Woj: Murray for Gallinari and multiple 1sts

[vy65]

Diversity Hire

[DesignatedT]

Ehh. Murray isn't that great. Wish the return wasn't so delayed, but the Spurs obviously weren't interested in MAXING him out after the season and wanted to get ahead of it for the first time (something numerous posters have criticized them for not doing in similar situations). Saying that, the Spurs could literally sign a couple good free agents this summer and be right back into the 7-10 seed mix if they wanted to (not saying they should), but they could. They aren't losing some irreplaceable star.

[Excessive Egotist]

I like this trade for the Spurs. I think they're the obvious winners.

1) We can lose for awhile. 2) No protections in the out years is great. I'd expect Klutch to have put in trade demands for both DJ and Trae by '25. 3) We'll convert Gallo into another first. 4) We'll rent our space, maybe to Charlotte in exchange for an asset and lifting the '23 pick protection. It's a win. I'm pretty confident Charlotte is not making the playoffs now.

[Dex]

I hate trading the kid but I honestly don't understand what people think you're gonna get when you trade a player like DJM I'd you want picks. You have to get lucky for those picks to be in the lottery. Always weird seeing the reactions here.

Those who have wanted a tank have their wish. Hope primo is good.

Exactly this. I'm not sure what kind of return people were expecting for a fringe All-Star that will probably want a huge contract in two years.

Spurs have like 10 FRPs in their stash now, have a bunch of young and rising players, have cap space and cap maneuverability...

This is what tanking looks like if you do it right. If we land a top 3 pick next year, BOOM.

Now cross your fingers and hope Atlanta implodes (we've seen crazier things happen, look at the Nets and Lakers this year)

[stnick2261]

If Charlotte doesn't make the playoffs this year, what happens to the pick? Does it convey in future years?

[Dex]

I hate trading the kid but I honestly don't understand what people think you're gonna get when you trade a player like DJM I'd you want picks. You have to get lucky for those picks to be in the lottery. Always weird seeing the reactions here.

Those who have wanted a tank have their wish. Hope primo is good.

Exactly this. I'm not sure what kind of return people were expecting for a fringe All-Star that will probably want a huge contract in two years.

Spurs have like 10 FRPs in their stash now, have a bunch of young and rising players, have cap space and cap maneuverability...

This is what tanking looks like if you do it right. If we land a top 3 pick next year, BOOM.

Now cross your fingers and hope Atlanta implodes (we've seen crazier things happen, look at the Nets and Lakers this year)

[lmbebo]

Gallo isn't becoming another first. Maybe a 2nd or 2 or more likely bought out

[timtonymanu]

The team wasn’t going anywhere with Murray as the star player anyway. We won’t be a contender for the ty play-in this year. This is good.

[duncan2150]

You analyze the trade in two parts :

The deal appears bad, without at least a good young player like Okongwu. Picks in 25 and 27 could be interesting but you never knows so it's bad imo.

The other part is that you go full rebuild and maybe you could have your FP next year. Tough nothing is sure i could be ok with that.

[mo7888]

I like the concept, but the execution was lacking. It's possible they just traded a player they spent a half decade helping become a complementary/fringe star for no significant asset.

Strictly regular season: Celtics, Bucks, Heat, 76ers, Nets, Raptors are solid to better bets to have superior records. Only the Celtics and Bucks are virtual locks though presuming relative health.

I'd say that Boston, Milwaukee, Miami, Philly, Toronto, Brooklyn, Chicago, and Cleveland are all ahead of Atlanta right now. Washington, Atlanta, and Charlotte will fight it out for the 9 and 10 spots. So I'd really have liked to see us having gotten the Atlanta pick in 2023.

That said, I've gotta note that the same people whining about getting 2 unprotected 1st's and and unprotected swap in this deal are the same people that said Atlanta would never give us a single unprotected 1st.

This was a good trade and gives us good options going forward.

[Seventyniner]

Turning this team into the Thunder can't be the way Pop wanted to go out.

