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Check the Tari Eason thread, it's being talked about there.
Scratch Eason off our draft board boys. He appears to be a dumbass.
Check the Tari Eason thread, it's being talked about there.
Outside of that spurs pick, that draft makes quite a bit of sense. Can see it playing it close to that.If we take Mark Williams with Davis, Daniels and Sochan still on the board, the meltdown in this thread will be hilarious tbh
I'm not a pro scout, but Davis and Daniels seem to have top much potential to pass on. That would likely get me a little sour.
There's a handful of teams who could really use his shooting to surround their stars. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes early for that alone.
Uninformed gut feeling is we pick Dieng or Mark Williams.
I can see that, but what a drag. It would mean no desire to improve over last year.
I can see that, but what a drag. It would mean no desire to improve over last year.
Dieng has a high upside and Mark Williams could make Jakob expendable. I think if they were to get that route too it’s because they like a guard or wing in the 20s like Jwill, Tyty, Blake, Hardy, Terry, etc.
I dont see how SA passes on Daniels for WilliamsOutside of that spurs pick, that draft makes quite a bit of sense. Can see it playing it close to that.
I'm not a pro scout, but Davis and Daniels seem to have top much potential to pass on. That would likely get me a little sour.
I don't see how they pass on Duren for Williams. Mocks aren't the be all and end all, but I haven't seen ONE that had Williams ahead of Duren. If you're going to draft a C, draft the best one, and the one more suited to today's game.
I get frustrated with mocks. The draft should be about getting the guy that will fit best with your team, that you can develop, and that will excel in your organization. Just because a guy is mocked in the top 10, doesn’t mean he’ll be one of the 10 best players from the draft.
Every year there are guys picked in the late 1st and 2nd that out produce lottery picks. Who cares about the mocks, just go get your guy and live with the results.
NBC Sports (Zak Hanshew): A.J. Griffin, F, Duke
Bleacher Report (Greg Swartz): Dyson Daniels, G, G-League Ignite
USA Today / FTW (Bryan Kalbrosky): Johnny Davis, G, Wisconsin
Sports Illustrated (Jeremy Woo): Jeremy Sochan, F, Baylor
Yahoo! Sports (Krysten Peck): Jeremy Sochan, F, Baylor
ESPN Insider (Jonathan Givony): Jalen Duren, C, Memphis
The Athletic (Sam Vecenie): A.J. Griffin, F, Duke
NBC Sports (Raphielle Johnson): A.J. Griffin, F, Duke
Bleacher Report (Jonathan Wasserman): Johnny Davis, G, Wisconsin
The Ringer (Kevin O'Connor): Bennedict Mathurin, F, Arizona
NetScouts Basketball (Carl Berman): Jalen Duren, C, Memphis
CBS Sports (Kyle Boone): Dyson Daniels, G, G-League Ignite
CBS Sports (Gary Parrish): Jalen Duren, C, Memphis
SB Nation (Ricky O’Donnell): Bennedict Mathurin, F, Arizona
Fantasy Pros (Kyle Williams): Jalen Duren, C Memphis
Rookie Wire (Cody Taylor): Bennedict Mathurin, F, Arizona
Feeling cynical at the moment, I'm just going to scratch all those names off and assume we won't draft any of them. Lol. I hope it's not Mark Williams we end up with. Dieng would at least fit a position of need, and is young, and "upside", and skilled. It seems there are some questions about his athleticism so that makes him more likely. Yeah, feeling salty right now. But oddly, I still think there's an outside chance they go for Eason, though not super likely.
A lot of people, especially those on message boards like these, place too much emphasis in Mocks that tell them certain picks are a reach or a "bad pick" - but like you said, the draft works with teams making the best picks for their team not "the consensus top guy at this spot". We all have our favorites, but at the end of the day the Spurs have a professional scouting staff and we are just a bunch of people on the internet.
With that said, I'm still ready to curse at the sky if we draft AJ Griffin at 9.
Dieng is weak at getting to the rim. Rather pull up for floater shots. Not seeing the offensive upside many in here are seeing.
griffin worked out with the blazers yesterday; it'd be great if he went to portland because that'd be higher than i expect him to go.
