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    At this point, with the rather nasty details of what Russia is doing out there, it should be clear that Putin/Russia don't need an off-ramp. They need to lose, and lose badly.

    Macron and Scholtz are slow walking everything they could be doing, trying to be the peacemakers, and are just eroding their country's respective standings in the way that Trump did for the US. They look like appeasing simps, and that is drawing a lot of criticism.
    Macron is in the bag for Putin...they've got their arrangement.

    Germany, they're making a fortune thru this Russian aggression...(they ain't giving it away like us) and STILL risk nary German youth as they've risked nary since II. ended nigh on 80 years ago. They're having the time of their lives over this war, make no mistake.

    And for once we're not risking nary American youth...this is Biden's wet dream...teasing/tormenting Putin without ending up out at Dover with his watch and the kids.

    You're waking up though---though MSM will deny it to the bitter end...there is no off ramp for Russia, Putin desires nary. China won't interfere,,,it's Putin V. Biden/USA just like both men wanted it all along. Biden see's salvation, Putin see's victory.

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    Russians sent 160 Ukranians back in body bags?

    Ukraine could return the favor and sent 160 tank crew members back in a quart size ziplock bag.

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    UKRAINE

    Published June 1, 2022 9:04am EDT

    Zelenskyy says Ukraine losing 60-100 service members daily in intense eastern fighting.

    Zelenskyy says 500 Ukrainian fighters are wounded every day.


    ~~~

    a. they ed around.
    b. they found out.
    c. "you have a nice day."



    UKRAINE


    Published June 6, 2022 8:53am EDT


    Ukraine-Russia war: As Kyiv's losses mount, how long can they keep up the battle?


    President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Ukraine is now losing 60 to 100 soldiers each day in combat

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    Z, pissin' & moanin' once & again.








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    Patton was right. They had everything they needed in place to push the Russians back out of Eastern Europe but politicians decided not to.
    We were still fighting Japan. McArthur basically thought the same thing about China after Japan.
    We were not trying to fight the two largest armies in the world right at the end and after WWII?
    We were producing massive amounts of equipment by that time, but we really did not want an overload of more blood.

    The politicians were right on this one. These were two generals, Patton and McArthur, way too big for their boots. imo..
    ie a DEMOCRACY worked. The boys were eventually brought home except the mistake in Korea of pushing too hard.

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    "Stand with us or starve"

    Wrt loan and bond payments in the context of rising interest rates, this dilemma is likely to recur in the global south and particularly in Africa, which is highly dependent on Black Sea cereal staples.


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    Bidens trip to Saudi postponed


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    Bidens trip to Saudi postponed

    He was about to up, found out and got his chicken on. Perhaps the Saudi's were going to do to him what he vowed to do if MBS landed on American soil...take him into custody on-the-spot, not for the Twin Towers, but for disemboweling that Yogi scribe. Now? Now Biden will double down on the Yogi . Just watch.

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    "Stand with us or starve"

    Wrt loan and bond payments in the context of rising interest rates, this dilemma is likely to recur in the global south and particularly in Africa, which is highly dependent on Black Sea cereal staples.

    To the victors go the spoils, Winester. Good for Putin.

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    To the victors go the spoils, Winester. Good for Putin.
    Not to mention Russia has been #1 grain exporter already (Ukros was #6)

    In other words Russia is selling their for the most part

    The hungry will buy it and tell Uncle Sam to go a Goat

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    s getting real




    War is tbqh

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    Not to mention Russia has been #1 grain exporter already (Ukros was #6)

    In other words Russia is selling their for the most part
    hater praises thievery

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    We are lierally stealing Syrian oil and selling it

    We also sold an Iranian tanker oil. All of it



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    Dang, it was a twofer!!!!! Bingo!




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    A lot of generals are feeling the need to lead from the front. Russian strategy is as top down as it gets but I get the feeling that Russian morale has to be poor given how many keep on putting themselves in harms way. They obviously do not trust their battalion leaders to do their job.

