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    Tre almost averaged triple-doubles everytime he starts. I’m not saying DJ is not a good rebounder, defender. But he is closer to a system-player in San Antonio offense imo. Have you seen him bounce-pass on traffic? Make a wrap-around pass on traffic, throw a lob amidst crowd like CP0 and Trae do? Nope. DJ is not a true point guard and NOT indispensable at that position. So it wouldn’t help him dramatically with a better target. Sure he will be open more. DJ will be a 2nd or 3rd option. and it will help him getting open, not being option.
    I see him make bounce passes all the damn time because Poeltl needs it at his waist

    Let's see Trae Young try to throw lobs to the Spurs bigs, it ain't happening

    Lob in a crowd for Dejounte? For who? Watch Derrick season highlights in Boston, lobs in crowds galore, that didn't happen in SA

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    I see him make bounce passes all the damn time because Poeltl needs it at his waist

    Let's see Trae Young try to throw lobs to the Spurs bigs, it ain't happening

    Lob in a crowd for Dejounte? For who? Watch Derrick season highlights in Boston, lobs in crowds galore, that didn't happen in SA
    Bruh DJ is not a true PG. He might be passing assists created by pick and roll (that includes the bounce passes that you mean), but you don’t see him bounce passing on traffic like Harden, having court vision like the LaMelo. I doubt Collins joing the Spurs he’d get a lob pass from DJ, maybe from Tre Jones yeah. If you can’t distinguish a true point guard to what DJ does, then I can’t help you.

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    I see him make bounce passes all the damn time because Poeltl needs it at his waist

    Let's see Trae Young try to throw lobs to the Spurs bigs, it ain't happening

    Lob in a crowd for Dejounte? For who? Watch Derrick season highlights in Boston, lobs in crowds galore, that didn't happen in SA


    Bruh DJ is not a true PG. He might be passing assists created by pick and roll (that includes the bounce passes that you mean), but you don’t see him bounce passing on traffic like Harden, having court vision like Melo. I doubt Collins joing the Spurs he’d get a lob pass from DJ, maybe from Tre Jones yeah. If you can’t distinguish a true point guard to what DJ does, then I can’t help you.

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    Bruh DJ is not a true PG. He might be passing assists created by pick and roll (that includes the bounce passes that you mean), but you don’t see him bounce passing on traffic like Harden, having court vision like the LaMelo. I doubt Collins joing the Spurs he’d get a lob pass from DJ, maybe from Tre Jones yeah. If you can’t distinguish a true point guard to what DJ does, then I can’t help you.

    It’s somewhere in between but lets not forget KBD dropped 30 points once and you proclaimed him the next Danny Green. You’ve had rediculous assertions on guys like Landale also.

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    It’s never 25, 50, or 75 with john B

    this dude goes 100 on all his takes

    He’s like a tier below Atl Spur

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    it's funny that people here think DJ can't throw a lob pass when he did that as a rookie

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    Bruh DJ is not a true PG. He might be passing assists created by pick and roll (that includes the bounce passes that you mean), but you don’t see him bounce passing on traffic like Harden, having court vision like Melo. I doubt Collins joing the Spurs he’d get a lob pass from DJ, maybe from Tre Jones yeah. If you can’t distinguish a true point guard to what DJ does, then I can’t help you.
    He's not the best at every pass, I've posted before at how Primo might be the best in the team already at delivering over the top with touch, and that LMA liked playing with White more because he was better feeding the post compared to young Dejounte.

    But if you can't see how he's improved and what can still improve, then that's that

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    Bruh DJ is not a true PG. He might be passing assists created by pick and roll (that includes the bounce passes that you mean), but you don’t see him bounce passing on traffic like Harden, having court vision like the LaMelo. I doubt Collins joing the Spurs he’d get a lob pass from DJ, maybe from Tre Jones yeah. If you can’t distinguish a true point guard to what DJ does, then I can’t help you.
    It’s somewhere in between but let’s not forget KBD dropped 30 points once and you proclaimed him the next Danny Green. You’ve had ridiculous assertions on guys like Landale and choose D White over DJ because DJ got in a verbal altercation with Pop.

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    It’s never 25, 50, or 75 with john B

    this dude goes 100 on all his takes

    He’s like a tier below Atl Spur
    John B’s alter ego

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    Lol how I touch a wrong chord with DJ’s fans.

    Hey I’m not hating on DJ. But just imo DJ is NOT indispensable as a starting PG of the team. For lack of a better word, DJ is close to a “system player” when it comes to setting assist. As mentioned, Tre gets almost double-triple when he starts. Primo with better vision, I don’t doubt will be better as soon as he tighten his handles. As many of you remember, DJ didn’t have the craftiest handles when he first joined. That vision of Beverly bullying him at mid-court comes to mind.

