you'll be thinking about me until the end of the offseason?
i don't think about you at all.
and idc if my vote was wrong, i never said i guaranteed it. if you don't think this will be an issue going forward then that's on you.
and
the spurs only have two more wins than the thunderbut the thunder have seven 1st round draft picks in the two next drafts.
the thunder probably will move SGA at some point because he'll want to not be part of the process anymore. same with dejounte. but okc will be in MUCH better place than the spurs.
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Again, not going to keep doing this. This isn't true, and you repeating it to twist what I said doesn't make it true. Simmons got his max because he earned it. Not every player who qualifies for the Rose-max gets it. It is a special designation that has to be negotiated by the player's agent. There's no shame in not knowing this minutia of the CBA, but you and I both know you're going to pretend like you didn't read this at the first opportunity and still act like Simmons got his contract independent of his performance.
No. Advanced stats don't care how good the team is in an absolute sense. They were specially designed to factor that out. You're confusing the direction of potential causation. Players on good teams don't have good stats because they're on a good team. Teams with good players on them are good because the players are good, and the stats capture that. If anything, many stats may overrate players on bad teams, because their benches can usually keep up decent production. If Murray has a better plus-minus than Simmons, there's a very good possibility that it's because the Spurs lack the talent to compensate for Murray being on the bench while the Sixers can field such talent. Also, good players often generate a larger percentage of the total stats on a bad team than they do on good teams, since more players are capable of generating those stats. It's possible that Murray's advanced stats are seeing a bump in this manner now that he doesn't have Mills subbing in for him or DeRozan to share stats with.Advanced stats are helped by being on a good team. They were designed not to do this but the team they play on does stilll effect most advanced stats. I player on a good team will tend to have better offense and defense numbers just because the team is better. basketball is still a team game so the team does effect them.
In this scenario, the height was the only difference, so there isn't a speed or agility advantage for the smaller guy. Height, in and of itself is huge in the NBA. A taller guy can both play in bigger positions because he can match up with taller guys and he can use his size more on offense. The two players might both have the same skills and motions, but the taller players will have a larger shooting window and thus will likely make more shots. The difference between a 6-5 and 6-9 guy is the difference between a star two-guard and an MVP PF.If I had two people that played the same and one was taller wouldnt care. as if they are the execpt same then they could switch in for one another. now I understand the point your trying to make. but if one is taller is the other faster, more agile? but if the excat same other then heights would not care as results are the same.
Who is they? Do you mean that the Spurs would be willing to trade Murray for Simmons? We have no idea if that's something either side would want. Certainly, you'll see a lot of fans of other teams who still think Simmons is worth way more than Murray. We don't know that Morey would want DJM at all, even though I firmly believe Pop wouldn't allow Murray to be dealt regardless. That same idea can apply to any package. We don't know what Morey would actually take. All we can do is speculate based off what he said, and he said he wanted a franchise player in return. Could he be lying? Yes. Could he change his mind? Also yes. But we don't know if those things are true.more then what? well most reports have been they are not willing to trade a certain player for him. if he was as good as you imply people would give up a far lessvaluable player for him but they cant even seem to get that. Sacramento might be changing their tune but untill the trade is made he is not worth the players that they are trying to get.
Lol, you'd wish to have someone thinking about you at any time, much less throughout a season. Go get a girl young fella, this ain't it.
Of course you don't care to be wrong, look at the you post. I thought that part was already quite clear, gimme something else
Ah, how I love the conflation of picks to success. Hit me up when the Thunder win that 'ship, dale? Don't forget to hmu when Boston finally manages to turn those Nets picks into a ring, too, while you're at it. Or literally every other instance in the history of the NBA where a team had a lot of picks and squandered them. Of course, understanding the difficulty of turning those picks into actual, championship-level production is beyond you, which is why you make these stupid posts in the first place.and
the spurs only have two more wins than the thunder
the thunder probably will move SGA at some point because he'll want to not be part of the process anymore. same with dejounte. but okc will be in MUCH better place than the spurs.
But oh well, I'm sure Dejounte will be kickin' and screamin' to get off these Process Spurs anytime, bud.
I copied what you put. If it wasnt true why did you say it? I agree that most players drafted high will get a max contact unless they are pretty bad. his max happened to be higher because he made the all star team.
Advanced stats does make a difference on which team you played on. look at forbes did he all of a sudden get good when he went to Milwuake? and then magically drop back down when he moved here? no he played on a better team so his advanced stats were better.
I understand what you are tying to say but if height is the only difference then they can guard the same players they can do the same things on offense and defense. I would not care who is taller. You go on to say that taller players can match up with bigger players which in general is true. but if everything else is the same they match up the same against each player.
They is nba teams. Noone has been willing to even come close to what they are wanting.
jerami grant went to detroit to be the guy and is already tired of being there.
how much losing does dejounte want to keep being apart of?
Detroit wasn’t the team that drafted him. I think it’s different. Murray was groomed by the Spurs coaches and trainers. He knows it is a rebuilding team but something is on play to get him help, with what’s going on collecting assets, big caps in the Summer to afford hopefully a caliber player. In the meantime, he has the key to get all the shots that he wants, and even averaging almost a triple-double. I think he’ll test the market but evetually sign his max with Spurs, hopefully by then Spurs are a more compe ive team. I think they are on the right path.
Grant went to Det to put up numbers to get a thobias Harris like deal on his next contract
I don't think you understand Dejounte wants to be the guy. He's in that stage of his career where wants to get his numbers and the Spurs have given him the keys to the car to do that. Dejounte knows he's not going to get that chance to get his numbers on another team like he's currently doing with the Spurs. He's 25 right now and won't be an FA until 2024. There is a chance he could leave as a FA but you have to ask yourself which team in this league can Dejounte be the number 1 guy? He doesn't strike me as a guy who wants to be number 2.
based on the amount of poll replies, i guess the majority response is "this poll sucks".
I do think if the team continues on the tank path for next season and so on, (meaning that they don't get lucky drafting a guy with star potential that can start helping with the win column) he will eventually get tired of losing and will want to get traded somewhere.
He has stated that the triple doubles don't mean anything to him if he's not winning games. I also remember him posting cringe emojis when the Spurs drafted Primo, presumably because he knew nothing about him and he was not who he was hoping the Spurs would get... but also the kid is so young, that he'd need years to be a difference maker, if he turns into one.
homie wants out.
Jake Fischer saying DJ & Trae Young have "mutual interest playing with each other."
Of course he wants Atl, lol. Spurs evidently view Primo as his replacement for whatever deranged reason. I'm sure he does want to go.
having interest to play with Trae in ATL and wanting to go are 2 different things
i’m sure he’s more interested in being on a team that could win a round in the playoffs.
everyone trashed this thread
the spurs wouldn't entertain trading DJ unless he wanted them to.
made a thread about derrick white getting traded the past season: it happens.
made a thread saying dejounte murray would be traded this offseason: it happens.
no one calling this thread dumb anymore
Now you need to make one about Poetl being traded.
Bro can we get a Doug thread please?
Pop one also. I’d take a heavily protected FRP from Golden State.
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