At least we have an idea of the direction the Spurs will go in free agency. More and more and more picks for cap space rentals imo. See if they can get a team to bite on a late 1st for McDermott (unlikely) or Gallinari at the trade deadline (more plausible because his contract is expiring).

Do we know how much of Gallinari's salary got guaranteed? It wouldn't have to necessarily be all of it since he made more than Murray, but I guess he can be trade ballast or a slightly positive asset to a contender?

[Killakobe81]

Y’all overrated Murray this is a good deal tbh.
Basically you hit a Jrue Holiday package for a Jess proven player.kudos to layoffs solid draft smart trade.

[spurraider21]

If Charlotte doesn't make the playoffs this year, what happens to the pick? Does it convey in future years?

its top 16 protected in 2023, top 14 protected in 2024, top 14 protected in 2025. if it doesnt convey by then, it becomes 2 second round picks

[duncan2150]

The team wasn’t going anywhere with Murray as the star player anyway. We won’t be a contender for the ty play-in this year. This is good.

Ok with you but it's not a reason to have a bad return in the deal.

[Mr. Body]

No ing clue what this franchise is trying to do. They had a great draft, but why would I follow any of the players when they'll just turn around and launch them into the distance for a few picks once they get good? No wonder other teams are trying to figure out what the is going on.

[Uriel]

I agree with the general sentiment that this is not a great trade. But I can see the front office's rationale for doing it: they're going all-in on the Wembayana sweepstakes.

[-21-]

im pretty sure the knicks or some other team couldve coughed up a more enticing offer had they waited but this trade makes sense when u consider the FO probably wanted to do right by murray and send him to his ideal destination

[gdquinn]

I am more concern about the Hornets pick since it is well protected. 2023 - Top 16, 2024 - Top 14, 2025 - Top 14. If pick is protected, then it will be 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick. I know the Hornets aren't great team at this moment. Worst case scenario is we might get 2 2nd round picks.

[widowmaker]

Shoot that might mean that guys like KJ and Vassell have no loyalty to the Spurs next year around this time next year.

[Isitjustme?]

Dang, and Primo sucked so bad last year. Tried drinking the Kool Aid on him but couldnt despite having some of the best I know try to sell me on him plus rewatching him play

[jjspur]

You know the spurs could have traded him almost anywhere and gotten a better return than 3 so so picks and the corpse of Galinari. Gallo will probably be waived anyway. There is also no guarantee that even if the spurs got a good draft pick that they would select the bast available player. They don't have the best drafting history.

It was probably about money and I'm pretty sure the spurs being a small market just didn't want to pay DJM 40 million in 2 years (spoiler...he isn't worth it). He wasn't my favorite player but the spurs could have gotten a decent player at the very least.

This was a bad trade over all. Atlanta's front office did a Jedi mind trick on Pop and the spurs front office. Sure the spurs got picks, but this next year will be real real bad. I never thought the spurs would resort to tanking but I guess I was wrong.

[poopbox]

These bas s really did it

[jjspur]

You know the spurs could have traded him almost anywhere and gotten a better return than 3 so so picks and the corpse of Galinari. Gallo will probably be waived anyway. There is also no guarantee that even if the spurs got a good draft pick that they would select the bast available player. They don't have the best drafting history.

It was probably about money and I'm pretty sure the spurs being a small market just didn't want to pay DJM 40 million in 2 years (spoiler. alert ..he isn't worth it). He wasn't my favorite player but the spurs could have gotten a decent player at the very least.

This was a bad trade over all. Atlanta's front office did a Jedi mind trick on Pop and the spurs front office. Sure the spurs got picks, but this next year will be real real bad. I never thought the spurs would resort to tanking but I guess I was wrong.

[Leetonidas]

I am more concern about the Hornets pick since it is well protected. 2023 - Top 16, 2024 - Top 14, 2025 - Top 14. If pick is protected, then it will be 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick. I know the Hornets aren't great team at this moment. Worst case scenario is we might get 2 2nd round picks.

You waited 22 years to make this post? :

[Rummpd]

Incompetent Front Office x 5 years nothing to see here. Bad drafts, bad non trades, now this pathetic dump of best player on team for trash. Fire someone!