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    Atlanta FO: Please help us gin up interest in John Collins, please, sir. Say something about an up-and-coming All-Star point guard.

    The rest of the NBA, meanwhile: Jerami Grant is only worth a late first round pick several years from now.

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    My friend, I am not saying SA should be actively doing this, but from a value perspective that is an absolute haul if we are being real.
    Yea,well,you know,thats just,like,your opinion,man

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    Lol he knows that…hes saying I have a good framework
    To me, if we do your trade (and yes I'd do DJ for 4 + 2 future 1sts) then it tells me that the FO is pretty high on Primo regardless of what some here think. I'd assume we'd expedite moving Poeltl too(Cha 13). I'm not sure if we keep KJ or move him somewhere at that point but I'd guess we'd keep him.

    Primo, Tre, TyTy Washington
    Ivey, Vassell
    KJ, McDermott, Porcida
    Dieng, Lindell, KBD
    Duren, Zollins, Landale

    I'm just spitballing...it'd be alot to try and guess out...

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    Theyd hve to be for spurs to make that deal. Okc looking to fleece somebody
    okc likely doing okc things.

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    If you can turn Dejounte into three picks with 2 swaps, Ivey, and whoever you draft BPA at 9? Ill drive Dejounte to the damn airport my own damn self.

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    If you can turn Dejounte into three picks with 2 swaps, Ivey, and whoever you draft BPA at 9? Ill drive Dejounte to the damn airport my own damn self.

    three unprotected and ivey+9 ? Seeya dj

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    The fact he is tweeting and not being passive aggressive means no truth in this.

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    I am going to be absolutely devastated if SA drafts Primo then Dieng at 9. Seriously. I will be floored. But between the team wanting to jump to 8 to guarantee Dieng and Dieng’s agent calling Wright I am prepping for doomsday.
    Thought you said you trusted PATFO on some post above?

    Also were you not one of the folks chastising some on this board for not giving Primo his chance to show out given he's only 19? Also, while he *may be* a stretch at 9, what's your issue / comparison with Dieng and Primo?

    Just trying to see consistency in your argument.

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    If you can turn Dejounte into three picks with 2 swaps, Ivey, and whoever you draft BPA at 9? Ill drive Dejounte to the damn airport my own damn self.
    Ivey sucks

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    The fact he is tweeting and not being passive aggressive means no truth in this.
    Or he realizes that if the Spurs are dumb enough to do this, that he’s better off not being here.

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    three unprotected and ivey+9 ? Seeya dj
    ATL ain’t doing that.

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    Can you imagine trading away Murray for John Collins while a player better than Collins, Jerami Grant, was given away for basically nothing?

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    ATL ain’t doing that.

    Nobody expects them to we arent trading prime kobe

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    Thought you said you trusted PATFO on some post above?

    Also were you not one of the folks chastising some on this board for not giving Primo his chance to show out given he's only 19? Also, while he *may be* a stretch at 9, what's your issue / comparison with Dieng and Primo?

    Just trying to see consistency in your argument.
    Trust can be broken like a spouse that cheats on you. I trust them in player evaluation overall - especially if they are moving up for their guy. But the Primo pick is very questionable. So no, that was not me. He deserves his chance and I said all that matters is that hes good (not that it was a bad value pick) but I hated the pick when it was made due to value. Fine with Primo, not where he was taken though.

    Fine with Dieng. Not at 9.

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    The fact he is tweeting and not being passive aggressive means no truth in this.
    He wants to compete for a championship and He has a history loving on ATL because of the street game that mirrors Seattle Street game. I guarantee Murray would be excited to go there with a star in Trae, much more national exposure for his brand and compete for a championship.

    Getting collins, and several picks and possibly flipping collins as well for moving up or other future picks would be a good deal for the spurs.

    This rumor has plenty of legs on it.

    Especially if the spurs plan on tanking for the generational talent waiting at the top of the draft next year. With a bunch of assets, and a bad record from playing young, they'd have a great shot at Wembanyana.

    Trade makes sense for both sides and Murray. Collins doesn't really have a say in the matter.

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    Spoiler alert: John Collins alone is far short of a Jrue Holiday type return. N.O. got 4 FRPs, and a couple of pick swaps for Jrue. This trade ain’t happening.
    I think NO only got two FRPs (not 4), two pick swaps, Stephen Adams and Eric Bledsoe.

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    yes and even Woj said they want to move him before or during the draft. His price should be a lot lower than expected. Also with Portland getting Grant it's one less suitor. Spurs have to make an offer.
    I think Collins is empty calories but maybe that's just because of where he is and how he plays but I certainly wouldn't go overboard in any offer.

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    He wants to compete for a championship and He has a history loving on ATL because of the street game that mirrors Seattle Street game. I guarantee Murray would be excited to go there with a star in Trae, much more national exposure for his brand and compete for a championship.

    Getting collins, and several picks and possibly flipping collins as well for moving up or other future picks would be a good deal for the spurs.

    This rumor has plenty of legs on it.

    Especially if the spurs plan on tanking for the generational talent waiting at the top of the draft next year. With a bunch of assets, and a bad record from playing young, they'd have a great shot at Wembanyana.

    Trade makes sense for both sides and Murray. Collins doesn't really have a say in the matter.
    So the Spurs do this because Dejounte likes street ball and it makes the team so bad they might maybe get a twenty-four percent chance to draft a really tall skinny French guy?

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    ... You do realize that interviewing a person and having them leak information to you are different things, right?

    EDIT: I found Fischer's book on Audible and used one of my precious credits on it. Folks are saying it's a very good book with a horrible narrator, but hopefully I can get through it. The preview didn't seem like someone who had sources, though, as much as someone who's speculating and making educated guesses based on the past. Maybe he does give real insight later on, but it feels like it's going to be a guy "telling a story" based on info we've been debating about for years in forums. A review said it was well-researched, and I agree there. That's not the same thing as having sources. I'll let you know how it is if you haven't read it.
    Don't bother the Hawk beat writer already confirmed it.

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    If Spurs were going to trade Keldon+9 to Kings for 4, why would they trade Dejounte to Hawks for that type of package when they could just trade Dejounte for 4?

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    Can you imagine trading away Murray for John Collins while a player better than Collins, Jerami Grant, was given away for basically nothing?
    Grant is not better than Collins. There's a reason he was given away dude

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    I think NO only got two FRPs (not 4), two pick swaps, Stephen Adams and Eric Bledsoe.
    This is a clipping from Jrue’s bbref page transaction section. The trade was massive, and the pick swaps were further down the page. It mentions further down that the picks didn’t all originate in MIL.

    the Milwaukee Bucks traded Eric Bledsoe, a 2024 1st round draft pick, a 2025 1st round draft pick, a 2026 1st round draft pick and a 2027 1st round draft pick to the New Orleans Pelicans;

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    It’s like Alvin Robertson for Terry mings all over again

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    I think Collins is more salary filler than anything. It’s the picks the spurs would be trading for. 3 1st rounders and a couple swaps? Maybe along with keldon+9 for Ivey?

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