It's kind of funny to read so many positive scouting reports on Dieng and then run into this one, by someone who doesn't like him at all: https://deanondraft.com//?s=dieng&search=Go
I generally like this guy's takes. At the very least, he's very interesting even when I don't agree. He's the opposite of Mike Schmitz, who I also like, in that he's not trying to make friends with anyone.
Some excerpts:
Dieng burst onto prospect radar in 2019, playing for France’s u16 team that won the silver medal. In 22 minutes he averaged 8.9 pts 2.7 rebounds 3.6 assists, showing an intriguing intersection of passing and shooting for a 6’9 wing but also shooting just 33% from the field.
Most recently he has played for the New Zealand Breakers, by far the worst team in the Australian NBL who went 5-23 with -8.7 point differential.
After a dreadful start to the season, he finished strong. He finished the year averaging 20.8 minutes, 8.9 points, 3.1 rebs, 1 ast, 1.4 tovs, 0.6 stls, and 0.3 blks with 47.9% TS and a paltry 10.7 PER. His biggest appeal is his shooting, or at least his belief that he can shoot as he attempted 4.2 3’s per game and made 27.1%.
Over the past 3 seasons from ages 16 thru 18 he has shot 138/462 (29.9%) from 3 and 88/112 (78.6%) FT. So he’s not exactly a good shooter at this point, but in time he could develop into one for his size.
And whoever drafts him better hope that he does, because there is not much to like outside of that. He does not have much shake or burst, and struggles to beat anybody off the dribble. And in spite of his size, he is not much of a defensive playmaker with mediocre rebound, steal, and block numbers.
I can assure you that virtually no NBA organizations care about mocks. Mocks are for fan engagement when only a few teams are still playing. They're fun, and invariably wrong after only a few picks.
I'd say that I agree generally... but Portland did hire Mike Schmitz as an advisor., and Memphis hired Hollinger at one point. There are way too many mocks out there, and it's hard to sift through them all, but I'd still say the best ones are pretty good and worth looking over.
‘Now set to workout with Charlotte…
Hope that entices them to trade up to no. 9 with us...
Nice article, but I wish he'd mentioned the difference between J Will's teammates and those of Mathurin, Braun, & Wesley. If you go by something like # of teammates in the RSCI Top 100, Braun had 5, Mathurin had 4, and Wesley had 3. Jalen had zero. Santa Clara's conference rival Gonzaga had 9!
That's really early for Sharpe. I doubt he falls that far.
Dude really doesn't like DavisIt's kind of funny to read so many positive scouting reports on Dieng and then run into this one, by someone who doesn't like him at all: https://deanondraft.com//?s=dieng&search=Go
I generally like this guy's takes. At the very least, he's very interesting even when I don't agree. He's the opposite of Mike Schmitz, who I also like, in that he's not trying to make friends with anyone.
Some excerpts:
Dieng burst onto prospect radar in 2019, playing for France’s u16 team that won the silver medal. In 22 minutes he averaged 8.9 pts 2.7 rebounds 3.6 assists, showing an intriguing intersection of passing and shooting for a 6’9 wing but also shooting just 33% from the field.
Most recently he has played for the New Zealand Breakers, by far the worst team in the Australian NBL who went 5-23 with -8.7 point differential.
After a dreadful start to the season, he finished strong. He finished the year averaging 20.8 minutes, 8.9 points, 3.1 rebs, 1 ast, 1.4 tovs, 0.6 stls, and 0.3 blks with 47.9% TS and a paltry 10.7 PER. His biggest appeal is his shooting, or at least his belief that he can shoot as he attempted 4.2 3’s per game and made 27.1%.
Over the past 3 seasons from ages 16 thru 18 he has shot 138/462 (29.9%) from 3 and 88/112 (78.6%) FT. So he’s not exactly a good shooter at this point, but in time he could develop into one for his size.
And whoever drafts him better hope that he does, because there is not much to like outside of that. He does not have much shake or burst, and struggles to beat anybody off the dribble. And in spite of his size, he is not much of a defensive playmaker with mediocre rebound, steal, and block numbers.
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