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I undestand, we're ok if they draft 3 players at least one will be a PF/C.
Just to be clear, if the Spurs only had one FRP then my opinion changes. I don’t think they necessarily go for a PF/C if they had only one pick.
I undestand, we're ok if they draft 3 players at least one will be a PF/C.
Thanks Timvp.
The heavy on the guard could be just an insurance in case Lonnie gets a bigger offer. But I think they’d sign him back if the numbers are right. It’s just what the Spurs mostly do with their FRP’s.
I’m curious about the Coach Brown-Duren connection if he’s really that good not to miss. Still I rather they chase Myles Turner as I want another picks combinations at 9 and 20/25.
I’m still for Davis at 9 because I feel he is the BPA with the best fit and need go-to scorer and point-of-attack defender, plus huge leadership/character/compe or.
The list of PF’s is a good indicator that Spurs are trying to address that defensive weakness at 4. I still like Sochan, Eason, LaRavia and Liddell, again only after drafting Davis at 9.
While Procida remains my biggest suspect at international candidate. I’d prefer Jovic or Dieng if they’re so willing to get stashed, because of the size and natural skills. Dieng scares me a bit because of his tendency to avoid contacts finishing at the rim. He gives me that Diaw vibes, including the laissez faire approach to basketball, oozing with talent but short on motor at times.
I’d be glued on the screen come Thursday, and awaits the yearly ST bichin the following day
Max Christie: I tend to think the Spurs overvalue these good character guys, because they’re usually soft, but I can understand wanting to avoid bad characters, obviously. He has challenges finishing at the rim it sounds like. I hope this won’t mean more assertiveness training. I’m kind of done with that, but I think that’s the trade off for their type of player. I don’t know. We’ll see.
I'm starting to think there's a real chance that #9 is the pick we end up trading with all the Minott and Christie talk...
If so, that’s taking a long road and most likely not trading for ready now players unless they have a different opinion of our players then I do. But hard to say what is real or not at this point.
I think if we trade #9 it's for a starting caliber player...not future draft capital..
The Spurs really pigeon hole players and themselves with their character criteria. The pendulum needs to swing back to drafting talent over character for me to see this as a successful draft.
everything is possible but i think the spurs are targeting some players at 9, i don't see a scenario where they trade the pick except for moving up ( unlikely).
Funny enough I was just watching Max Christie videos earlier this week and thinking that he was the kind of guy the Spurs are usually interested in. Using a FRP on him would be hard to swallow though. Still think we trade 20 + 25 to move up into the teens though. Unless he’s available at 38, I don’t see it happening.
Based on this, I dont see how SA could have Dyson over Johnny Davis….I mean, I like Dyson, but is he so much better defensively that you have him over Johnny? I dont know.
SA will have to move up for Mauthrin. That much is crystal clear.
Great write up. Seems like at least two of the guys you profile for the later picks are reasonable facsimiles of Davis. It makes me wonder if they’re serious about a big at 9, as rumored, while also hoping to get a 85% version of Davis at 20.
Agree on Mathurin. Dude ain’t falling to 9 at this point.
My top 4 realistic as of today I think: Mathurin, Sochan, Johnny and Dyson. Duren and Sharpe would be in the “I trust the spurs” range too if they happened. I think I prefer one of those 4-6 guys.
There are others, but that is my preference, in order at the moment. I also personally do not think Mathurin or Sochan will be there at 9 either. So its Johnny, Dyson, Duren/Sharpe for me.
Whoever we get will probably be a project, so be kind of prepared for it.
Re the Larry Brown endorsement of Duren...maybe pump the breaks. It was Larry Brown who highly recommended Jackie Butler to the Spurs, which proved to have been a disastrous move which ultimately cost us Scola to get rid of Butler. So maybe caveat emptor with any of Brown's recommendations. He's in his 80s now and maybe the games passed him by. For the record, I do think Duren will be a very good player and wouldn't be upset if we drafted him.
One bad talent eval doesn’t erase everything else.
I’m coming around on Duren. The thing about Duren is he seems like the safest bet at 9 to be a contributor, even if he doesn’t develop much from the current product. Everyone else has question marks to get there, even if they have a higher potential upside. Maturin remains the most realistic guy I’d love to get if we can swing a reasonable trade to move up.
Spurs guys……. Keegan Murray, Johnny Davis. Dyson Daniels, Mark Williams, Jalen Williams, Malaki Branham, Jeremy Sochan
Non Spurs guys…… Just my opinion (based off personality) Shaedon Sharpe, Benn Mathurin, Jalen Duren, Ousmane Dieng, AJ griffin
those Non spurs guys might end up as the pick but when you listen to interviews I’m not sure they scream spurs to me.
that's basically how I feel about Davis/Sochan vs. Christie/Minott. There might not be that much of a difference down the line between the guys mocked in the top 10 and the other ones in the 20s
They got burned by Luka and Metu. Ignored character for raw talent with size.
That narrative is BS. They may have had interesting TRAITS, but by no means were they proven TALENT. The only talent that burned us for character related issues is Kawhi. The rest is people's hopes projected onto raw prospects that were not all that good to begin with. Talent does not come behind character, let's drop that notion.
Last edited by Ariel; 06-19-2022 at 12:58 PM.
Big thanks timvp! I'll use this as a template when looking into prospective players for us, as I don't know much about these guys. Also appreciate the videos folks are posting. It's an exciting draft for us.
I wonder how much trade interest there is in guys like Josh Richardson/Doug McDermott
OK City is trying to trade up from 12 to get Sharpe. They don't see any problem with him.
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