Ultimately, the Dejounte Murray Trade was a Deal the Spurs Had to Accept

[Atl Spur]

Josh said this team will have many ball handlers who attack……Ben might be coming��

[timvp]

Yikes, Dejounte's value would have plummeted the second KD asked for a trade. Close call, tbh.

[Mugen]

Yikes, Dejounte's value would have plummeted the second KD asked for a trade. Close call, tbh.

This. The Hawks would have rerouted those assets to go all in on a KD tbh.

[KingKev]

Two (potentially three) unprotected picks via the Atlanta Freakin' Hawks. We're really going to pencil in those picks to be in the 20s when the first one isn't for three years? Dooming Spurs fans suddenly acting like the Hawks acquired prime Duncan.

I mean, if you were to make a list of organizations that you'd want to acquire unprotected first rounders from that don't convey for three years, the Hawks would be somewhere near the top of that list, IMO.

You know who else would be at the top LJ? The Spurs

[timvp]

You know who else would be at the top LJ? The Spurs

Yeah, that's the point.

[KingKev]

Yeah, that's the point.

I meant the last 2-3 years but touche.

[RC_Drunkford]

[spurs10]

I like knowing our direction and agree our chances to ever be a contender in the next decade are improved.

[XDT76]

Because there are way more max contracts than second bananas on championship contender teams.

If you are not contending and offer a player max contract, that is almost a sure way to ensure your team being ty.

[timvp]

Spurs say Dejounte Murray deal was one they couldn’t refuse

expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-say-Dejounte-Murray-deal-was-one-they-17277906.php

Inside the gym, assistant Mitch Johnson put the Spurs’ Summer League squad through its paces.

Head coach Gregg Popovich poked his head in to watch. R.C. Buford, the organization’s chief executive officer, wandered through while casually munching on a banana.

Mugen

[slick'81]

So so the hawks would of opted for kd instead?

[Mugen]

I can't wait to see what kind of RC is going be snacking on this Summer League tbh.

[Mugen]

So so the hawks would of opted for kd instead?

Yeah, I'd think so

[slick'81]

Yeah, I'd think so

Assuming kd was down for that, makes sense

[poopbox]

Yikes, Dejounte's value would have plummeted the second KD asked for a trade. Close call, tbh.

Why? Kd can only play for one team and I am fairly certain that team would not be for Atlanta. As soon as he signed wherever then that Hawk deal would have been back on the table. Probably never would have come off the table to begin with.

[T Park]

I can't wait to see what kind of RC is going be snacking on this Summer League tbh.

He was big on the ice chips in the games I saw last year ��

[T Park]

I can't wait to see what kind of RC is going be snacking on this Summer League tbh.

He was big on the ice chips in the games I saw last year 😂

[slick'81]

Just lose baby. #1 pick next draft is the franchise alterer

[Russ]

Kd can only play for one team and I am fairly certain that team would not be for Atlanta.

Maybe KD is angling to join the Spurs juggernaut.

[slick'81]

Why? Kd can only play for one team and I am fairly certain that team would not be for Atlanta. As soon as he signed wherever then that Hawk deal would have been back on the table. Probably never would have come off the table to begin with.

such a close call,tbh

[SAGirl]

That line you wrote: “ultimately if the Spurs want to return to contention the worst place to be is mediocrity.” So many of us had pointed this out for years, while the “sniff” crew (I hate that pejorative term, but you know who you are defended the team choice of “remaining” compe ive. Bottom line, they realize they aren’t compe ive and haven’t been, and it’s time to do what they should have done sooner. It hurts more now bc Murray is truly a player that the team developed, since he was so raw offensively coming in… and years down the road, the team had to move on from him to truly rebuild. Not his fault. He actually replenished the Spurs coffers on his way out in a trade with a draft day haul. It was always going to hurt to be awful and less talented than most. It wasn’t ever going to be pretty once the big 3 retired and Kawhi asked for that trade… it’s just been a lot longer and the Spurs still had to do what had to be done: start over from scratch.

It hurts now, but I’ll get over it in time. It’s just a little hypothetical to admit now that mediocrity is the worse place to be while defending the prior experience for so long.

[SAGirl]

Also, yea after KD asked to be traded, no way this happens… These es don’t come off every year, even injuries which are by nature unexpected can affect a trade. The Spurs had to grab this and run. It’s actually quite the haul.

[Russ]

These es don’t come off every year,. . .

Don't be so sure.

(I've been around here for a while.)

[objective]

I am dubious that Durant would have impacted Atlanta's offer for Murray.

But anyways, I might have to post my ultimate manifesto on why the trade was not good, or at least, the process was not good. Obviously if the Hawks charter crashes in the Andes on a preseason tour of South America and Trae, Huerter and Collins end up eaten then the unprotected picks become a lot more valuable. Maybe I'll get to it this weekend, or never. Whatever.

[R. DeMurre]

That line you wrote: “ultimately if the Spurs want to return to contention the worst place to be is mediocrity.” So many of us had pointed this out for years, while the “sniff” crew (I hate that pejorative term, but you know who you are defended the team choice of “remaining” compe ive. Bottom line, they realize they aren’t compe ive and haven’t been, and it’s time to do what they should have done sooner. It hurts more now bc Murray is truly a player that the team developed, since he was so raw offensively coming in… and years down the road, the team had to move on from him to truly rebuild. Not his fault. He actually replenished the Spurs coffers on his way out in a trade with a draft day haul. It was always going to hurt to be awful and less talented than most. It wasn’t ever going to be pretty once the big 3 retired and Kawhi asked for that trade… it’s just been a lot longer and the Spurs still had to do what had to be done: start over from scratch.

Agree 100%. It was less than 3 months ago when anyone suggesting the Spurs should secure a lottery pick and avoid the 10th spot/play in game was declared to have a "loser's mentality" by some on this board. Now, less than 100 days later, the full tank, hope for a 25 win season, and potentially a 14% shot at a #1 pick is the Holy Grail of team management for the future. The Spurs were better three years in a row with DeMar DeRozan off the floor vs DeRozan on the floor, but they stuck with him anyway-- that's the frustrating part of this. Oh well, I wanted Sochan, so I'll just root for him & the rest of the young crew to develop and grow, and we'll see what happens in the next few drafts. Giannis won in his 8th season, so if the Spurs beat the odds and land Wembanyama next summer maybe we're looking at a 2032 championship with a veteran 32 year old Devin Vassell as the elder statesman of the team.