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    My guess is that Sharpe is gone well before the #8 pick, unless somehow they have intel that he's dropping. Of course they may have more than one player they're targeting.

    For my money, putting Holmgren next to Duren is salivating. One is a spacer, both are aggressive defenders. That would potentially be insane.
    That would be a scary lineup in a couple years...add a 3D sf and they'd be on their way..

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    New Orleans GM already seen scouting OKC Micic, probably close to done that OKC jumps to 8. OKC fans think it is Shaedon Sharpe though.
    His rights won't get them to jump 4 spots into the top 10. They have more than enough assets to do it if they want to, however.

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    For my money, putting Holmgren next to Duren is salivating. One is a spacer, both are aggressive defenders. That would potentially be insane.
    That'd be scary offense... for the one team featuring them. I've seen Chet's offense with big games on the line... he disappeared. I see no indication that he's going to be a dominant offensive big, other than he can shoot the 3 in transition. As a complementary piece he'll be fine AS LONG AS HE LASTS (big if), but I don't see him as a first or second option on a contender, maybe not even third.

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    Do they really have time? I mean SGA is now in his max contract and I'm sure he's tired of losing...I think their window of time is shrinking..
    They won't miss out on tanking for the french kid next draft.

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    That'd be scary offense... for the one team featuring them. I've seen Chet's offense with big games on the line... he disappeared. I see no indication that he's going to be a dominant offensive big, other than he can shoot the 3 in transition. As a complementary piece he'll be fine AS LONG AS HE LASTS (big if), but I don't see him as a first or second option on a contender, maybe not even third.
    I'm talking about defense. Duren's strength overlaps Holmgren's length. Potential issues on the perimeter, but you load up on Dort types and you have a crazy interior defense because Giddey is giving up lanes anyway. Offensively, Holmgren projects as like a third or fourth option anyway and could develop into more.

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    They want Dieng. 100%. And of they can get him before SA does at 9, they will.
    If they REALLY want him, they can get him. No one else has as many assets to pull it off, and it should be no problem using some of that to trade with someone in the 5-8 range... it's not like it's full of franchise prospects there. So if they don't, it's because they are not really that high on him.

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    I'm talking about defense. Duren's strength overlaps Holmgren's length. Potential issues on the perimeter, but you load up on Dort types and you have a crazy interior defense because Giddey is giving up lanes anyway. Offensively, Holmgren projects as like a third or fourth option anyway and could develop into more.
    If a team can afford to play him next to a more physical big and not demand him to carry a large offensive load, that's his best scenario, so that I agree with.

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    I have absolutely no idea what the spurs plan to do lol but they’re in a really good spot tbh I think they’ll let the draft unfold on draft day. All it takes is for a team or two to draft two guys that weren’t expected To go in that range and guys will be falling.

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    I have absolutely no idea what the spurs plan to do lol but they’re in a really good spot tbh I think they’ll let the draft unfold on draft day. All it takes is for a team or two to draft two guys that weren’t expected To go in that range and guys will be falling.
    It's a good point. Keegan Murray could somehow fall. Crazy things happen. And then we'd pass on him to get Dieng. Lol.

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    It's a good point. Keegan Murray could somehow fall. Crazy things happen. And then we'd pass on him to get Dieng. Lol.
    Its probably been all smoke but I’ve seen reports about Dyson Daniels, Jalen Duren, AJ Griffin all going in the top 5-7 range, that would be Christmas for SA but then they take Dieng like you mentioned lmao

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    Dyson is ATL target if a Collins for #7 gets done per Jake Fischer.

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    FIFY.

    Just like Spurs fans wish CHA wants Poetl.
    well, the hornets really need a big and the montrez harrell situation isn't going to help.

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    Lol, we have no idea who they're targeting. Give me a break.
    Yeah, except for the now two scouts from them saying they either really like him or think he'd be the steal of the draft. If he's available after their first pick at 2, he's going to be selected by OKC. Book it.

