and they talked about Primo being this great athlete and an attack the rim guy or something and I about fell over

    I think Vecenie had a 2021 redraft show and had him 10, but still behind Sengun.

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    People we have bigger problems than Primo��

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    Primo is a 2-3 year project with hopes of a big upside. In 3 years with Spurs regimen, Spurs get a polished 20 yr old player. He’s shown flashes and does not get rattled. Spurs on a right track here.

    But with this draft, I don’t think they get too raw. I think they have a chance to get solid players at 9 (hopefully Davis), and trade up either 20 or 25 with Poeltl (or whoever) to get another lottery pick like Eason. Two solid lottery picks would be great. With Murray/Keldon/Vassell making big strides on their development, a credible FA signing hopefully, Spurs will be better this year and possibly contend the earliest next year if things pan out.

    I think Primo’s development is inline, while not as mezmerizing to some.

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    23 YO Agbaji has been beating up on 18 and 19 YOs and taking their lunch money for at least 2 years. He’s a mirage.
    Agbaji is 22, wasn't 22 until after the season. He's two years and 4 months older than Primo.

    Agbaji has a better vertical jump than Primo, more athletic, just better overall.
    Last edited by rascal; 06-06-2022 at 06:16 PM.

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    Agbaji is 22, wasn't 22 until after the season. He's two years and 4 months older than Primo.

    Agbaji has a better vertical jump than Primo, more athletic, just better overall.
    Lonnie has a better vertical and wingspan, and he’s a bust.

    Athleticism by itself is nothing.

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    Lonnie has a better vertical and wingspan, and he’s a bust.

    Athleticism by itself is nothing.
    Agbaji is better than Walker. Agbaji is a winner.

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    Primo has a killer instinct & confidence rarely exhibited by an 18/19 year old. The kid will make a jump this year I’m thinking
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    Primo showed me more on the defensive end than as a shooter which is unusual for a rookie IMO. Especially when his skillset was supposed to be as a shooter.

    Does anyone know the story on his missing shooting this year? Maybe they are trying to change his mechanics and it got him screwed up???

    I caan't imagine anyone giving us a lottery draft pick for him in a trade, certainly not straight up so the other details of the trade such as another player, draft picks added, etc. would be the controlling factor(s). But he is not on an untouchable list of tradeable players IMO

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    I feel safe saying that no one is offering us anything for Josh Primo, nor are we putting him on the table. I guess you can say he's fine in a vacuum, but neither he nor the others (excluding DJM) have shown enough to say we shouldn't draft another guard (in the hopes they can score), and so in that context, we very well may need to use our top pick on a guard, only adding further to the glut. So it's great, I guess, that he's so young and has so much room to grow, but unless Wright starts figuring out the roster and moving pieces around, then we will continue to be a jumbled, Frankenstein of a team. The Spurs don't like to rush, but if they continue in this direction, it could quickly become only a bigger headache.

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    Primo showed me more on the defensive end than as a shooter which is unusual for a rookie IMO. Especially when his skillset was supposed to be as a shooter.

    Does anyone know the story on his missing shooting this year? Maybe they are trying to change his mechanics and it got him screwed up???

    I caan't imagine anyone giving us a lottery draft pick for him in a trade, certainly not straight up so the other details of the trade such as another player, draft picks added, etc. would be the controlling factor(s). But he is not on an untouchable list of tradeable players IMO
    He had a funny one foot landing that actually injured him early in the season. I guess they figured that a non role rookie could have his shot reworked during the season. Didn’t go so well. Hopefully in the off-season, he can get it reworked.

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    Nah, I just deal in factual information. It’s not rocket science……

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    I hope they have him training 1 on 1 with Manu over the summer.

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    Nah, I just deal in factual information. It’s not rocket science……
    Miss Cleo here is full of provocative foresight.

    I like the kid; seems an OK chap.

    Thick legged kid-hope he can keep the weight off

    Just not a lotto pick. The drunk asshole owns this one too.

    Tell me Miss Cleo who wins the Preakness?

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    From an article in the Athletic about possibilities of the Knicks moving up via the Spurs—and it briefly mentioned Spurs’ last 2 picks. Posting it since someone asked about non-fan perspective of him. I have no idea how to judge something like this myself.

    Josh Primo, who many scouts think would be a top-seven level talent in this year’s draft, showed real improvement in the last quarter of the season.”
    hahaha he showed NOTHING when given NBA minutes to end the season. NOTHING.

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    I guess this could be a good debate topic. If Portland calls and offers the 7th pick straight up for Primo, or New Orleans offers the same for the 8th... do you take it?
    Of course you do but no one is that stupid to trade a top 10 pick for Primo.

    Like it or not we are fully invested in Joshua Primo. He was a reach at the time and 1yr later remains a reach. He has zero trade value so you might as well give him an extended opportunity to prove himself.

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    Of course you do but no one is that stupid to trade a top 10 pick for Primo.

    Like it or not we are fully invested in Joshua Primo. He was a reach at the time and 1yr later remains a reach. He has zero trade value so you might as well give him an extended opportunity to prove himself.
    Agree, The Spurs are invested in at least a three year plan with Primo. He has little to no trade value now.
    The Spurs can't continue filling the roster with Primo type of players.

    They need to get a sure fire contributor with the 9th pick not a three year project.

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    This team needs help
    It would have been nice to get a sure fire contributor with last year’s LOTTO pick.

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    Agree, The Spurs are invested in at least a three year plan with Primo. He has little to no trade value now.
    The Spurs can't continue filling the roster with Primo type of players.

    They need to get a sure fire contributor with the 9th pick not a three year project.
    Yet you argue for Sharpe.. he's going to take at least a couple years to contribute. Don't get me wrong, I like Sharpe and have him #7 on my BB even though he seems to be falling on most other boards out there but, he's certainly not a 'sure fire contributor'.

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    Yet you argue for Sharpe.. he's going to take at least a couple years to contribute. Don't get me wrong, I like Sharpe and have him #7 on my BB even though he seems to be falling on most other boards out there but, he's certainly not a 'sure fire contributor'.

    Primo doesn't have the skills that Sharpe has.

    I'd give Sharpe one year and he would be better than Primo even in his first year.

    Sharpe is a can't miss prospect, Primo isn't.
    Sharpe will need to get into game shape because he hasn't played but he will pass Primo quickly in development.

    Primo is still unknown if he will ever develop into anything more than a role player even after his first year. Primo is like a child coming into the league.
    Sharpe is more like Duren in development, looks much bigger.

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    Primo doesn't have the skills that Sharpe has.

    I'd give Sharpe one year and he would be better than Primo even in his first year.

    Sharpe is a can't miss prospect, Primo isn't.
    Sharpe will need to get into game shape because he hasn't played but he will pass Primo quickly in development.

    Primo is still unknown if he will ever develop into anything more than a role player even after his first year. Primo is like a child coming into the league.
    Sharpe is more like Duren in development, looks much bigger.
    If sharpe were a can’t miss, he’d be in the top 3. He’s way more of an unknown quan y and risk than Primo was, never playing NCAA ball. He just generated a ton of buzz by enrolling at UK.

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    If sharpe were a can’t miss, he’d be in the top 3. He’s way more of an unknown quan y and risk than Primo was, never playing NCAA ball. He just generated a ton of buzz by enrolling at UK.
    No way, you're wrong. Sharpe is not more of risk. We still aren't even sure Primo will develop into an elite offensive player even after one year.
    Primo doesn't look as good skill wise.

    So you would not trade Primo for Sharpe straight up because Sharpe is more of a risk?

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