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    Derrick just air-balled a wide open 3 and then got benched lol.

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    Derrick looks good out there. If that 3 pt went in, I’d be protesting this trade

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    Derrick back to looking like hot garbage. Dude is so bipolar and plays scared so often. You hate to see it.
    What game are you watching man, lol. He’s made numerous winning plays today.

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    I think Derrick’s playing good could help the cause for trading for ex-Spurs players. I know teams already covets ex-Spurs as good character glue players. Now if only that helps with unloading Poeltl for a high pick

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    Derrick just air-balled a wide open 3 and then got benched lol.
    Lol. Did you watch that play? They threw him the ball in a crowd with 2 seconds left on the clock and he had to hoist it.

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    What game are you watching man, lol. He’s made numerous winning plays today.
    I posted that late in the 1st Qtr. He played much better in the 2nd qtr beside the missed layup and air-balled 3.

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    Derrick having another stinker tonight offensively. 3/10 shooting and ALL his misses have been wide open except for one missed layup that he should’ve made also. He’s been solid defensively for the most part, but he’s killin the C’s on offense.

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    Derrick having another stinker tonight offensively. 3/10 shooting and ALL his misses have been wide open except for one missed layup that he should’ve made also. He’s been solid defensively for the most part, but he’s killin the C’s on offense.

    thats his mo,nothings changed

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    Derrick having another stinker tonight offensively. 3/10 shooting and ALL his misses have been wide open except for one missed layup that he should’ve made also. He’s been solid defensively for the most part, but he’s killin the C’s on offense.
    A team worst -12

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    He's consistent in all other areas, just not with shooting. If he could start hitting shots consistently, he'd be really, really good.

    I still think the foot injuries have affected his shot and/or confidence shooting it. He wasn't the greatest shooter before, but he was much better (at least more consistent) than what he's shown these past couple of years.

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    White wasn't brought to Boston by Brad Stevens and Ime Udoka to be Steph Curry or even Buddy Hield. They knew he wasn't a great three point shooter. He was brought on because he plays defense and isn't a ball stopper on offense. Sure, they'd be thrilled if he could shoot 36% rather than 30%, but that's not his principle job. His +/- numbers for the seven games against Milwaukee were -8, +22, +9, +18, +8, +9, +10. That's why he was brought there. He makes them a better team.
    LOL. His 3pt % is closer to 25% in the playoffs and his +\- relative to the point differential is nothing to brag about.
    I'd say posting positive +/- numbers in two loses is actually something to brag about. 3pt% is always going to waver in small sample sizes. But again, he wasn't brought there to be a 3pt wizard. One example: Last night in the Phoenix game, Dallas continually hunted Chris Paul on defense. Teams aren't going to do that to White. And I'd argue that White's temperament, which could be frustrating if he's one of your starters, is actually an advantage as a bench player. White's never going to makes waves complaining that he should get more shots. He knows that the hierarchy is set on that team, and has no inclination to mess with it. He's a perfect 6th/7th man on a good team.
    White’s advanced analytics were through the roof in that blowout win in game 2.
    Brad Stevens & Ime saw Derrick clearly for the role of 6th/7th man/defender/connector, and it has worked out perfectly for them. Every & any metric you could possibly look at says it's a successful pairing. It'll always be a <what if?> situation with the Spurs, where Kawhi stays, Dejounte improves, and other moves are made, but in a similar scenario he'd probably do the same for that What If Spurs team. I agree though, it is amazing that there are still people absolutely convinced that Josh Richardson is the better player. A guy who has been traded from 4 consecutive playoff teams. The Celtics could win a championship this year with White in the positive for every impact stat imaginable, and there would still be people who say he sucks he only scores 12 points per game. , even if they don't win a chip, it's a successful year! They're in the finals.
    A team worst -12

    I feel like you're trying to have it both ways here-- when D White has the best +/-, you write it off as insignificant, but when he has the worst +/- in a win, you use it as a stat to bolster your argument against him. If his net negative status in a win is meaningful, then I'd say it's hard to argue that his generally very positive +/- status isn't meaningful, right?