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    The Spurs have to come down on their ridiculos trade demands if they are serious in making a trade or else they'll be rolling out the same team as last year with a couple of role player rookies added.

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    The Spurs have to come down on their ridiculos trade demands if they are serious in making a trade or else they'll be rolling out the same team as last year with a couple of role player rookies added.
    probably exactly what will happen,tbh. I dont mind them trying to sell high on murray but they aren't getting what they want for poodle power

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    The Spurs have to come down on their ridiculos trade demands if they are serious in making a trade or else they'll be rolling out the same team as last year with a couple of role player rookies added.
    Everyone on the roster is tradeable but I want no part of Murray for Collins.

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    The Spurs have to come down on their ridiculos trade demands if they are serious in making a trade or else they'll be rolling out the same team as last year with a couple of role player rookies added.
    They are just trying to see if any team actually bites, there are always a few dumb teams out there. But you're right. the first demands are usually quite ridiculous. Its an old negotiating ploy, something like a Jedi mind trick. It basically only fools the stupid.

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    The Spurs have to come down on their ridiculos trade demands if they are serious in making a trade or else they'll be rolling out the same team as last year with a couple of role player rookies added.
    No they don’t. This forum way over values potential against production. If they’re going to move a guy coming off a career all star year then that potential needs to come in multiple picks. We have little reason to make a move now unless it’s clearly to our benefit. Murray isn’t old or on an expiring contract. Id rather see the draft and FA shake out before I start wanting to come off any demands.

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    The Spurs have to come down on their ridiculos trade demands if they are serious in making a trade or else they'll be rolling out the same team as last year with a couple of role player rookies added.
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    <br>They are just trying to see if any team actually bites, there are always a few dumb teams out there.&nbsp; But you're right. the first demands are usually quite ridiculous.&nbsp; Its an old negotiating ploy, something like a Jedi mind trick.&nbsp; It basically only fools the stupid.

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    Everyone on the roster is tradeable but I want no part of Murray for Collins.
    That was a three team trade. I'm not high on Collins but I'd move Murray for Ivey.

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    <br>They are just trying to see if any team actually bites, there are always a few dumb teams out there. But you're right. the first demands are usually quite ridiculous. Its an old negotiating ploy, something like a Jedi mind trick. It basically only fools the stupid.
    They will be missing out as other teams will be selling off realistic offers and the Spurs will miss out because they are sending out ridiculous demands.

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    No they don’t. This forum way over values potential against production. If they’re going to move a guy coming off a career all star year then that potential needs to come in multiple picks. We have little reason to make a move now unless it’s clearly to our benefit. Murray isn’t old or on an expiring contract. Id rather see the draft and FA shake out before I start wanting to come off any demands.
    Then you're happy putting out the same team with a couple of draft picks added.

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    Lol how I touch a wrong chord with DJ’s fans.

    Hey I’m not hating on DJ. But just imo DJ is NOT indispensable as a starting PG of the team. For lack of a better word, DJ is close to a “system player” when it comes to setting assist. As mentioned, Tre gets almost double-triple when he starts. Primo with better vision, I don’t doubt will be better as soon as he tighten his handles. As many of you remember, DJ didn’t have the craftiest handles when he first joined. That vision of Beverly bullying him at mid-court comes to mind.
    I'm not a Dejounte Stan, I wanted him gone a couple of preseasons ago, but he keeps improving. I wanted Payton II over him in the draft.

    But I don't see Primo as any more of a 'true' point guard because he can't get to the rim with his slow speed and zero explosion. He can't get a step on gleague players without a screen. He'll be like Lonzo, a secondary connector and transition passer.

    And if the trade is for #4 to take Ivey, well he's not more of pg than Dejounte either, he's just years behind where Dejounte is now.

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    No they don’t. This forum way over values potential against production. If they’re going to move a guy coming off a career all star year then that potential needs to come in multiple picks. We have little reason to make a move now unless it’s clearly to our benefit. Murray isn’t old or on an expiring contract. Id rather see the draft and FA shake out before I start wanting to come off any demands.
    That's not how trades work where you clearly get over on the other team.

    Trades have to benefit both teams and if you're only looking for trades where you clearly make better in the deal then you won't be trading anyone.

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    That's not how trades work where you clearly get over on the other team.

    Trades have to benefit both teams and if you're only looking for trades where you clearly make better in the deal then you won't be trading anyone.
    You're probably a horrible negotiator.

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    That's not how trades work where you clearly get over on the other team.

    Trades have to benefit both teams and if you're only looking for trades where you clearly make better in the deal then you won't be trading anyone.
    You're probably a horrible negotiator.

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    Then you're happy putting out the same team with a couple of draft picks added.
    Don’t be a ing ahole. A true sign of someone’s inability to defend their comments is to put words in someone’s mouth.

    It’s a worthwhile debate but not if you’re going to resort to being a child.

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