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    Putin...


    Biden...



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    "This time dude; right-between-the-eyes."

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    Putin...


    Biden...



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    Left to fend for himself by his troop during ambush!!!!

    They ed around and found out!


    UKRAINE has reportedly wiped out TWO of Vladimir Putin's generals in a single strike - bringing the death toll of top-rank Russian commanders to 12.

    "On the morning of June 5, Lt-Gen Roman Berdnikov, who led the Russian troops and units of the DPR from Donetsk, left with the headquarters on a working trip.

    “On the way, presumably on a bridge, the vehicles of the headquarters were attacked by a Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group."

    Part of the Russian convoy was "destroyed or immobilised" - but some vehicles were able to escape the ambush and fled.

    “After that, our sources reported that Roman Berdnikov died in this battle," Sladkov said.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/ukraine-wipes-out-two-putins-generals-single-strike

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    Macron is in the bag for Putin...they've got their arrangement.

    Germany, they're making a fortune thru this Russian aggression...(they ain't giving it away like us) and STILL risk nary German youth as they've risked nary since II. ended nigh on 80 years ago. They're having the time of their lives over this war, make no mistake.

    And for once we're not risking nary American youth...this is Biden's wet dream...teasing/tormenting Putin without ending up out at Dover with his watch and the kids.

    You're waking up though---though MSM will deny it to the bitter end...there is no off ramp for Russia, Putin desires nary. China won't interfere,,,it's Putin V. Biden/USA just like both men wanted it all along. Biden see's salvation, Putin see's victory.
    Thread testifyin' on a Tuesday.

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    I firmly believe that China has no control of what Putin will do. It’s not like they are natural allies. China just has to adjust to make sure they are in the best economic and political position they can be given the situation. China prides itself on being a controlled economic powerhouse. With this comes the ability to project power to carry out economic stability and growth just like us, but without the mess of a democracy. The political elite who know best will control the military and the people.

    Putin is not fresh off the turnip truck. This was a huge undertaking, a gamble that Ukraine would capitulate quickly so that the West had no ability to help. Just like Crimea. A real problem was that these two countries had already had a limited war going since 2014. Ukraine was familiar with the sacrifices, the question was, could they be overwhelmed quickly. It did not work out. Putin is old and he has always had the horrors of the Soviet Union dying to live with. He has said as much multiple times he just puts it into grandiose language. There are no superheroes that fit your needs. Reality is messy.

    He royally fked up Russia and Ukraine. And made the rest of the world worse off. Putin wanted and still wants all of Ukraine. He will not see this happen in his life Imo. So now he saves face with altered definitions of success. But still clings to Russia owning Europe in his dreams. Hopefully he goes away somehow because most of the rest of the world is worse off for this mess.

    let’s get the history straightened out:

    Russia/ Soviets did not WIN WWII for us all. They were allies with Nazi Germany until they got turned on.These two countries planned dividing up Europe between them. When Germany could not take GB they turned East on the Soviets. The Germans got a butt kicking in Russia. Then the Soviets fresh off a victory moved West, and the US and GB went east. When the two forces met one side produced a free Europe, the other side made a land grab they had already planned for WITH NAZI GERMANY. Ask Poland what it feels like to be double invaded. This is why they are most likely Russias largest worry now. The Poles will not let what they went through happen again. I’m not fond of this glorification of Stalin and his slaughter of his own people and Eastern Europe. Of course the Soviets fought valiantly for their own land. But after that they made a giant land grab. Stalin was as bad as Hitler, just much less organized. This bs concerning the Soviets and Stalin has been romanticized. Its pure crap.
    China is substantially smarter than Russia. They know where their bread gets buttered, and they also know the position they're in right now is directly related to western nations, especially the US.

    China was a bit economy until the 90s, when they officially became the manufacturing arm of the USA.

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