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    I feel like you're trying to have it both ways here-- when D White has the best +/-, you write it off as insignificant, but when he has the worst +/- in a loss, you use it as a stat to bolster your argument against him. If his net negative status in a win is meaningful, then I'd say it's hard to argue that his generally very positive +/- status isn't meaningful, right?
    My argument is that D White is a decent role player, who is easily replaceable. On many nights he is a basically a rounding error.

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    My argument is that D White is a decent role player, who is easily replaceable. On many nights he is a basically a rounding error.

    Understandable... and I'm on record in this thread saying it was a good trade for both teams. My only debate is with people don't differentiate between a poor shooting year and an overall poor performance-- the first of which I think is an honest assessment of Derrick, and the second of which i think is simply not accurate.

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    Understandable... and I'm on record in this thread saying it was a good trade for both teams. My only debate is with people don't differentiate between a poor shooting year and an overall poor performance-- the first of which I think is an honest assessment of Derrick, and the second of which i think is simply not accurate.
    Agreed. He seems like a great guy but watching him shoot brick after brick is frustrating. I was pounding rhe table all season long to move him and I’m quite impressed with the return.

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    He's consistent in all other areas, just not with shooting. If he could start hitting shots consistently, he'd be really, really good. He has still been doing his usual thing when it comes to defense, passing, taking charges etc.

    I still think the foot injuries have affected his shot and/or maybe also a little decline in confidence shooting the ball. He wasn't the greatest shooter before, but he was much better (at least more consistent) than what he's shown these past couple of years.

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    d white is a solid niche player but struggled to find that niche here in SA. he's perfect for what Boston needed though.

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    White's shooting is a bonus. Of course it's great if he's hitting, but he's invaluable to this Celtics team in 1) his passing and circulation of the ball for a team that struggles with ball sticking, 2) his defense, both on the perimeter but particularly the interior, and 3) his intangibles. As we know, Derrick is a guy who simply makes plays. He's a role-player, to be sure, but he's fitting what they need very well. So even if he's not hitting shots, he's still a threat from deep; but he does so much otherwise.

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    Beware trading with the Spurs. They seldom trade anything of value, exception was Kawhi as he forced himself out.

    Off a Celtic board.

    After a really good game 1, White's back to playing how he did in the regular season (which I thought was ok at best and not good enough to justify the cost of the trade).

    Games 2-4 in the finals --> -17 in Game 2 (only player with a worse number was Tatum at -36), 4-13 with only 2 assists and 3 TOs; -12 in Game 3 (the only Celtic with a "-"), 3-9 with 2 assist and 1 TO; -19 ('led' the team in that category) in Game 4, 4-12 with 1 asst and 3 TOs.

    just not getting it done. people all season liked to bring up his +/- just take attention from his shooting woes but now he's not even able to support that argument

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    His breakthrough games should be cherished but never counted on. He’s a 7th man on a Finals team and that’s his best role. He was our second best player. Yikes.

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    The Celtics choked the last 7 minutes of Game 4 and White was on the floor, did absolutely nothing,
    stood on the 3 point line in the corner most of the time on offense, barely touched the ball other than an airball 3 point corner shot.

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    The Celtics choked the last 7 minutes of Game 4 and White was on the floor, did absolutely nothing,
    stood on the 3 point line in the corner most of the time on offense, barely touched the ball other than an airball 3 point corner shot.

    and its not like hes stopping curry anytime soon.

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    Whites been fine. No Celtics fan can really complain about him honestly. But this is what he is. Am above average role player.

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    The obsession of making every game a referendum on White is ridiculous. He's already shown he's a guy who can swing games for them. He doesn't have to do more to make it a good trade for the Celtics. For the Spurs, they'll have to do good things with the pieces they got. That's it. White's a good player, and he's been showing that. Some folks are just so deep in their need to feel vindicated that they're trying to find any piece of evidence to support their busted position.

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    Yea i dont get the spur sniffers constantly defending him and the haters tearing him down. He is a nice "role" player,nothing more needs to be said.


    seems just like yesterday ....
    Last edited by slick'81; 06-11-2022 at 05:07 PM.

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    It’s unfair to put it all on White. Tatum and Brown are mental midgets that shrink in big moments, and, honestly, the guy that kills them more often than not is Smart. It is befuddling how sloppy and turnover prone this Boston team can be. Take care the the freakin ball for Gods sakes!

    Where’s the accountability for those guy?

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