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I couldn’t agree more.
Pelton is way off on many players. Davis is going inside the top 15 picks.
I couldn’t agree more.
I know we're all basically done with our evaluations, but here's Johnny Davis and Khris Middleton coming out of college. Davis has him statistically beat almost everywhere and they're pretty similar players. Note that Middleton is taller and more of an SF.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...hris-middleton
Dude for real? “Hes more of an SF and taller” Wow the stupidity on Spurs Talk surprises me every day
I think he is the pick if he is still there.
I literally said he's more of an SF and taller. What else do you want to compare? size? How many stuffed rabbits they have? What's your ing point, bro?
Davis goes 7 to Portland if they don’t trade the pick imo. Maybe still does depending on who trades up for that pick. New Orleans at 8 is also a possibility for him. Either way, I think he’s gone by our pick.
Even if Davis were available at 9, this feels like a situation where Spurs fans are excited he’s still available and then we pass on him for Sochan anyways
I would be happy with Davis at 9 but he makes me nervous. But at least he’s a compe or.
My feeling is the same, that the mocks are flipping things a bit and Davis may be rated higher than they expect. But this would mean Mathurin or Daniels (most likely) shake down to 9.
I've had times where I prefer Mathurin, but he has a lot to work on. His catch-and-shoot numbers are actually worse than Sochan's, and he has poor timing on passes and is not an adept ball handler, beyond not being the same defender.
I think Davis is going to be there at 9. I’m pretty confident of this.
So you think Shaedon ends up going top-8 despite the rumors of him slipping a bit? Or someone else. Cause 6-8 is where things are more questionable imo. I got Mathurin, Davis, and Daniels going there. Shaedon is still a possibility. Dieng, Griffin, or Duren could be a surprise pick in there but idk. Who ya got in those slots?
Seems like an awful fit, tbh. Another midling slightly undersized wing that does a little bit of everything but doesn't excell at nothing in particular.
Not in any specific order: Paolo, Jabari, Chet, Ivey, Keegan, Sochan, Dyson, Mathurin, Sharpe. Even if Sharpe falls I think other 8 are off board. Even if I’m wrong one, Sharpe slots into one of top 8 instead of Sochan/Dyson?
He reminds me of a better defensive but more questionable offensive CJ McCollum
Confident Spurs will pick best player available with #9, #20 may be drafted for need. I wouldn’t be shocked if they drafted two guards and sold pick #25.
decent shot that davis is on the board when the spurs pick but it wouldn't shock me if he went before the spurs are up. especially if sharpe and daniels drop.
Last edited by rjv; 06-21-2022 at 09:44 AM.
My pick at 9.
Interesting. What do you see as his role in the NBA; who does he play with in the Spurs rotation? Do you see upside with his shooting efficiency as his usage significantly diminishes from college? Concerns with his athleticism at the next level?
whoa, whoa, whoa you might be interested in size but im not. Stuffed rabbits hmm you lost me.
I’ve posted before why I zeroed in on Davis. I see the Spurs’ immediate needs as follows, and who could be available at 9:
1. Go-to scorer - Davis, Duren, Mathurin, Sharpe, Jaylen Williams
2. Defensive big at 4 - Sochan, Eason, Dieng, Liddell, LaRavia, Minnot
3. Point-of-attack defender - Davis, Dyson
4. On man defense at 5 - Duren, Williams, Kessler, Koloko
Davis checks off 1 and 3. The point-of-attack defender is somewhat neglected in this forum, and posters mostly see the hole in the PF position. But equally important, the Spurs get torched by shifty guards on a nightly basis. Davis is one of the best point-of-attack defender on this draft. While Dyson could be another option, I see Davis intangibles: 100% compe or on both sides of the court, he will dive for 50/50 ball, block, rebound. He’s been compared to Manu in that regard. And he has proven to be the go-to guy and will not shy from shooting as the main option at Wisconsin. He was 38% at 3pt at freshman, but dipped to 30% the following year after his 4 other scorers left and he was forced to carry the team, resulting to taking forceful shots at times. But he remained 80% at the FT. So I’m confident his 3pt percentage would improve with better teammates. The kid is a natural leader. Besides DJ, I don’t see another Spurs who is willing to take the helm, maybe Primo. He is ultra-compe ive and just a coaches dream. I would not be surprised if Pop loves this kid from day 1.
I think it’s easier to address the PF position with the latter pick like Eason, etc. Ideally I would love for them to trade Keldon plus picks (not 9) for Keegan (if possible) or Sochan. Keegan surely addresses needs 1 and 2, go-to scorer and defensive PF. While Sochan is one of the best defensive PF and can cover arguably 1-5, with playmaking upsides but his shooting is suspect.
The 5 can be addressed with a latter pick, or even trade for Myles Turner. If not, we could see if Poeltl is better alomg side a defensive PF.
Again, to me Davis is the better bang for the money, and still allow the flexibility to address the other needs. I’d be thrilled with the line-up of:
DJ, Davis, Devin, Sochan/Eason, Turner
A back court if he and Murray would be fun if he could get a reliable 3pt shot.
Taco Cabana may not approve however.
Are we not expecting vassell to continue to play with murray? I dont know where another wing fits with vassell,and primo needing minutes
The concern I have with Vassell is if he’s going to be a lockdown defender. He is a great help defender, but a tad slow staying in front of a shifty guard. Devin is ideally a SF. He has to fight with Keldon.
Primo is not ready at starter, and also not a lockdown defender.
But Spurs cannot ignore the hole at point-of-attack where likes of Fox, Haliburton, SGA, Ja, even Van Fleet or Dillon Brooks torch the Spurs
Yea, vassell or primo can fit at 3
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