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I mentioned before, as much as I like Keldon, I’d include him on a possible trade (same with Poeltl) if I could land Keegan Murray, or move up the 20/25 to get Sochan as 2nd pick. Keldon is a tweener at PF pisition. And unless he miraculously got faster on lateral speed to cover swifter SF, Keldon is the odd man out. Devin is a more natural fit at SF.
Keegan checks off goto scorer, and defensive PF. So if it takes moving Keldon then so be it.
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Keldon will most likely average 20 PPG next season. I‘m not trading him nor Vassell right now for Keegan Murray. Now if Banchero falls to #4 that would make sense. Interesting, but I don‘t see us going for it.
You can't keep striking out trying to go for homers. Also, whose to say Keegan isn't a homer?
Last edited by DAF86; 06-21-2022 at 12:32 PM.
I’m afraid Keldon will forever be ST’s whipping boy because of his size at PF. Again I would love if he gets slimmer and maybe gets faster at SF because his 3pt is money. AND if Spurs could get a great help defender like Sochan/Eason would be great. But right now he would be best used at 6th man and create havoc off the bench, still averaging 20pts but 6th man position.
Keegan would be a home run but how are the Spurs getting him?
You swing for the home run with your top pick until you get your superstar. The other picks can be used for players of roster to starter caliber.
^ I’d pick the BPA at top pick, then use 20 or 25 at homer. Dieng is a great example who I would hate at 9, but I would be happy to draft at 20/25 with his upsides potentials.
are we really expecting primo to be a superstar?
That's right
That's a horrible strategy. I get the need for a star, and I agree it should be a priority. But not every draft has one, and certainly not at 9. If there is a player with REAL star potential, sure, take him... but if not, simply swinging for the sake of it as if you could turn mud into gold only ensures years of misery. Its much better to pick the best value at your pick, and eventually trade your way up the draft, or into a star. Adding talent is never redundant, even if it's not superstar caliber talent. Swing ONLY IF THERE'S SOMETHING WORTH SWINGING FOR (i.e., NOT the Primos of the world). Or otherwise simply tank FOR ONE SEASON and get it over with, instead of swinging aimlessly at nothing but air.
Last edited by Ariel; 06-21-2022 at 04:04 PM.
Wow this really feels like ‘the draft’ for us considering how it’s shaping up.
As much as I love Keegan, if Ivey was there, you’d have to grab him.
Many have speculated that Ivey could be #1 on some team boards, perhaps the Spurs are one of those teams.
May very well be why DJ trade rumours are popping up too…
Why get Ivey when Davis torched Purdue with 37 points? And Davis has a winning match-up against Ivey.
You base it upon the complete body of work up to this point. The unique physical gifts and unteach-able athleticism that Ivey has.
They’re both considered lottery picks for a reason. It isn’t uncommon for one to get the better of another at times.
Because Ivey has a chance to be an elite nba player...Davis doesn't have that potential...he could be very good but he doesn't have Ivey's ceiling..
On Davis not having that potential.
I already know what I’d get from Davis, while Ivey could be a great bust at 4th pick.
People think Ivey is the second coming of Ja, but could never be. Head-to-head stats, Davis beats Ivey.
I'm thinking the opposite.
The 9 pick is not that good as the top 7 guys are likely off the board then who knows what NO takes, Spurs are choosing from a lower tier level player than the top 7 or 8.
Ivey is better, much stronger taking it to the basket. Ivey has more athleticism.
I already know what I’d get from Davis, while Ivey could be a great bust at 4th pick.
People think Ivey is the second coming of Ja, but could never be. Head-to-head stats, Davis beats Ivey.
Davis still has work to do on his 3 pt. shot.
It will be crazy to trade up for Murray , i don't see the thing. I don't see a superstar here tough his floor could be really good.
The only players i will trade up for or maybe giving a good player are Banchero or Smith but that's it.
I don't see a viable path. If the Kings trade down, it'll probably be to 5-6 and even if the Spurs included Johnson or Vassell with 9 (which I don't think they would), I don't think that would do it.
He'd probably need to be available at 5, with the Pistons staying put and at that point something like Poeltl and 25 to Hornets, 9, 20, Washington Jr. to Pistons, 5 and 15 to Spurs might have a shot.
Ivey is the better prospect. That's why he is going with the 4th pick and Davis is falling outside the top 10.
I already know what I’d get from Davis, while Ivey could be a great bust at 4th pick.
People think Ivey is the second coming of Ja, but could never be. Head-to-head stats, Davis beats Ivey.
Davis has a higher floor, but Ivey‘s ceiling is way higher due to his athleticism. You take Ivey over Davis anytime
I already know what I’d get from Davis, while Ivey could be a great bust at 4th pick.
People think Ivey is the second coming of Ja, but could never be. Head-to-head stats, Davis beats Ivey.
Amazing tautology there. The fun part about 9 is whether someone in your top 8 drop. Well never see the spurs draft board and how close it hews to mocks. This is all fun though.
Detroit wants an established star not Washington and those draft picks.
The Pistons supposedly want Ivey. If he's not available, getting a Grant replacement at the four, a path to and without reaching for Duren at 9 and an extra 1st could hold appeal.
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