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    Duren is like a slightly larger, much better RW III type center. Mark Williams is your traditional center.
    Agreed. But Duren has to fill out before you compare him to RWIII

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    Its probably been all smoke but I’ve seen reports about Dyson Daniels, Jalen Duren, AJ Griffin all going in the top 5-7 range, that would be Christmas for SA but then they take Dieng like you mentioned lmao
    I think they could target Duren or Daniels so not that good. But in final i'm ok they could totally take Dieng.

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    Agreed. But Duren has to fill out before you compare him to RWIII
    duren is pretty solid.

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    well, the hornets really need a big and the montrez harrell situation isn't going to help.
    They were in the Market for a big and even though many people doubted it, Poetl was an obvious option. People can argue all day of opinion, but poetl is one of the best big men in the league on a team that does not know how to throw a lob. Get Poetl with someone who can run a big man focused lob and he will get even better. He's pretty athletic and a great shot blocker. He has shown this year to be an efficient scorer as well down low. Not the best but definitely not empty stats offensively.

    He could easily be a missing piece to a contender who have their stars aligned. He's a great support player who takes pride in doing his job.

    I won't be surprised to see him involved during or after the draft to a contender. The Montrez situation didn't play out for the hornets the way they wanted. They're probably regretting not going in stronger at the deadline with last year's fizzle after an exciting start. Montrez barely played late. And now these legal issues as well. Poetls stock has increased. Draft will determine a lot.

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    Yeah, except for the now two scouts from them saying they either really like him or think he'd be the steal of the draft. If he's available after their first pick at 2, he's going to be selected by OKC. Book it.
    Except we know they were working out Sharpe. So... nope, we don't know. Book it.

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    Agreed. But Duren has to fill out before you compare him to RWIII
    Interesting enough, in the two comps I've read for Duren, one said Drummond (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jalen-duren/) and the other said Dwight Howard mixed w Chris Webber (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/jalen-duren/) so I'm sure body-wise at least he'll fill out lol

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    Interesting enough, in the two comps I've read for Duren, one said Drummond (https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jalen-duren/) and the other said Dwight Howard mixed w Chris Webber (https://nbadraftroom.com/p/jalen-duren/) so I'm sure body-wise at least he'll fill out lol
    oh he will. just saying he's not gonna go into the NBA in year 1 or 2 and get after the offensive boards the way RWIII is showing in the playoffs. But yes, I absolutely expect his frame to fill out.

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    Duren's body is the least thing anyone should worry about...

    I agree with the Dwight/Webber comp btw...

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    Except we know they were working out Sharpe. So... nope, we don't know. Book it.
    Perhaps they expect him to be gone by pick 10. And perhaps they're doing their due diligence on other players.

    Let's make this clear for those in the back. I said OKC will take Dieng with their second pick *if he's still on the board.*

    And as another poster said, they have the assets to move up to get him at say 8 if they so choose, and if they think doing so is worthwhile. I'm not making that prediction but i am betting they take him at 10 if he remains.

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    Duren's body is the least thing anyone should worry about...

    I agree with the Dwight/Webber comp btw...
    Sigh. Not worried about it in the least. Merely pointing out he's not going to be RWIII out of the gate.

    I'm also simply not as high on him as others are in his overall production at 9. There are about 4 or 5 other players I'd rather have at 9. If he's there at 20, sure, take the kid.

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    some player (per usual) is going to sneak into the top 10 that one expected to and some other player is going to drop. it wouldn't shock me if duren or davis are gone before 9 or if sharpe and mathurin are still around at 9. what i'd give to see these teams draft boards.

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    That'd be scary offense... for the one team featuring them. I've seen Chet's offense with big games on the line... he disappeared. I see no indication that he's going to be a dominant offensive big, other than he can shoot the 3 in transition. As a complementary piece he'll be fine AS LONG AS HE LASTS (big if), but I don't see him as a first or second option on a contender, maybe not even third.
    Best thing to do for OKC is trade the 2 down to 4 and take the asset they get from that trade and add it to the 12 and get 7 or 8. Or trade a current player(Gilgeous-Alexander or Giddey) for 7 or 8 and at 12 draft a center M Williams.

    They may come away with Ivey(2) Williams(5) and Sharpe(3) and build around them with Giddey(1).
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