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    Now trade Dougie, Richardson, and Jakob, and let Lonnie go

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    Now trade Dougie, Richardson, and Jakob, and let Lonnie go
    More likely to extend all them. They are good boys. Culture guys.

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    Brian Windhorst: Dejounte Murray wasn't going to sign extension with San Antonio


    However, ESPN’s Brian Windhorst reported that the Spurs decided to part ways with Murray because it was inevitable that they’d lose the 25-year-old. “He and his agent, Rich Paul, made it known that he was not going to extend his contract with the Spurs this summer,” Windhorst said on The Hoop Collective podcast. – via Doric Sam @ Bleacher Report
    By signing his bargain deal, there was never going to be an extension. It would have cost him a ton of money, because it would have been based on that bargain deal, not his potential max. If they wanted to pay him that, he probably would have stayed, and gone into free agency, getting a new contract instead of signing an extension.

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    Lol, who's making stupid, emotional statements?
    You’re on a roll, aren’t you? Breathe.

    You think the GM who just traded DJM yesterday is operating in the same manner as before? This feels totally different, which is why you’re getting so upset about this trade.

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    Now trade Dougie, Richardson, and Jakob, and let Lonnie go

    Might as well but they wont.

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    As usual media misleading fans who aren’t in tune to understand what really is going on.

    The value of Dejounte’s eligable extension was 3yrs/70mm.

    He is worth closer to 30mm currently. Why would he sign an extension? Klutch was spot on advising his client not to sign that. That doesn’t preclude the Spurs from being able to retain DJ at market value in 2024 when he enters free agency.

    The Sours obviously wanted DJ in a discount deal because “it’s the Spurs way”

    Such bull . You finally get an AS level player who wants to be here and you cheap out. This wasn’t about tanking for VW it was about the Spurs being cheap.

    Meanwhile coach Pop makes insane money for a coach to lose games.
    Windhorst is full of it...the fact is if DJ was with the Lakers he wouldn't have signed an extension and given up all that money....thats just own hanging fruit for him to on us in front of casuals who don't know any better...

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    Windhorst is full of it...the fact is if DJ was with the Lakers he wouldn't have signed an extension and given up all that money....thats just own hanging fruit for him to on us in front of casuals who don't know any better...
    It’s true but playing devil’s advocate PATFO don’t do themselves any favours with the media either. If’s iften derserving they get no attention or on when they do.

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    We are not trading Keldon lol

    Just wait till this time next year. They will ask for 4 first round picks but only get 1 late first rounder and 2 2nd rounders and a corpse.

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    I may be completely wrong, however, doesn't the rule state that he could be extended until the day before the season begins (third anniversary after extension) - regardless of the exact date the new season would begin. This is how I understand it, at least the spirit of the rule. Thus, Murray could have theoretically been extended in the last moment, just before the 2022/23 season.
    Hmmm... I did see this footnote:

    2If more than one season remains on a previously extended contract when a new extension is signed, then the extension can only be signed from the end of the July Moratorium to the last day of the offseason. If a previous extension was signed after October 1 but before the start of the regular season, then its anniversary is considered to be October 1.
    Feels like those might be two different footnotes smashed into one entry. If that applies to all extensions and not just all extensions that were made with more than one season remaining on the previous contract, that would color things a bit differently. I didn't see anything to suggest that an renegotiation/extension also has that understanding of the term anniversary. If it doesn't, then it's basically the same thing, since an extension without a renegotiation was an obvious non-starter. Renegotiations don't have the same timing window as extensions (they can go into the season), but I think once an extension was signed, it would reset the clock on his deal. My original plan to use cap space to frontload his next deal was moot, at least this off-season. I'd be shocked if the Spurs had tried to get Murray to take an extension without the substantial pay raise. If they did, Klutch was right to tell them no. If they didn't, then Klutch telling them they weren't going to let Murray extend now still comes off as needlessly antagonistic.

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    What happens to the Hornets pick if they land below 16

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    Just wait till this time next year. They will ask for 4 first round picks but only get 1 late first rounder and 2 2nd rounders and a corpse.
    Keldon absolutely should be on the table but they need to extend him now and see how he develops as the #1 guy first. If he hasn’t added to his game move him. Rinse and repeat.

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    What happens to the Hornets pick if they land below 16
    https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/dr...rafts/detailed

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    Keldon absolutely should be on the table but they need to extend him now and see how he develops as the #1 guy first. If he hasn’t added to his game move him. Rinse and repeat.

    What for? Even if he breaks out similar to DJ he’ll still end up like DJ getting traded for a bunch of crap for the sake of trying to strike gold in the late rounds of the draft. The Spurs do not know how to tank the closest they will get next year will be around 5-6.

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    What for? Even if he breaks out similar to DJ he’ll still end up like DJ getting traded for a bunch of crap for the sake of trying to strike gold in the late rounds of the draft. The Spurs do not know how to tank the closest they will get next year will be around 5-6.
    5/6 coulda landed is Ivey or Mathurin thats not a bad thing

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    You’re on a roll, aren’t you? Breathe.

    You think the GM who just traded DJM yesterday is operating in the same manner as before? This feels totally different, which is why you’re getting so upset about this trade.
    Lol, doing things different isn't automatically a good thing. Driving yourself to work with your eyes closed isn't a great idea just because it's different. There's a reason other teams' execs are puzzled why they'd do this and it's not because different is automatically a great thing.

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    I'm not talking about Aldridge.

    Finley was a role player on the Spurs and not a significant player. He didn't get the minutes on the spurs he was getting in Dallas as he was just a role player by the time he came to the spurs.
    Not saying he was worthless but not as good as he was in Dallas.

    Like I said he was on the decline as a player.
    Supporting Rascal's point, IIRC, the reason Finley was a FA was that Dallas had cut his contract as part of some amnesty thing. He'd been getting quite a bit more than what he got with the Spurs, and they figured his play wasn't worth the money... We were paying him ~$3M annually, less than the MLE, Dallas was still on the hook for~$16M annually (but it didn't count against their cap after the amnesty).

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    Rich Paul might be as big of a cancer at Kyrie

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    Lol, doing things different isn't automatically a good thing. Driving yourself to work with your eyes closed isn't a great idea just because it's different. There's a reason other teams' execs are puzzled why they'd do this and it's not because different is automatically a great thing.
    I would say they are finally embracing the rebuild, which is puzzling that they are doing it now and not earlier but I’m ok with finally committing to it. It’s not perfect. And since nephew detonated the franchise everything has felt off.

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    5/6 coulda landed is Ivey or Mathurin thats not a bad thing
    We’ll see so far I don’t think those are franchise players.

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    Rich Paul might be as big of a cancer at Kyrie
    Please elaborate…..

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    If the market allows me to make 10mil plus more a year, why wouldn’t I?

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    And play in a bigger market / play for a contender.

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    What happens to the Hornets pick if they land below 16
    If it's 16 or better it turns into a top 14 protected 2024 pick, then a top 13 protected 2025, and then two worthless seconds after that.

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    Rich Paul might be as big of a cancer at Kyrie
    I disagree. His job is to satisfy his clients. For the most part that means getting them paid, and for some clients also being in a position to win. DJ would have been selling himself short if he took an extension at what he was eligible for. If PATFO even approached the negotiation with that as a starting point they made their bed. Now sleep - Coach Pop first.

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    And play in a bigger market / play for a contender.

    and free tarot card reading from ATL’s finest. JK bro.

    This trade has me agreeing with both yourself and John B …Crazy!

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