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    I’d be all over this in a heart beat, TBH. Cant be worst than the RJ and Carolle signings.

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    Would you do Jakob for Charlotte 14th and 15th pick for Hayward? He got a two year contract 30 million a year.............:

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    Hayward is 32 and due $61.5M over the next 2 seasons…

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    That's two pick territory or eat up some of your own bad salary in return. Which we don't have any.

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    Would you do Jakob for Charlotte 14th and 15th pick for Hayward? He got a two year contract 30 million a year.............:
    It's the 13th and 15th picks but maybe. Hornets are the team after the Spurs that want in on Duren. There's a decent chance he gets passed 10-12. If the Spurs selected someone else and Duren is still there at 13 then I'd consider pulling the trigger. Otherwise no, Not having Jakob or Duren after the dust settles would bring out the pitchforks.

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    I doubt the Hornets trade both 13 and 15 in this draft. They'd have to cough up one and then probably draft capital down the road.

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    Hayward is a PF and potentially worth the gamble, but I would want the Spurs to be able to complete the trade using contracts to preserve their cap space. That could happen if Poeltl, Richardson and some non-min contract are outgoing. OR if the Spurs can get the Hornets to take McDermott, they can just combine him and Jakob to match the salary. However, this assumes Hayward waives his trade-kicker, which he might not do. If he doesn't, you can add $9 Million or so on top of his salary over the two years. That would make acquiring him less desirable. In all, it would be a base-hit kind of move, even if the Spurs got Lavine. If they instead got Sexton, it would probably be a net-neutral off-season given that the Spurs would have to replace/develop a new center. Unlike many scenarios, I don't see a trade that would change this, even with the team having four or five firsts to move.

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    I would swap Hayward and 15 for McDermott.

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    Hayward is a PF and potentially worth the gamble, but I would want the Spurs to be able to complete the trade using contracts to preserve their cap space. That could happen if Poeltl, Richardson and some non-min contract are outgoing. OR if the Spurs can get the Hornets to take McDermott, they can just combine him and Jakob to match the salary. However, this assumes Hayward waives his trade-kicker, which he might not do. If he doesn't, you can add $9 Million or so on top of his salary over the two years. That would make acquiring him less desirable. In all, it would be a base-hit kind of move, even if the Spurs got Lavine. If they instead got Sexton, it would probably be a net-neutral off-season given that the Spurs would have to replace/develop a new center. Unlike many scenarios, I don't see a trade that would change this, even with the team having four or five firsts to move.
    Hayward is absolutely not a PF. He's a small forward. Might bump to 4 in some sets, but he's a small forward.

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    Hayward made the Spurs look like children in 1 game this year.

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    Jesus ,now haywards a pf

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    Jesus ,now haywards a pf
    never change, ST

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    Gordon ing Hayward. Sixty ing million over two seasons. Jesus listen to all of you.

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    The ultimate manifestation of renting out cap space for picks? What else are we gonna do with the cap space?

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    The ultimate manifestation of renting out cap space for picks? What else are we gonna do with the cap space?
    Probably rent out the cap space for picks.

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    I wouldnt be completely against this idea it the spurs would have a lot of work to do with all those damn picks lol Spurs love a good reclamation project tbh

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    Hypothetically if you could pull of Jak + Doug for Hayward + 13 + 15... how far up from 9 do you think you can move up assuming we'll only want to keep two 1st rounders this year. Can 9 + 15 + 25 get you to #5 or #6? Can 13 + 20 get you back into the top 10? Is there a handy "draft value points chart" for the NBA like the NFL has?

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    Gordon ing Hayward. Sixty ing million over two seasons. Jesus listen to all of you.
    Hayward and his contract are god awful, but it's not like they're gonna do anything with their capspace anyway. Might as well get a pick or two and see if you can combine them with 9/20/25 to move into the top 4.

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    Hypothetically if you could pull of Jak + Doug for Hayward + 13 + 15... how far up from 9 do you think you can move up assuming we'll only want to keep two 1st rounders this year. Can 9 + 15 + 25 get you to #5 or #6? Can 13 + 20 get you back into the top 10? Is there a handy "draft value points chart" for the NBA like the NFL has?
    jak is valuable. Why would we do that. He might be our starting C long term.

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    jak is valuable. Why would we do that. He might be our starting C long term.
    Surely this isn’t the first time you've heard the idea of trading Jak. It’s been discussed at length on these boards and there is no reason to hash it out again.
    Last edited by scott; 06-22-2022 at 12:13 AM.

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    If keldon can play the 4 who cares at this point

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    Spurs talk desperate for anything at this point

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    Hypothetically if you could pull of Jak + Doug for Hayward + 13 + 15... how far up from 9 do you think you can move up assuming we'll only want to keep two 1st rounders this year. Can 9 + 15 + 25 get you to #5 or #6? Can 13 + 20 get you back into the top 10? Is there a handy "draft value points chart" for the NBA like the NFL has?
    Good Q.
    I'm gonna say No. Neither team Pistons at 5 or Pacers 6 is gonna trade for 13+20 this draft.

    Pacers especially not after the Kwa Leornard trade.

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    Hayward, 13 and 15 for Poeltl and McD.

    I think Poeltl is worth 1FRP pick 13. And unloading Hayward is another FRP pick 15.

    I’d pick Davis at 9. Sochan at 13. Swap 15, 20 and 25 to get to Duren or Williams.

    DJ, Davis, Hayward, Sochan, Duren/Williams

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    Hornets aren’t trading both 13 & 15… It’d be one or the other, and they’d prob fight like for it to be 15.

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